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Honestly, there's no need to take seriously what Medvedev says, he says this shit at least thrice per year and does nothing + he doesn't have as much power as Putin has. They all have some "nuclear fetishes" and they threat to provoke.
 
In all honesty, there won't be a nuclear war because no one would win from this, neither the West or the East. If Russia decides to nuke a country, it will get the exact same response as soon as possible. Sure, some people say that Putin has nothing to lose but if the world is nuked, he doesn't have no one to show his power again and people in his country would turn against him if Russians get nuked back.
 
After all, the Cold War proved us that no one wants to use nuclear weapons and they're just devices of threat, manipulation and terror.
 
I don't know why my response was so long but that's just what I am hoping for, I don't like any wars and I definitely do not want a nuclear war. Peace.

Agreed; Medvedev is fully off the hinges
Putin has hinges, they're just not to most people's tastes
Russia would cease to exist if they decided to nuke anyone, and Putin and Medvedev know this. It's all bluster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VgJ3NF5A7U
new album later this year

Had no clue that we did not have a thread for these icons yet so I will make one!!
Sohodolls is a English band formed in London in 2003,
Some notable songs from them are Bang Bang Bang Bang, It went viral on Tik Tok in late 2021
https://youtu.be/d4uA3t9AOUw
 
Another song called "Stripper" is iconic for being used in the Gossip Girl scene where Blair Waldorf strips at the Victrola Club
https://youtu.be/J1VEvfuz5vs
 
They started releasing new music again in 2020 after breaking up in 2014, they now have a new song coming out on the 23rd of September called Letter to My Ex 
 
 
 

I don't know how a country album can be fucking brilliant but i'm eager to find out

Ugh I miss them so much. Marina is friends with Kacy who Chuck is also friends with, and they both went to her concert a few weeks ago. From what they posted it seemed like they were near each other. I feel they would’ve had to say hi to each other. I’m hoping 2024 is the year of a Lana and Marina reunion 

I'm really disappointed because, just like most of you guys, I was so confident she was taking home at least one award. I know it's a competition and I don't want Lana to be a victim but this is all so unfair. Everyone was getting their awards, and nothing for Lana? Who was second best selling woman in the world, even more than the people she lost against? Who had one of the most monumental, critically applauded albums of the 2020s? Who didn't stop making the news for her magnetic performances at some of the most important festivals in the world? Who had the most talked-about album of the entire year? 
 
Midnights was the Best Pop Vocal Album, why give it the AOTY too? What Was I Made For won Best Song Written for Visual Media, the category it totally deserved as it was, well, the best song written for visual media of the bunch? How does that song reflect 2023 as Song of the Year, and not A&W with its actually thought-provoking lyrics?
 
Boygenius for Best Alternative Music Album; I know The Record was acclaimed too, but in what world Ocean Blvd wasn't the alternative album of the year? The one that's actaully left-field, deeply conceptual, with multiple sounds, instruments, dynamics and lyrics that actually represent the alternative side of music; topics that aren't talked about, that are feared by most, and not as explored as they should. Why give This Is Why Best Alternative Song, when its parent album won Best Rock Album? Couldn't they, really, give anything to Lana?
 
If this is a popularity contest, yes they all deserved... Miley, SZA and everyone else; but 2023 was undoubtedly Lana's popularity peak, and it only seems to rise. How, seriously how wasn't she awarded for that? What does she have to do to have this level of mainstream recognition? She doesn't need it, of course, as she's a critic darling, a festival darling, a GP darling... everyone loves her. She hasn't reached the tip of the "music industry" iceberg, but does she really need to? Prime TV, the Grammys, the Oscars... maybe her fate really is to be a trailblazer, watch all of her disciples come and go, grab the gold and the applause, but she will remain strong and influential, discussed and forever relevant.
 
I love you Lana, and I love you Ocean Blvd; others are thankful for seeing their favorite artists reach #1 and undeservedly break Grammy records; I personally am thankful for experiencing the music, for being part of this global movement that is Lana Del Rey, driven by her pure talent and timeless songwriting.
 
By the way, she looked breathtaking.
 

I woke up and .... 
 
I don't think I can even bring myself to watch the main show now in retrospect knowing that she doesn't win anything. 
 
Anyway, I'm feeling really really awful and I need to rant, so, here's my own QFTC
 
I think the "music industry" is scared of Lana, because she's one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now and she doesn't owe them anything. Her success has been through her own hard work over decades of persistence. As much as journalists tried to push the industry plant theories during BTD, deep down they all know that she's there, standing among them, because she sang to crowds of just ten people in bars, she wrote and wrote and wrote and pushed and pushed and pushed and when finally she hit the radios, people listened. And people loved her. 

The fact that Lana is the force she is without having a single Grammy, without getting huge radio play, without pandering to the critics, the zeitgeist, the egos that need stroking .. that's what they're all afraid of. Intimidated by. 

I think she's one of the only huge artists of our time who took the "traditional" struggle route (touring tiny jazz bars and local pubs) and went "viral" (on tumblr). She incapsulates both the old and the new way of gaining success. 

Plus, her music, her looks — they're endless homages to icons of the past. There's countless references to literature, movies, singers, poetry, cultural icons, fashion. And yet despite building so much on our collective nostalgia, Lana is authentically herself. Despite what magazines try to push, no Lana fan wonders who she is under her references. Nobody thinks it feels empty. It's such a feat to be able to effortlessly reference the past while influencing the future generations. It's been said time and time again how Lana is the reason that Billie, Olivia, even Taylor make the music they do today. For someone who is blinded by their own fear and hatred about Lana's struggles in the past, her "bad influence," her "inauthenticity," having an artist who is simultaneously able to exist in the past, present and future is the epitome of power ... power they didn't bestow and power they didn't want her to have  
 
She has built a legacy (and DYKTTATUOB was the cementation of that legacy, whether it won or not) that will surpass 99% of the people in the music industry currently ... 
 
And it's been said time and time again but things that appeal (mostly) to women are derided. Any kind of media. I totally get what Lana was saying in QFTC although it wasn't worded well (and this probably won't be either). Nothing has changed, not really. I know Lana said in the Billboard awards that she's glad people feel they can't express themselves now as it didn't feel that way in 2008, but I don't think anyone, Billie Taylor and Olivia included, is singing about the experience of being a woman like Lana is: Just look at A&W ... we still have some way to go before people (mostly MEN) accept that it's just as worthwhile to sing about the experience of SA, alcoholism, suicide ideation, abusive relationships, and family trauma as it is to sing about being powerful and strong as a woman (and you can be those things while singing about those topics that everyone just wants to ignore). It takes courage to sing about these things when so often nobody in your own personal life wants to listen! But singing to millions of people? The vulnerability? Beautiful. There are millions of women (and men) who see the power in that. 

On the same topic, I absolutely hate that some stupid articles before the Grammy's didn't even mention Lana's name once despite her being nominated in 2 major categories, yet mentioned Jack in relation to Lana's work. As much as I am happy for Jack for his win it feels much the same way that he won in part thanks to her artistry while she is barely mentioned in the media coverage, on the carpet ... anywhere. Except by Jack and Taylor themselves (). This might be controversial but it reeks of sexism to me. I just HATE how she is treated almost as if her name is dirty so they just avoid saying mentioning her as if she doesn't even exist. URGH I AM IN SUCH A BAD MOOD 

All of this… and it was really really well written btw. Honestly wish I could share to socials lol  because you lay it out! Fuck the industry and the people who don’t get her honestly. She’s a legend, a true legacy artist, one in a million. There’s nobody like her in our generation and there won’t be again. 

I’m sure the album will be gorgeous like always. I’ve been listening to her for 13 years, that ain’t stopping now, but a country album isn’t something i’ll be necessarily “excited” for. Chemsex at the Gay Club had a country vibe in parts, some of it i liked, some of it was a bit too country for my taste ect. We’ll see. 

in defense of having an opinion, and some thoughts regarding the new album, it's not so serious but felt the need to respond:

- it's perfectly ok to not immediately have a feel for the record when Lana herself hasn't been associated as strongly with the genre. 
- no i won't pretend to immediately fall for the new music, just because it's her, since I personally can't find an immediate connection with the overall genre aside from some gems, and that's perfectly understandable. 
- I have so many Nikki Lane jokes, and multiple pov arguments regarding the discussion, but will keep it respectful, but I won't be shamed or coaxed into feeling a certain way about something I don't know so much about, which, inadvertently is fair, so I'm keeping respectful, but don't appreciate the subtle judgment since it is something foreign to me. 
- it's been a journey of music, and being gay, I'll admit it's harder to appreciate aspects of country music bc of the glorification of certain stereotypes that have prevailed that hasn't ever really been my demographic so can you really blame me? I don't think you should if ever. 
- previous line, that being said, it's completely understandable to express some friction or reluctance. it goes both ways. 
- I'm sure the music'll be golden bc it is Lana. we trust her, I think it's obvious at this point to say that some don't trust the genre so much. and that's perfectly fine, normal even when you think about it. 
- at the end of the day, I do know that the music will shine bc of how she expresses things. 
- dont come for me I'll put my debate hat on, something I rarely give af to do, but really I don't feel the need to express anything else about it. typed this in 5 minutes as a thoughtful response, not a reaction. 

just felt the need to express these to move more freely with an open mind. 

I love Lana, don't appreciate a good amount of the genre, I won't be subtly judged if even, but ultimately, I will be giving this record a chance bc I trust her. I myself, as well as some others expressing reluctance towards the music shift/ change are allowed to feel what they feel and think. it's best to be able to come to our own decisions instead of pretending something isn't bothering them (it can be done in a respectful manner) being able to have space for different opinions is valid and should be common courtesy as long as it's not anything volatile. 
no need for pettiness if anything, thanks. to the other guys reluctant about it, this is partially for you as well. 

it ain't so serious, wrote this in 5 minutes, after reserving much. but felt the need to, to move forward with less judgment on my part 

hm

Ocean Blvd #3
 

Her having to sing the song to herself to remind herself of her astrological signs is peak Lana.

as a huge mazzy stan fan  i doubt it'll sound anything like mazzy star lol

I hope she still talks to or keeps up with Rick in some capacity, they worked together for long on so much. 
 

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I was not expecting to cry as much as I did last night! When she got on stage I immediately started sobbing. How could you not cry when she’s this close? 

Btw,  I went to the concert on the 16th guys, and I still can't believe it, it was quite a trip, I left my house at 4:00 am with my brother, we traveled to another state, we waited like 14 Hours not so comfortable, we met lovely people and in spite of everything, I enjoyed a lot, I had fun. If I had to do it all over again, I would because I wouldn't trade this experience for anything. 
The crowd was crazy, there was pushing and shoving and hellish crowds 2 hours before the concert, and basically your personal space disappeared, but none of that mattered when Lana took the stage, everyone's energy was so powerful and we sang like crazy , Lana looked so happy and fun.
Charlie came out on stage with the Mexican flag at about 6:30 pm, he waved it very enthusiastically and then placed it near the "Bartender" table.
Then Robster came out and greeted everyone.
 
I recorded the whole concert with one hand, while watching the show, so it's not a great recording, my microphone got saturated with all the screaming, but, I got it. 
The intro A&W and Cherry live are fire!!!!
Stand by your Man and Arcadia were very emotional. 
 There was a tall guy in front of me and from time to time I lightly reloaded my phone on his head to record the show, he didn't seem to be bothered  
And my shoe got broken in a wave of big pushes during Blue Jeans. 
 

Ok so I’m a longgggg time lurker first time poster, and I was fortunate enough to travel to rogers to see Lana. I was at the barricade and got to meet her twice ( once before the show and during as well). This woman is the nicest ever to fans. I’ve seriously seen nothing like it. I gave her flowers which she was very appreciative of, she complimented my tattoo, and asked me my name and where I was from. As a full on stan for 10 years this was the best day of my life lol. Also before attending the show I thought the dancers were a little corny and the vocals could have been better, but seeing it in person I was completely wrong. Everything is perfect, even better than when I saw her for the LA to the moon show. Also from the conversation I had with her, these are not the last shows.

she deserves this so much!! 
 
full list here https://pitchfork.com/news/mtv-vmas-2023-nominees-announced-see-the-full-list-here/
 
vote here:
https://www.mtv.com/vma/vote/best-alternative

I listened to Honeymoon, Art Deco and The Blackest Day. That bubbling skype-ringtone type beat in Art Deco's intro and The Blackest Day chorus was something so unearthly, I'm manifesting new unearthly sounds on LDR10

Yes I think you nailed it! I still like all the music they’ve produced but I feel like it could have a little more oomph. To me it’s too compressed sounding, it’s hard to pick out individual instruments and everything blends together. He does nail it sometimes, like with White Dress, Venice Bitch, and A&W, but other times it’s a little bland. Rick, Emile, Paul Epworth, Dan, etc. really brought emotion to the production and it felt more atmospheric which suits her voice very well. 

I really do not want Jack as the main producer for LDR 10.
 
I LOVE NFR and I think his impact on this great album can't be denied. However, I feel like the reason for this is that that album thrives on the newly discovered chemistry between Jack and Lana, they inspired each other a lot and therefore created something exciting and new (similar to what habend with Dan Auerbach for UV).
 
This spark is however missing from a lot of the stuff they did afterwards. You can still hear it on standout tracks like White Dress or A&W - but both of these were tracks Lana and Jack singled out as exciting collaborations themselves.
 
For most of the rest of their work together, it feels more like Lana had hin since she likes him and feels comfortable working with him. But that also meant he gave the "standard Antonoff treatment" to her demos and - at least in my opinion - that leads to a rather bleak and unexciting output.
 
When Lana worked with  Rick as her "comfort zone producer", it still felt like he was giving the songs a much more unique, Lana-specific sound. Jack on the other hand has a temdency of making everything sound alike, with a kinda vague and non-committing quality.