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#1 OFFLINE   SitarHero

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 06:13 AM

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Welcome to LANALYSIS, where we get real unhealthy in our obsessions and absolutely revel in it.

This is a project I've been maintaining for a while now--Lana + Analysis...get it? The basic purpose is to relate every one of her songs (that's right, every last one of them) to her known and assumed relationships. Not a stone is left unturned. Privacy is violated. The fans rejoice. Mind you, it’s all pure speculation, but ~this is what makes us stans~

It’s pretty long but an interesting read, if I do say so myself. I hope you enjoy it in all it’s updated glory, and I will continue to update as new information is revealed and new songs come out. I will also be adding pictures, sources, etc. Stay tuned!

Let’s get started!




EARLY RELATIONSHIPS (1985 - ~2005)

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LOCAL ROCKSTARS (~2005 - 2009)
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YOU MADE ME NICE FOR A WHILE (2009 - 2011)
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POST-BREAKTHROUGH (2011+)
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IN THE LAND OF DISCREPANCIES
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ADVANCED LANALYSIS
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IN SUMMARY..

Lingering questions…
- Who the fuck is K?
- Who the fuck is Ray?
- Who the fuck is Bill? Is Bill really K? Does Bill matter at all?
- What significance do cars play? She mentions eight in total (white Corvette, white Pontiac, blue Chevy Nova/Chevrolet, Cadillac convertible, Mercedes, pickup truck, Lamborghini, Bugatti Veyron)
- When was she/who was she with in New York City and New Jersey? Ditto LA? Most mysterious and pressing, her time in the South?
- Did she have a fling with Bradley Soileau?

- Did Chris C. matter enough to her for her to write songs about him?

Assumptions Made:

- Lana was a gogo dancer.
- K is a drug dealer/murderer, dead or on death row.
- Jimmy is her ex-fiancé, addicted to cocaine despite a Wikipedia page stressing how healthy he is, associated with Chevrolets.
- Much of Sirens is about completely different relationships.
- She fucked Bradley.
- Mike controlled her career but their relationship wasn’t associated with anything fucked up like drugs or stripping.



Thanks for reading! I crave both your feedback and theories! This remains a forum collaboration and I don't claim to have the final say on Lanalytical manners.

For the sake of believability, I'm always hunting receipts, and currently:
- The interview where she refers to "Yayo" as the prequel to "Video Games"
- The interview where she describes "Video Games" as dealing with mutual sobriety in a relationship--her and her partner both staying clean.
- The interview where she talks about meeting her boyfriend in rehab and being dazzled by his small-scale celebrity.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 06:16 AM

This thread is back
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 06:23 AM

You had to post when I have to leave, right? :imbeingsarcasticbitch2:
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 06:41 AM

I found this on http://www.songmeani...22107858877556/
And I believe this, it may not be true, but it sounds great, and gave me a clearer explanation on Lana's past (If it is true)
BUT I don't agree that Lana has a child. The child could be refering to a relative. And Lana is the carer of the child
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:34 AM

when did she met M. Mizrahi ?
Put Me in a Movie is from 2007, I thought she met him in 2008/2009 ?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:10 AM

I found this on http://www.songmeani...22107858877556/
And I believe this, it may not be true, but it sounds great, and gave me a clearer explanation on Lana's past (If it is true)
BUT I don't agree that Lana has a child. The child could be refering to a relative. And Lana is the carer of the child

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Gosh that's fucked up. It's would actually be pretty convincing, had she not basically explained the meaning of the video games. What a cool explanation, though.

when did she met M. Mizrahi ?
Put Me in a Movie is from 2007, I thought she met him in 2008/2009 ?


The only definite dates we have, relationship-wise: K was already out of the picture by the time she released Sirens in 2006, and already broken up with Mizrahi by 2009. This opens up to even before 2006 for her to have a relationship with Jimmy, Mike, and even Reeve Carney. There's a chance her relationship with Jimmy could have been over by the time she wrote Put Me in a Movie.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:49 AM

In my opinion Blue Jeans and Born To Die are about Gnecco.....why did she used Bradley in the booth videos? Because of the tattos....Gnecco has a lot of tattos,right ? And because he wasnt "good" for her because of the drugs, etc.... She would die.....

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:41 AM

What strikes me is that:
1. she had a lot of boyfriends (actually not that surprising since she's a beautiful girl) and
2. So many of them were important enough for her to write several songs about them.

There are people who put their career, friends or family first, Lana def is the kind of person that puts her relationship first (This Is What Makes Us Girls). When she's into a relationship she's in at 100% and forget about all the rest. it must be hard for her actual bf to inconsciously compete w/ the others who had such an impact on her life. Damn, if her songwritting was cheesier/less mature and inspired/and country she'll be like Taylor Swift.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:45 AM

My timeline:

K: 1999-2004, 2004 spent in Alabama
Van Wilson: A&R 5 points, 2006 met him at the WLSC 2006, probably a short fling.
Jimmy G: 2007/2008. I think it was also platonic, and more driven from Lana's side. Probably covered the period she was at the trailer park in NJ
Mike M: Met him first for the interview at Arlene's Grocery in February 2009. With him for 2009, and early 2010 (dated by tweets), but I guess he did not want her to pursue her music anymore, and they broke up (lyrics of Afraid really encapsulate their break-up). The guy rebounded quickly to the woman he got married to in October 2010. I think many of her songs deal with this relationship and the break-up.

Reeve Carney, can't place him in the timeline, maybe 2008 after JG.

I don't think Lana has had many relationships. She has said in multiple interviews that in real life she is very quiet, lonely, does not talk much, and therefore continues to feel very strongly about her main relationships (K and MM), because few people really understand her. I think the rings she wears is significant, particularly the one that covers both fingers, because I guess that indicates her eternal feelings for two men. I just hope she can move on at some point, and find someone (I hate thinking of her lonely and alone), although any boyfriend would have to learn to live with the ghosts of two people in the room, K and MM.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:00 PM

@Sam Gho, I think she tries desperately to find someone who'll understand her and fill the emptiness she feels, know who she is and what's going on in her head and heart. As you said she's a shy and lonely person, she need someone else to make her feel enthousiast, excited and "electric". She keeps holding on these memories because of that even though these relationships were far from being perfect or healthy.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

@Sam Gho, I think she tries desperately to find someone who'll understand her and fill the emptiness she feels, know who she is and what's going on in her head and heart. As you said she's a shy and lonely person, she need someone else to make her feel enthousiast, excited and "electric". She keeps holding on these memories because of that even though these relationships were far from being perfect or healthy.


I agree.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:22 PM

I found this on http://www.songmeani...22107858877556/
And I believe this, it may not be true, but it sounds great, and gave me a clearer explanation on Lana's past (If it is true)
BUT I don't agree that Lana has a child. The child could be refering to a relative. And Lana is the carer of the child

TROLOL I have to agree with Sitar, this is fucked-up... but being honest w/ you, I have already had imagined that. I remember seing a picture of her and one of her friend on tumblr, then I saw the pic of her w/ that little girl from NA. I thought, "how cute are they, they have the same smile... Oh imagine she had a child,.. " And then my imagination went wild again. :smiles:
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:42 PM

Discussing public figures like Jimmy Gnecco and Reeve Carney in this manner is one thing, but I have to say that naming regular people she had relationships with and speculating wildly about them makes me uncomfortable, especially when you get some details wrong (i.e. there's no evidence she was more than friends with Chris C.). As a celebrity, it comes with the territory that some of her personal life will be made public. But don't regular people who had relationships with her before she was famous deserve some privacy? I feel this is a far more important matter in respecting privacy than leaks.

This can be a murky issue. I know a lot more information about two of the people talked about here. And there are things that are of legitimate interest to fans. But I'd been sitting on the information for some time because I didn't know how to present it without naming names. However, now that these names have been circulating quite a bit, maybe I might as well share it. :\

I'm curious what people think about the issue in general. Should we start a separate thread to discuss what personal information about Lana and people connected to her we think is appropriate to share?

 

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

Discussing public figures like Jimmy Gnecco and Reeve Carney in this manner is one thing, but I have to say that naming regular people she had relationships with and speculating wildly about them makes me uncomfortable,


Maybe discussing it via PM would be hm, idk.. a bit safer?
There was once this very disturbing piece of info (regardless the fact/fiction) that I shared to only one member, and decided never to post publicly :shrugs:

I understand and respect your decision Sitar, to post this--as I myself felt similar urges to let out what I had in mind and see what other people might think/add to it. I hope this thread fares well.

Should we start a separate thread to discuss what personal information about Lana and people connected to her we think is appropriate to share?


How to implement that, tho? When...

Posted ImageLana Del Rey Online, on 21 September 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

You know what. Do whatever you want. Delete this topic and go wild. I won't be here to watch this forum be shut down. Forget the rules. You have free will and speech and you are entitled speak of your opinions. So forget all this. Just do what you do. You try and help a fanbase survive and all you get is argumentative people and disobedience. I'm not here for it. Officially leaving the forum, and you can do whatever you want. I've tried to help. You're not the ones getting into the trouble. You may have a few things taken away from you like a petty topic on a forum and a radio show which you already have a new link for, but you're not the one getting bunches of emails with tons of questions on how you've got this infomational, and all I can say is this forum because some of you do not give the specific link to the source you got your information from. It takes up my time trying to save your backs and providing the sources for him so you lot do no come across as potential hackers. After me doing this, I am not seen as a potential hacker. So goodbye.

...it has potential of being labeled as such.

..how you've got this infomational..
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:11 PM

Discussing public figures like Jimmy Gnecco and Reeve Carney in this manner is one thing, but I have to say that naming regular people she had relationships with and speculating wildly about them makes me uncomfortable, especially when you get some details wrong (i.e. there's no evidence she was more than friends with Chris C.). As a celebrity, it comes with the territory that some of her personal life will be made public. But don't regular people who had relationships with her before she was famous deserve some privacy? I feel this is a far more important matter in respecting privacy than leaks.


I tend to agree with this. I don't mind if the majority here wants to discuss the topic but I personally feel no need to know these details.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:17 PM

This is insane! I don't really have anything to add at the moment, but your sleuthing is remarkable and it wouldn't surprise me if your a lot of your assumptions/intuitive leaps are correct

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As for whether or not this is an acceptable topic to post, I suppose we'll have to let majority rule. This is surprisingly intimate and you have an incredible amount of detail that I wouldn't have thought anyone would know. Daaaayum. Smart cookie :3

Also, you're hilarious and the commentary is great :3

EDIT: I'm also working on my own version of LANALYSIS, which will be MUCH BETTER. :P Stay tuned for that!
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:18 PM


I agree with evil, I'm interested in the way Lana grew from all her relationships but I really don't want every bits and details of her life/their life being thrown in public place. She kept her mouth shut for a reason and said repeatedly that she wants to protect her family and friends from all that fuss. I think we can discuss it but not in a place where everybody can just capy/paste all the info.
And evil you're a mod now, you can use your "power" :P
Hell, that's a lot of work! Hands up, I give you a standing ovation.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:34 PM

You have too much time on your hands, boo.

Also, I am Bill. DICWB and Trash Magic are about me. Deal with it.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:35 PM

This thing about wether or not to post info is really driving me insane. I want to know everything, but at the same time it's kinda mean. :imbeingsarcasticbitch2:
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:43 PM

And evil you're a mod now, you can use your "power"

While I'm sometimes uncomfortable about personal information people post here (especially namedropping regular people), I'd also feel somewhat uncomfortable using my mod powers this way, although some circumstances may warrant it. I once PMed someone on LDR.FM suggesting they take some information they'd posted down, but I'm not sure if I was right to do so. And I'm not trying to shit on Sitar's post, just trying to foster a discussion over an issue I think we should grapple with. I'd like to see us come to a consensus as a community about what should or shouldn't be posted.

However, I'd be lying if I denied that a part of me likes seeing people name names because then I feel more free to share the information of legitmate interest surrounding these people without having to feel guilty for being the one to spill their names. :teehee:

EDIT: I'm also working on my own version of LANALYSIS, which will be MUCH BETTER. Stay tuned for that!

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