Lust For Life - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[Veinsineon 70,255]

Okay, buckle up, because I've been delving into some of the symbolism of Cherry and 13 Beaches... Why? Because I think that LFL (as an album) deserves a second chance and maybe we can find something interesting in the lyrics.

 

Let me start off by saying that I've tried to support my arguments with some literature (as will become apparent), so please be kind when you disagree with any of this

 

I'd like to argue that the fruit mentioned in Cherry and 13 Beaches have symbolic meanings and that they refer to reflections on fame and Hollywood. 

 

First, let's take a look at the following line of Cherry:

What does she actually mean by this? It's hard to tell, because it doesn't make any sense in the literal sense, but if we look at the symbolic meaning, we get this:

 

 

Now, if we interpret cherries as "the delights of the blessed" and peaches as "the quietness of virtue", we could argue that what Lana is saying is actually:

"I'm blessed to be famous because it gave me a lot. I try to stay out of the public's eye, but paparazzi always seem to find me", i.e. her delights and quietness are ruined.

 

Moreover, her "rose garden dreams" (or how she pictured what it'd be like to be a famous Hollywood star) were not as carefree as she had imagined; the reality is that "it's like smiling with the firing squad against you" and that "you just stay lined up ('cause what can you do?)". With the firing squad possibly referring to paparazzi or camera men at red carpet events. 

 

Next, let's look at 13 Beaches:

13 Beaches seems to be a continuation of the same themes in Cherry - her struggles with fame and Hollywood. Whereas in Cherry her cherries and peaches were completely ruined, in 13 Beaches she seems to be more accepting of being photographed, but we shouldn't forget that her peaches are in fact "dripping".

 

It's as if she was saying first "Leave me alone", and now she says "I still want to be left alone, but alright, sometimes you may go ahead and take your pictures". 

 

 

 

Sorry for the essay, I kinda got lost in my own thought process lol, so it might not seem very coherent.

Makes sense!

[TrashMagiq 55,292]

I remember hearing the studio version of Cherry for the first time and gagging over the 'bitch' and 'fuck's, she did That, she really did.

[Wynwood 19,966]

Okay, buckle up, because I've been delving into some of the symbolism of Cherry and 13 Beaches... Why? Because I think that LFL (as an album) deserves a second chance and maybe we can find something interesting in the lyrics.

 

Let me start off by saying that I've tried to support my arguments with some literature (as will become apparent), so please be kind when you disagree with any of this

 

I'd like to argue that the fruit mentioned in Cherry and 13 Beaches have symbolic meanings and that they refer to reflections on fame and Hollywood. 

 

First, let's take a look at the following line of Cherry:

What does she actually mean by this? It's hard to tell, because it doesn't make any sense in the literal sense, but if we look at the symbolic meaning, we get this:

 

 

Now, if we interpret cherries as "the delights of the blessed" and peaches as "the quietness of virtue", we could argue that what Lana is saying is actually:

"I'm blessed to be famous because it gave me a lot. I try to stay out of the public's eye, but paparazzi always seem to find me", i.e. her delights and quietness are ruined.

 

Moreover, her "rose garden dreams" (or how she pictured what it'd be like to be a famous Hollywood star) were not as carefree as she had imagined; the reality is that "it's like smiling with the firing squad against you" and that "you just stay lined up ('cause what can you do?)". With the firing squad possibly referring to paparazzi or camera men at red carpet events. 

 

Next, let's look at 13 Beaches:

13 Beaches seems to be a continuation of the same themes in Cherry - her struggles with fame and Hollywood. Whereas in Cherry her cherries and peaches were completely ruined, in 13 Beaches she seems to be more accepting of being photographed, but we shouldn't forget that her peaches are in fact "dripping".

 

It's as if she was saying first "Leave me alone", and now she says "I still want to be left alone, but alright, sometimes you may go ahead and take your pictures". 

 

 

 

Sorry for the essay, I kinda got lost in my own thought process lol, so it might not seem very coherent.

 

[ivy 1,693]

 

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[salvatore 21,763]

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he said ur fat and delusional

[Lust 4,031]

I really needed all the pop bangers this album served like LFL, cherry, groupie love, summer bummer, and change!

[ivy 1,693]

he said ur fat and delusional

 

 

I guess some people like to make the same joke twice a day to show the internet that they really are funny   . Great contributions lol

[salvatore 21,763]

 

I guess some people like to make the same joke twice a day to show the internet that they really are funny   . Great contributions lol

 

 

tea @@Wynwood is disgusting.

 

same with @ Loves Me - both fat and abusive!

[Ultra Violet 18,412]

IMHO Groupie Love is the star of this album

 

 

I really needed all the pop bangers this album served like LFL, cherry, groupie love, summer bummer, and change!

I appreciate this comment, but change? wh-a sis?

[poetic jess 2,257]

I had some free time and made this edit. I needed a cover for my LFL "Deluxe Edition". {sorry if it looks crappy lol}

[Blue Velvet Crowbar 966]

Not LFL, 

 

I have uploaded a full song version of Cinnamon on soundcloud.

It's made from the snippets on instagram. 

I would have posted this on the NFR thread, but it isn't working for me.

 

^{{Link below}}

 

 

^{{Link above}}

[Doll Harlow 12,349]

Tomorrow Never Came sounds so nice at "lay lady lay" but then the rest of the song just doesn't match how magical that part is

[Doll Harlow 12,349]

And I wonder if Lana ever listens to BPBP and wonders if something went wrong there like gurl listen to the demo and compare

[Blue Velvet Crowbar 966]

Tomorrow Never Came sounds so nice at "lay lady lay" but then the rest of the song just doesn't match how magical that part is

 

I find a lot of Lana's songs give me different feels at different times.

In Meet me in the pale moonlight - after '' when you gonna ditch that stupid .....'' 

I feel alive

 

No Lana song can make me feel like Meet me in the pale moonlight does

[Psychedelic Pussy 28,783]

Remember the demo snippet of TNC.... wish she had served us that instead of the final

[WildMustang 14,725]

Heroin is still THAT song

[heroindealer 8,087]

Remember the demo snippet of TNC.... wish she had served us that instead of the final

ugh I wish she left the demo v intact

[UltraHeroin 8,801]

Heroin is still THAT song

IKR! In my top 10 Lana songs ever. Got half of my username because of it. Wow, her impact!

[Ultra Violet 18,412]

Tomorrow Never Came sounds so nice at "lay lady lay" but then the rest of the song just doesn't match how magical that part is

I think the song up until the first chorus is that magical. The chorus is so... Boring, and I like Sean's voice but it just isn't magical, that's all.

[bored 7,829]

I think it's safe to say the whole demo version of the album is better than the final.