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Posted 23 July 2014 - 02:20 AM

They probably interviewed her in mid-June before her birthday and aren't aware of her real birthdate, ha.

It's probably from May when she tweeted this Noah guy

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:34 AM

How I wish I lived in New York spending the day writing. Maybe I could be friends with Lana. I hate my failed writer life.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:52 AM

 

They way she's looking straight at the camera at 0:55... Ouaaaah!! :deadbanana:

 

 

How I wish I lived in New York spending the day writing. Maybe I could be friends with Lana. I hate my failed writer life.

 

I would think Rio is a great place to write, it looks like a very cool and vibrant city! I bought cheap notebooks to carry in my purse yesterday. I always get inspired at the wrong place, at the wrong time and when I get back home to write it down, it's all forgotten. Even simple ideas. Taking notes with my iphone is bad, I prefer the contact of ink and paper. Gotta write that damn book!!


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:11 AM

I used to sit and watch the sea and write shitty poetry. Now I am trying to write my novel... But my emotional/health problems gave me writer's block.
I'll make it someday, my own books (not short story or poem collections as before).

They way she's looking straight at the camera at 0:55... Ouaaaah!! :deadbananap:



I would think Rio is a great place to write, it looks like a very cool and vibrant city! I bought cheap notebooks to carry in my purse yesterday. I always get inspired at the wrong place, at the wrong time and when I get back home to write it down, it's all forgotten. Even simple ideas. Taking notes with my iphone is bad, I prefer the contact of ink and paper. Gotta write that damn book!!


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:06 AM

I've written a few novels.  Everyone says they are unmarketable :(  But I wrote them for me so...

 

Still, it's pretty much my only dream in life to get published.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 06:06 AM

You know, I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry, but none of them helped me get my record deals. Which is annoying.

Kii


Anyway, Lana needs to stop smoking tbh.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:33 AM

I really do hope Lana finds the kind of people she is looking for.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:35 AM

Do you think a “guilty pleasure” is a real thing?

Yes, but I don’t have many of them musically. I have tons of them in life.

 

Do tell.

Well, smoking is one of them. Sugar, coffee. I must have 13 cups a day. It’s a shame about the health consequences because a lot of great things happen over coffee and a cigarette. A lot of great songs were written.

 

When she says her pussy tastes like Pepsi cola... I have a hard time believing her :creepna:


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:55 AM

That kind of luxe just ain't for us @butterflies

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:27 AM

I saw from the comments that many of you liked this interview. For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her. I’m not sure about anything regarding Lana but I have certain inclinations regarding what I believe about her.

After this interview I’m definitely inclined to believe that she has some real psychological issues and she has no understanding of the consequences of her public persona on her private live and her psychological well-being.

I reacted in the past rather forcefully to opinions that she is a pathological liar because I believed that she’s a dreamer exaggerating things a little bit and she just don’t remember certain things accurately from her past especially regarding the time frames.

Now I believe that she is making up a lot of things because of her psychological problems.

She has some behavior that suggests towards psychological problems. I think that she suffers from low self-esteem in general but it is very interesting to analyze this regarding to two main aspects: her profession (her singing abilities especially) and her sexuality.

1. Her stage presence was always something that baffled me. I’m not fond of Gaga or Beyonce type of stage theatrics but Lana behavior on stage was (and it is) simply strange. She’s obviously shy, she creeps on stage, she is incredible nervous, holding desperately the mic, adjusting the position of the mic-cord, she turns her back to the audience to often to talk with her band, she made a habit out of that smoking shtick, she’s taking selfies for 10 min. with the front row, she never does encores etc. Everything is suggesting that she’s uncomfortable on stage. Her mental state it’s so obvious that when I see one of her live videos I always have an uneasy feeling like something not so good will happen. I observed that her live singing it’s uneven: there is some moments when her voice is pure and pitch perfect and some when she’s clearly messing the things up. I think that as soon as she’s on the stage she has to distinct threads running in her head simultaneously: one that is concentrating on her delivery and one that makes her exaggeratedly self-aware for a performer that is making her to feel that something bad will happen. When this latter thread takes over her voice starts to tremble, she looks miserable and she starts to improvise in a defiant and exaggerated manner which is more often bad than good.

I think that, because she started to sing so late and without proper training, she doubts her own singing abilities. He stated often that she wanted to be mainly a studio singer and she’s uncomfortable on stage.

2. She exaggerates her sexuality mainly through awkward statements in interviews that are contradicted by some of her observed behaviors: the promiscuous girl fantasy. She had a 3 year long relationship with Barrie and I never heard something serious regarding that she cheated on him. She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad. Driving at night on the metro and writing, going to the beach, roller-coasters, and the pictures with her sister and her father hanging out: for a bad baby she’s too much involved with her family, she hangs out too much with her sister which is a very benign being btw. She was involved with WoW players, I know some things about WoW players and they are “bad” online and generally pretty regular people offline.

“I had a long-term relationship for seven years with someone who was the head of a label”. From what I know she had two labels in her life “5 Point Records” and “Interscope-Polydor”. She was signed in 2007 to 5 Point Records. David Nichtern was the head of the label and David Kahne was the producer and I’m pretty certain that she didn't fucked with these guys and certainly she didn't have a 7 year long relationship with any of them. Maybe she was involved with guys from another label or with lesser guys from 5 Point? Not likely, because we would found something about that online. She fucked around random guys on the open mic circuit for record deals? No. It’s more likely that she invented this “adventures” to match the inner expectations towards the character Lana Del Rey that she fantasized about.

“I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. There are two things that are suggesting that she’s not a in full control of her behaviour: first, is the obvious exaggerated-overtness of the statement which is about admitting publicly to promiscuous behavior. Sexuality it’s a private thing and people in the GP reacts strongly towards these type of statements. And of course the “annoyed that the whoring didn't resulted in record deals” will not be perceived as sarcasm by a large proportion of the GP. Second, is her problem understanding the consequence of this statement on her future inner wellbeing. I remember the student from Duke University who wanted to pay for her tuition with porn money which is a reminder that there is no fresh start after you do or say certain things in public.

Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.

I don't know if any of you observed her stiffness when she dances. I don't want to read to much in to it, but this can be a small suggestion that she is not so easy going. Watch her dancing with Mahoney in the SOC video it's totally awkward. Her physicality is more posturing to me than something that would suggest nymphomaniac tendencies.

I think that Lizzy Grant is in the midst of the psychological chaos created by the adoption of the Lana Del Rey character when she took the decision that Lizzy and Lana are the same person. Lana is a fantasy and Lizzy is just morphing strangely under this façade. There are two outcomes possible: She will become Lana Del Rey or she will melt psychologically at some point and we'll all know it.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:43 AM

Amazing photoshoot, love the colors and the concept. And the interview is pretty good.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:48 AM

I dont wanna quote everything you wrote, previous poster, but I agree with you. I definitely think Lana is mentally unstable. She seems textbook Borderline to me, her behavior is almost exactly like that of one of my close friends. Most of the time persons with disorders know there is something wrong but they lack the ability/desire to change. I could write much more but Im on my phone RN.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:27 AM

Sigh. The powers of clairvoyance that some people on this board possess is astounding sometimes. I would have thought we were past the point where sexual behaviour wasn't seen as conflicting with loving being around your family, but apparently we've still got a long way to go, baby. 

 

Here is an alternative explanation for some of the behaviour that doesn't require pretending to have some insight into the mental processes of somebody who you've never met. 

 

Singing, writing, performing, dancing, public relations, mixing with people, taking criticism and being optimistic are all different characteristics or skills. A person can have a few, or all, or none of these, but having one doesn't necessarily mean that you would be expected to have any of the others. To be a pop star, though, you're meant to have all of them, to an extreme degree. Each of us will decide which of them is more important - some people don't think a person should be considered a singer if they can't perform live, others don't care as long as they sound good on record. Some of us don't want to see a singer who can't dance at the same time, others of us don't care. Some of us don't care who a singer treats her fans, others of us really care about how the performer relates to people who like her. But you cannot ascribe a mental iilness to somebody because they are missing a few of these attributes. 

 

Even if Lizzy always wanted to be successful, the fact that there are parts of fame that make her miserable don't make her a hypocrite. They just mean that she couldn't see the future (like most of us can't), and the things that she was looking for in being famous came with a higher price than she expected. It's an age old story, and the only artists who manage to get through it are the ones who find a way to ignore all of the bullshit and focus entirely on the creative process. The rest either burn out or overdose or freak out. I'm hoping that the shift in tone in reporting on Lana - from beautiful puppet to worthwhile songwriter and singer - helps her to make the transition, but at this point, anything can happen. 

 

The Beatles stopped performing live because they couldn't hear themselves on stage, and because nobody cared about what they sounded like. Maybe Lana will decide that the chance to see the smiles on the people in the front row is not worth all of the bullshit, and she'll stop singing live as well. It's 100% true that some of her songs live are better than others, and some of her shows are better than others, and she has a few decisions to make about performing. But from her perspective, the things that she enjoyed doing - that were her way into the industry - had nothing to do with standing in front of 50,000 fans. They were writing, singing and putting together videos, and all of them could be done in a small room with only a few people around. That's an attitude I can relate to.

 

Finally, relationships fall apart for all sorts of reasons, and there is no such thing as the objective truth of why something fucks up. Everybody who has an opinion is either a biased participant, or someone who doesn't know what happened. So when it comes to her time with Barrie and what went wrong, the only reasonable response is to nod and move on, and accept what both of them say about it as their take on it.


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:06 AM

Sigh.


Lana is dat u? :shock:

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:34 AM

Sigh. The powers of clairvoyance that some people on this board possess is astounding sometimes. I would have thought we were past the point where sexual behaviour wasn't seen as conflicting with loving being around your family, but apparently we've still got a long way to go, baby.

Simply there is no consistency in her story, there is no time for all of her invented things to happen at once. I stated my believes and I tried to argue with some facts.

Explain than her idiotic statement that "I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry”. This is not the Beatles era, this is instant fucking news era="Lana is the biggest and fakest whore in the world" era.

I remind you Michael Cassio's line from Othello: "Reputation, reputation, reputation! O, I have lost my reputation! I have lost the immortal part of myself, and what remains is bestial. My reputation, Iago, my reputation!" Maybe she doesn't care about her reputation or she want's this type of reputation. I rather think that this is not the case, but she'll have a difficult time or rather will be nearly impossible to change her image when she wakes up from this nightmare.

I think that you are confusing mental illness with psychological problems.

And please, as far as I know, nowhere in the world the concepts of promiscuity and family go well together, maybe you can explain this more
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:17 AM

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Interesting read, If I understood it correctly is an analogy with Lana's case. The difference is, in my view, that the character's case is confined to a few people discussing it while Lana's case is dissected globally and the pressure won't go away, there is no place to hide from it or to relax yourself. It's exhausting psychologically

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:42 AM

I'm not going to go into your whole post mainly because I don't know Lana personally, so any narrative on her psychological issues really count for naught. I'm not saying she does or she doesn't have issues, but if I'm honest the majority of people I know have their own issues anyway. There are things in your post I both agree and disagree with, however, this point really stuck out to me and I felt the need to reply.

Her alleged promiscuity is just contradicting with her statements about being a good person, helping the community and being with her family.

I don't see how promiscuity (alleged or not) contradicts 'being a good person, helping the community and being with family.' To be honest I think this whole social construct of wholesomeness, particularly where women are involved, is an old fashioned ideology lingering to the present day. Just because someone likes to have sex doesn't make them a bad person, and though it may not fit into a stereotypical paradigm of a 'good, wholesome' person does not in any way detract from your personality in reality. I, for one, know plenty of guys who sleep around, but they have hearts of gold and are basically mummy's boys. They're good, family orientated people, and just because they like to spend time between the sheets doesn't make it not so.

I'm not talking about leading people on and all of that sort of stuff, I'm talking about just the physical act of sex. I know there could be hundreds of reasons why someone chooses to sleep around, including psychological problems like a need for validation, but I also think it can be for a healthy reason, of just enjoying yourself and having fun. You only live once, and your life is made from your choices, so whatever you choose (promiscuity or not), enjoy it. I don't know Lana's own reasons, and the public may react with disgust, but that's simply because the majority are still in line with an old fashioned view.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:52 AM

 
For me, I can explain her promiscuity, at least as it exists now, by just thinking about her the same way I would a male rock superstar. Her libido historically is at least referred to in her pre-fame songs, though you have the option of just thinking about these as character studies. Nobody forces an artistic interpretation on anyone.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 12:10 PM

I think that however insecure she is about herself and being on stage. She is incredibly confident in her sexuality.

It is the part that most people struggle with in their lives and with how other people might view it. But for her it is not a big deal. It is I think the only thing aside from feeling good about her music that she is 100 percent secure in.


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