Apparently I missed the forum rule that you have to write an essay on a topic before responding to anything anyone else has said about it. Good to know. I did give you my opinion, it just didn't take many words to express: "Though I get where the anger is coming from, I don't condone the rioting at all. But neither do I condone the bad actions of the police." Unpacking what I find objectionable in yours takes a few more.
Quite funny how I ended my comment to you by saying that I think you should talk about the topic's subject itself instead of trying to nitpick on how I'm formulating me. Then you went all in to do the exact opposite.
Honestly, I hadn't really intended to weigh in here. I was more interested in listening to views from American POC than filling up space with another white guy's opinion. But I couldn't not respond to some of the things you wrote.
We agree on that.
This doesn't feel like a constructive discussion anymore.
I'm not attempting to "destroy" you. I'm attempting to destroy the arguments you're making and the mindset you're expressing. And I'm absolutely not trying to misconstrue your points. You're either shifting your position or just not expressing yourself well. For example, you gave this "clarification":
It's like your comments are an attempt to "destroy" me as they are aimed towards me, rather than the discuss subject itself. And that you consciously mistake what I'm trying to tell.
We were supposed to infer all that, that specific scenario, from the very vague phrase "sometimes for personal reasons"?
What I tried to say is, if someone hates the police --> shoots some police officer, just because of her profession --> gets arrested. Then the arrested person will may experience some police brutality, perhaps get beaten up in an elevator or something similar once there are no cameras around the place. That's just how it is, regardless of it being right or wrong. If you hate the police, then they may hate you back.
I was merely highlighting the problem with the logic of your statement the way you expressed it by employing it in another context where it would be more obvious to you why it's problematic. Your wording employed exactly the same sort of logic often used to blame rape victims to blame victims of police brutality.
Don't bring rape victims and rape in my statements.
Did you even check the video I linked? You can't say that's really how it happened because the video has no audio. But even if that's mostly accurate, he had his hands in his pockets to begin with. Why do you assume that his hand movements are him reaching for the weapon and refuse to see it from the viewpoint that his movements may be him beginning to comply with a command to put his hands up? But I forgot, police are infallible and never lie or misperceive a situation. And certainly not with a whole two seconds to assess it.
Then you make it sound like I'm supporting a child being shot, but refuse to see it from the viewpoint where the child's response when a police officer aimed at him and yelled "put your hands up in the air", was to walk towards the police officer and reach for a decoy of a weapon around his waist. Did you even check the video you linked?
Maybe I should also mention that my dad has gone through police brutality once and he believes it was due his darker skin & hair colour. Many police officers have said racist things to him. It was quite uncommon with "non-white" people in Sweden back then in the 80's. But I also know for a fact that he has a criminal background and therefore I accept what the police did. My reasoning is that if he weren't a criminal, then I'm sure they wouldn't have done anything to him.
Completely ignoring the role of racism and not examining the reasons why rioters are angry is getting quite tiresome.
Having racism as an excuse for everything regarding darker people without searching for other reasons are getting quite tiresome.
I assure you, as @comeintomybedroom would readily attest, I'm not one of those people.
...I mean, it is not like it would work for white people. I'm sure a lot of people would even deny that you can be racist towards a white person.
Don't take it personally babe, @Evil is a bitch to everyone equally, unlike US police who discriminates black people.