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  1. Posted

    From this song and UV Lana's become an artist with a strong identity, not only an empty pop star like all the others. And this is the reason why i'm started to follow her.

    not really Born To Die her debut established her image as a musician and writer, if it wasn't for the hits that her debut had, she would be the Lana Del Rey that we all know by now.

    100 % agree.

     

    I understand if you are not a fan of the musical style/production. However, the lyrics, if you take the whole album into consideration, are definitely some of the best she has ever written. I also wouldn't call it commercial, because you have to remember that at the time Born To Die was released, there was absolutely nothing like it. This was before artists like Lorde, Halsey etc. were around, and the sound of Born To Die was completely new and unique, meaning that because it wasn't following any trends, it could as well have flopped. I do have to admit, though, that Born To Die is easier to listen to and to "get into" than Ultraviolence or Honeymoon.

    agree, may i reconsider what i said about btd CAUSE BORN TO DIE A A BOP ALBUM ! ;-)

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  3. Posted

    Would you mind elaborating in which way Born To Die was "basic" or "commercial"?

    first of all. hi 

    second, btd was the basic lana because of the lyrics, cliches, pop, bad boy with good girl. but unique vintage imagery and sound.

    third, commercial because her label and lana wanted the album to have heavy promotion and hits so that they would establish and image for Lana Del Rey!, so that in later years as now she would have to to the same ammount of promo because she would already have an image in the mainstream catalogue and a determined public (all of us   :D  :P ) that would always listen to her material no matter what! :)

    fourth, basic and commercial are not bad things btw, they are just the "basics" to establish Lana in the music industry and scene ;)

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  4. Posted

    Hey guys i wanted to make this thread to have a space to share things like reworks, alternative versions, remixes, acapellas and things like that!
    Today i made 2 acoustics versions of "Ultraviolence" and "Brooklyn Baby" and i posted them of youtube!

     

    UV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr7ciJLZh-M

     

    BB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRIXsQUW0bA

     

    IF YOU HAVE ANY FAN MADE MATERIAL OR SOMETHING MADE BY YOU PLEASE SHARE BELOW!

     

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  5. Posted

    Just tellin y'all that if you want to see the commercial and basic (iniatial) side of Lana just go and listen to born to die, don't call yourself a fan if you always expect Lana to drop a :) pop single and be a commercial success, that just not happening unless SHE DECIDES IT BY HERSELF, and please don't go off topic , this thread was to discuss LDR5 not the commercial activity of Ultraviolence or Honeymoon and even comparing them to an album that hasn't been released yet.mariah-shades.gif

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  6. Posted

    What I meant was that the final versions of the tracks were polished to the core and some of them have been re-arranged to fit the album concept (Lolita, TIWMUG). The two I've mentioned obviously had plenty of versions floating around, although I think it's still important to note the production of BTD was very consistent to the point every 5 seconds there are the same samples throughout the whole record, the same tempo of the beat comes through etc. Yo, Haynie :judgingu: You still can achieve consistency using plenty of instruments and different concepts, not necessarily making the whole thing after one fashion.

     

    Although this probably isn't as suprising as I'm trying to make it seem - same stuff probably happened with UV and HM but we didn't get the demos as massively as with BTD. I'm still longing for them.

    I WOULD DIE FOR SOME DEMOS OF UV AND HM  best-of-shade-gif.gif

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  8. Posted

    ^ This, basically.

     

    If an artist is signed to a (major) label, of course the label gets to have a say on what's happening. But considering they let Lana release Ultraviolence and Honeymoon even though they probably would have preferred some kind of BTD 2.0 and, maybe even more importantly, the fact that they let her not do any promo makes me think that she has relatively much freedom and independence.

    Good point!

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  10. Posted · Edited by evilentity
    Edited to remove shouting.

    Hello everybody, my name is Gonzalo, i'm @lanastarboy on instagram, i decided to start this topic because of the weird story of Lana's second LP "ULTRAVIOLENCE" 
    Here is what i have for discussion !:
     
    1) Rolling Stones Interview with Dan Auerbach ( http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/how-lana-del-rey-fought-to-get-her-radical-ultraviolence-lp-released-20140718 )
     
    1.1) 
    "There was a lot of bull:) I'm not used to," Dan Auerbach tells Rolling Stone
     
     "The label says, 'We're not going to give you the budget to extend this session unless we hear something.' And we send them the rough mix and they :) hate it and they hate the way it's mixed. And it's like, 'Thanks, asshole.'… I think Lana put her foot down. Maybe it's normal for her, but it's not normal for me.  Really rubbed me the wrong way.  I got really defensive because I thought it was bull:).
     
    "The story I got told," he continues, "is that they played it for her label person and they said, "We're not putting out this record that you and Dan made unless you meet with the Adele producer. And she said, 'Fine, whatever.' And she was late to the meeting, so while they were waiting, the label guy played what we recorded for the Adele producer and he said, 'This is amazing, I wouldn't do anything to change this.' And here's the kicker: Then all of a sudden, the label guy said, 'Well, yeah, I think it's great, too.'"
     
     
    Del Rey acknowledges a six-week period this past spring when Ultraviolence was in limbo. "I mean, I think there were people they wanted me to work with," she says. "I don't know who they were. When I said I was ready, they were like, 'Are you sure?'" She laughs. "'Because I feel like you could go further.'"
     
     
    "On this album, in my opinion, you didn't want her to try to do something," adds Janick's predecessor, Jimmy Iovine. "I felt she hit a bull's-eye. Everybody's saying to me, 'We need a single,' calling me from Europe. I said, 'You don't need anything.' It's a very coherent body of work, and thought any other conversation was a distraction."
     
     
    Janick and Jimmy Iovine are both Interscope Chiefs and they were the ones who defended Lana against the main label in Europe, also when they said 'We need a single,' they wanted Lana to make a pop hit like in 2012.
     
    2) http://www.nme.com/news/music/lana-del-rey-114-1245121
     
    2.1)
    He adds: “She impressed me every day. There were moments when she was fighting me. I could sense that maybe she didn’t want to have anybody think she wasn’t in control because I’m sure it’s really hard to be a woman in the music business. So we bumped heads a little bit, but at the end of the day we were dancing to the songs.”
     
    3) http://radio.com/2014/06/12/lana-del-rey-interview-maleficent-ultraviolence/
    3.1)
    LDR: Dan said that everything on the record, all the songs have this kind of narco-swing. So whereas the beat and the verses on “West Coast” were really direct, the chorus naturally slipped into this half-time beat. I just remember everyone at the label being like, ‘God, it’s getting slower at the chorus?’ And we were like, yeah!
     
    4) Also years ago there was an image floating around of a music video  that was intended for the UV Era but was scrapped, the music video included the water girls that we have now seen in the MTWBT AND FREAK Music Video, these girls also appeared in Neil Krug's 2014 Photoshoot named "Pale Fire", this photoshoot was allegedly for an upcoming single of the album but in ended up being scrapped off the record.
    Pale-Fire-II---Neil-Krug.jpgPale-Fire-V---Neil-Krug.jpg
    Pale-Fire-VI---Neil-Krug.jpg
     
    5)The original music video for the song "Ultraviolence" was the Freak Music Video that they recycled for the Honeymoon Era, sadly it was rejected because it would be controversial due to the fact that it was a tribute to the Jonestown Massacre, Interscope permitted Lana to recycle the material along the song Freak when there was not a lot of buzz surrounding her image.
     
    6) Scrapped Homemade Video for "West Coast" and "Pretty When You Cry"
     
     
     

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  11. Posted

    'daaark blueee', 'stranger than a stranger'.. if that's lyrical improvement i hope she'll stop improving soon :awkney:

    LOL I FORGOT ABOUT THE TITLE TRACK , PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER HONEYMOON AS PART OF THE ALBUM CAUSE THAT SONG IS LYRICAL TRASH LMAOmimi-shade-gif-1.gif

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  12. Posted

    I don't like Honeymoon as much as her previous records, but it still has some fantastic songs. My favorites would be Music To Watch Boys To, Terrence Loves You, High By The Beach, The Blackest Day and Swan Song.

     

    Regarding videos, promotion etc., I'm honestly just happy it's over and hope that she will try at least a little harder for LDR5.  :facepalm:

     

     

     

    Well I'd rather shake my ass than fall asleep trying to listen to it.  :w8ing:

     

     

     GIRLLLLL YOU BETTA STOP IM TRIGGERED 

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  13. Posted

    tbh i have to say that it is a fact that this was her best record, on lyrical terms she has improved a lot and the sound and ambiance for this record was the  appropriate, the only reason people don't like this one as much as BTD or Uv is because they cannot shake their twink asses like in BTD  or cut their veins like in UV

    the only thing that i can agree with is that the production of the videography was the worst cause they only used recycled material from the UV era.

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  19. Posted

    It's amazing to see that Lana still has such a dedicated fanbase taking in account how little she has done since the UV era.

     

    I don't know if her contract it's up but in my view HM was a pointless album that can be very well defined as a contract filler. I expect her next album to be in the same mold as HM, Lana has a strong esthetic vision but unfortunately little else. She can write 1000 HM songs with Nowels that are pretty and occasionally interesting but they will be easily forgettable and overall boring. She has no commercial power anymore, I predict that she will hardly open in the top ten anywhere in the world and that she will struggle to sell 350k worldwide. She clearly gave up up her pop aspirations, she has a subpar management which is massively scaled down (when Eclipse type of online trolls are leaking your new material...come on!) so I don't expect any promo besides her silly online strategies. I think that she wants to become a quality artist but I don't see that happening and not only because she still has a predominantly negative image in the business in the US but mainly because I don't think that she has the lyrical talent or the live chops necessary to achieve that.

     

    But kudos for her fandom because they are the only reason for a lifeline in her fading career

    i didn't know snakes could write! mariah-shades.gif

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  20. Posted

    i highly doubt this will be her last album, sis

     

    she's still a fairly new artist in the "mainstream". the VG video dropped june 2011- less than 6 years is not a very long time for a major label artist to be in the industry.

    now if britney decided she was dropping her final album this year...i would not be surprised. the sis has been in the game long enough (ESPECIALLY with her kind of image.. youth is fleeting)

     

    lana has a timeless sound and look, and i think she and her music will only get better with age. :oprah3:

    ILYSM I CRIED WHILE I READ ALL OF THAT tumblr_nxmpwudVsr1rou1too1_250.gif

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