BlackoutZone

Hi everyone, thank you so much for collective effort to get my account back!
 
Before I answer anything, I just wanted to say that at the end of the day I am not Lana, I am not in her head, I was not in the room when these songs were made and there is always a tiny bit of chance that I am wrong. Everything I'm revealing is based on (sometimes years of researching) things I listened to, read about or heard from people who worked with her directly. I do find timeliness, demos, drafts etc very fascinating as it gives you some additional cool insight of what was happening behind the scenes so I'll happily join the discussions here

I'm gonna do a whole post on Yes To Heaven, Fine China and Your Girl, but it's gonna be an essay, cause there is a lot to say, especially in relation to the Eclipse leaked files... I need some time to put it together
 
It was the pre-chorus

Nope, pretty much everything that goes pre-major label debut is unknown to me beyond what is known. Maybe I will encourage someone who does know a thing or two to come here one day and talk 
 
hmm Axl Rose Husband!
And as you know Methamphetamines turned into Old Money

I know nothing about this, same with that St. Petersburg soundcheck song. I tried to find out what this was all about, but never reached anything.
What I did learn however is that Lana happens to improvise random things during soundchecks as a form of warm up and I think these might be those cases. But I really don't know

Seems like that's a wrap for now! I think I said everything essential that I wanted to say. Hope this brought some closure to those who were seeking it or that at least you learnt something interesting. It was fun and maybe one day I will come back to talk more, maybe in upcoming years more interesting stuff to talk about will surface as well. Thanks for joining and being all nice and respectful. And remember, Lana's word is always above me or any of us, she is the artist and the visionary and none of us other than her will fully know the truth about all those mysterious things.
 
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She worked quite a bit with Rick for NFR still

Oh I thought that was the version that leaked, that's the one I was talking about that was definitely made in 2016.
 
Either way the difference is that John Fortis is the actual producer of the track anyway so this was something he was able to do. Patrick Warren is not, his mixes are not Lana's or Rick's visions

I don't think anything is ever truly deleted

Seems like that's a wrap for now! I think I said everything essential that I wanted to say. Hope this brought some closure to those who were seeking it or that at least you learnt something interesting. It was fun and maybe one day I will come back to talk more, maybe in upcoming years more interesting stuff to talk about will surface as well. Thanks for joining and being all nice and respectful. And remember, Lana's word is always above me or any of us, she is the artist and the visionary and none of us other than her will fully know the truth about all those mysterious things.
 
Pre-order and stream the amazing Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd, out March 10th!

It's really best to accept that every Lana x Rick song had tons of versions and we will never hear 95% of them 
 
yes

It's not the final, but yes it was always for UV

Hollywood and Angels Forever 

Yes that's something that I personally do myself while sorting stuff in my library.
For example, Lana and Greg would always call MPG just "Money Power Glory", however the Dan demo that leaked was strictly called Money & Power (same with Fuck My Way) so I do have it saved as Money & Power (Demo) to keep it accurate. Keep in my though that sometimes title changes of that sort may just be done to ease communication. I'm sure that every demo/file/mention of Tunnel wasn't called "Did you know that there is a tunnel under ocean blvd v2", they would just do "Tunnel" or "Tunnel Under Ocean Boulevard" etc. That doesn't have to mean the song was called that in its version, it was just faster to type it.
Nope

Never heard of this

No, this thread is something to keep your mind occupied in the wait for the new album since Lana is pretty silent and I won't be revealing anything more for now

Seems like that's a wrap for now! I think I said everything essential that I wanted to say. Hope this brought some closure to those who were seeking it or that at least you learnt something interesting. It was fun and maybe one day I will come back to talk more, maybe in upcoming years more interesting stuff to talk about will surface as well. Thanks for joining and being all nice and respectful. And remember, Lana's word is always above me or any of us, she is the artist and the visionary and none of us other than her will fully know the truth about all those mysterious things.
 
Pre-order and stream the amazing Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd, out March 10th!

The snippet that leaked is some 2018 rework of it that I have no idea about, probably produced by someone else? Apparently the file being sold on that source site was also mostly empty, but in reality its a full Rick produced song from LFL era

La Who Am I To Love You 
 
I never even heard all those LFL outtakes, I just know.. a lot about them

Some people use them interchangeably, but to put it simply - mixing happens when the song is being worked on, it's a part of the process when everything for the song is recorded, but you keep polishing it, levelling the sound and such. Mastering is putting very final adjustments to prepare the song for distribution on various media since they all have their own requirements. Mastering is more of a technical thing and only something required for stuff that is being released.
 
That's why I said the UV Patrick demos are poorly mixed. The vocals are too drowned in the instrumental sometimes, some stems sound too out of place, there is lack of cohesion throughout.

Btw about that, this was rather a fact than a personal opinion. It was a scruffy demo made in a day whilst there are many songs that were being worked on for months in 2016 and ended up being unused

Omg sorry again, I meant White Mustang. Piecing all that info is really tiring, my head is exploding today. I think I will stop at least for now

This is something I'd gladly discuss, but it would be mostly speculations mixed with facts.
 
Rich Lee was commissioned to direct music videos for 2 first singles of LFL - Love and The Next Best American Record. Love was obviously done first and sometime in late 2016/early 2017, before BAR video was recorded, someone must have either hacked or scammed Rich obtaining Love music video as well as reference audio for the BAR music video. This led to both spreading and leaking causing massive drama behind the scenes and ultimately scrapping BAR as a whole. We are "lucky" they only leaked this late, cause who knows if that happened earlier Lana might have never recorded the MV at all.
 
There is however the other side/reason to it that might be even stronger imo. The original TNBAR version is clearly shady and putting a lot of guilt on Barrie for the fall of their relationship. I feel like later at that time she came to realization that she might have been too hard on him - or even more, perhaps they happened to meet/talk and become friends on good terms again. The BAR video was built fully around the lyrics of the demo so when she realized she definitely wouldn't release that song without changing its narrative, the music video must be discarded. Since it was a really good visual that Lana loved and it would be a waste to just scrap it, they reused it for White Mustang. But yes, the full video was ready to be put out for The Next Best American Record.
 
This also might be one of the reasons for other LFL tracklist changes, but I don't know that.
 

Seems like that's a wrap for now! I think I said everything essential that I wanted to say. Hope this brought some closure to those who were seeking it or that at least you learnt something interesting. It was fun and maybe one day I will come back to talk more, maybe in upcoming years more interesting stuff to talk about will surface as well. Thanks for joining and being all nice and respectful. And remember, Lana's word is always above me or any of us, she is the artist and the visionary and none of us other than her will fully know the truth about all those mysterious things.
 
Pre-order and stream the amazing Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd, out March 10th!

Yes, California, whoever leaked that - fucked up

Is it true that the entire chorus of Your Girl is just sung by Patrick Warren and edited to sound like Lana, cause his acapella was incomplete?