Divisive Princess

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

As far as the church denying gay marriage, I think it goes back to what I said before, which is that God loves everyone. He created man as equals and to not accept that is ridiculous because you stop paying attention to the person and only judge them based on their 'sins'. If they wanted to play that card from the Bible (people may not lay with people of the same gender), then they would also have to, in a word, shun people who had sex before marriage or people that got divorced or even men who don't have beards (according to the Old Testament) and you don't see them doing that at all. Those people are accepted into churches without a second thought, so why draw the line at gays? That's just my opinion. 

I personally really like this interview. The reason I think everybody is taken aback by it is because we don't usually see this side of Lana. She always seems really shy and sweet (most of the time) and this is unlike most of her other interviews. I do think that maybe she was in a mood when she answered these questions, but my opinion of her hasn't changed. She can't be EVERYTHING we want her to be. She's her own person. And as far as the not being patriotic comment, I'm an American and I'm not offended at all. I know it might be surprising to hear her say that because of obvious reasons, but just because she's not huge on America doesn't mean she doesn't love her American fans. All my life I've never been a patriotic person and I've wanted to leave America for as long as I can remember and I just don't think people should look down on her for that. That's just my opinion. 

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

I'd like to give my opinion as a religious person. First of all, I am NOT here to shove my religion down anyone's throats or say that you're wrong for loving who you love. That being said, I honestly don't think there's a cure for homosexuality. You are who you are and that's just the way it is. I don't think people choose to be gay don't think there's treatment that can help. From a religious stance, (and I know some of you are probably groaning because talking about religion isn't exactly everyone's choice of conversation, and I know; I try to avoid it with my mom at all costs, but I just feel like people are categorizing religious people and religion as something that it's not as far as homosexuality goes) I think that God made everyone exactly how he wanted them. He created everyone to love one another. Although the Bible says people of the same gender are not to lie together, (first of all that's a very general statement; I daresay not specific enough to be actually talking about gay people, but who knows) he created you just how he wanted you. And another misconception is that God hates gay people, and that I know for a fact is false because he doesn't hate anyone. (Which his followers who call themselves Christians should have that mentality, too. Just sayin'.) 
 
In a nutshell, even though I'm a Christian, I see nothing wrong with homosexuality and I don't think that people should be so quick to pin most of the homophobia on religious people. 
 
P.S- If anyone disagrees with me, that's fine. I don't even care if you say you disagree because I don't mind having a conversation about it. Just don't be mean. And don't slander me for my religion. I'm not here to start an argument, I just wanted to clear the air surrounding some misconceptions about Christians themselves. So....yeah.

CAUGHT

I know I already replied to this thread, but that was before actually reading other people's two cents. That being said, I am SO incredibly sad to see some of Lana's fans bring her down like this. Yes, this was a more open, less careful interview, but that doesn't mean that she's the horrible person that a few of you are making her out to be. I also think that some people are over-analyzing the comment about her and Barrie appreciating the arts or whatever the direct quote was (I haven't read it since yesterday, but my point remains.) because she never once said that she only listened to obscure music that no one's heard of. Of course she's going to love the classics. If they didn't have special qualities about them, they wouldn't be classics! I think what she was getting at was the fact that maybe her and Barrie GET it ('it' being the art and the music, etc.) a little more because they're both obviously very passionate artists and singer/songwriters. Lana and I could listen to the same song, but she'd probably have a different take on it than I would because I'm not an artist. I guess all I'm trying to say is that I'm upset Lana's fans are acting this way and I don't think she was really being pretentious. 

I personally really like this interview. The reason I think everybody is taken aback by it is because we don't usually see this side of Lana. She always seems really shy and sweet (most of the time) and this is unlike most of her other interviews. I do think that maybe she was in a mood when she answered these questions, but my opinion of her hasn't changed. She can't be EVERYTHING we want her to be. She's her own person. And as far as the not being patriotic comment, I'm an American and I'm not offended at all. I know it might be surprising to hear her say that because of obvious reasons, but just because she's not huge on America doesn't mean she doesn't love her American fans. All my life I've never been a patriotic person and I've wanted to leave America for as long as I can remember and I just don't think people should look down on her for that. That's just my opinion. 

I know I already replied to this thread, but that was before actually reading other people's two cents. That being said, I am SO incredibly sad to see some of Lana's fans bring her down like this. Yes, this was a more open, less careful interview, but that doesn't mean that she's the horrible person that a few of you are making her out to be. I also think that some people are over-analyzing the comment about her and Barrie appreciating the arts or whatever the direct quote was (I haven't read it since yesterday, but my point remains.) because she never once said that she only listened to obscure music that no one's heard of. Of course she's going to love the classics. If they didn't have special qualities about them, they wouldn't be classics! I think what she was getting at was the fact that maybe her and Barrie GET it ('it' being the art and the music, etc.) a little more because they're both obviously very passionate artists and singer/songwriters. Lana and I could listen to the same song, but she'd probably have a different take on it than I would because I'm not an artist. I guess all I'm trying to say is that I'm upset Lana's fans are acting this way and I don't think she was really being pretentious. 

I know I already replied to this thread, but that was before actually reading other people's two cents. That being said, I am SO incredibly sad to see some of Lana's fans bring her down like this. Yes, this was a more open, less careful interview, but that doesn't mean that she's the horrible person that a few of you are making her out to be. I also think that some people are over-analyzing the comment about her and Barrie appreciating the arts or whatever the direct quote was (I haven't read it since yesterday, but my point remains.) because she never once said that she only listened to obscure music that no one's heard of. Of course she's going to love the classics. If they didn't have special qualities about them, they wouldn't be classics! I think what she was getting at was the fact that maybe her and Barrie GET it ('it' being the art and the music, etc.) a little more because they're both obviously very passionate artists and singer/songwriters. Lana and I could listen to the same song, but she'd probably have a different take on it than I would because I'm not an artist. I guess all I'm trying to say is that I'm upset Lana's fans are acting this way and I don't think she was really being pretentious. 

Honestly, I never expected this interview would cause such a strong reaction. I haven't read all pages of this thread, so I apologise in advance if I say something that has been stated before. Please don't feel offended or personally addressed when I indirectly quote any of you... it's just kind of inspired my train of thought.
 
To me, it seemed like she really needed to get some things off her chest. Although the interviewer didn't ask her any provocative and insensitive questions, I got the impression that she felt the need to set the record straight on some things. I have read some opinions on here saying that she's obviously lying or telling half-truths but personally, I don't think that's the case. I think she has been very open in this interview and seemed genuinely interested in being understood. I have seen people say that she denying things that have been proven to be right. Is that really the case? Because I don't think so. Nothing is really cleared up about her past. There's a cluster of tiny bits of information from here and there that us fans and the media have tried to put together, but who besides Lana herself knows if that is 100% accurate (nice keyword, coming to this a paragraph later)?
 
I feel like she's constantly struggling to define her public image. @@Monicker and @ discussed her apparent "personality disorder" and I agree that she seems quite bipolar at times. In opposite to journalists claiming that she's well in charge and extremely controlling of everything, I believe that she is very insecure and extremely overwhelmed with the challenge of being a celebrity figure. I see Lana Del Rey, the enigmatic and beautiful artist, Lana Del Rey, the good-hearted and loving person that's all sweet with her fans [insert infamous laugh here], Lana Del Rey, the shy and modest private person, and then I see a few other fragments here and there. I am totally unable to put all the pieces together. I sometimes get the impression that she is just as lost like we are when it comes to her, and that she therefore tries to carve her past, her present and future into the oh-so dramatic "work of art." 
 
All those contradictions in interviews, be it print, audio or video, kind of reflect that struggle of hers, and I am pretty sure that she's far away from coming to terms with herself. I am convinced that all those inaccuracies and thereby emerging misconceptions/interpretations (mine's probably just as wrong here) do eat her up and pretty much force her to constantly change details about things she's already talked about. Do I even make sense at this point? So, I see why many people get upset over this interview.
 
I think this interview marks a turning point of her. That, however, remains to be seen... All these assumptions and speculations on my part are obviously based on my understanding of the interview. I just got home from today's Pragmatics course (part of English Linguistics, which I study) so I was in the mood for a little pragmatical conversation analysis. Fair enough, but I'd have to see a taping of this interview, or at least hear a recording of it, in order to be able to judge properly. 
 
 

I personally really like this interview. The reason I think everybody is taken aback by it is because we don't usually see this side of Lana. She always seems really shy and sweet (most of the time) and this is unlike most of her other interviews. I do think that maybe she was in a mood when she answered these questions, but my opinion of her hasn't changed. She can't be EVERYTHING we want her to be. She's her own person. And as far as the not being patriotic comment, I'm an American and I'm not offended at all. I know it might be surprising to hear her say that because of obvious reasons, but just because she's not huge on America doesn't mean she doesn't love her American fans. All my life I've never been a patriotic person and I've wanted to leave America for as long as I can remember and I just don't think people should look down on her for that. That's just my opinion. 

I don't know why it's becoming "worrisome" that Lana appears to have a multi-dimensional personality. While I love when Lana's humble and sweet, interviews like this are delicious to the brain because it's fresh. It's human. It's what a majority of the media asked for when they said she was just an emotionless doll.

I don't see much of a different Lana, I've read a few similar interviews from a few months back, so I'm not sure what is really the problem with some of her responses. I laughed with her, I took humor out of a lot of her cynical responses. I don't know, I read this a lot differently than it seems others have. Everything just seemed very casual and facetiously "uppity" to me, while also keeping the "I don't give a fuck" rather real and clear.

That's all I see here, just someone with substance whose feelings are raw and uninhibited. Which is as they should be. I don't think it's her growing an ego, I think it's just her getting her backbone back and being able to articulate her feelings fearlessly without feeling like she owes the world someone sweet and lily-livered. Sorry, I'll take a Lana who can be humble some times while giving the critics a clear middle finger while she spills salt in their wounds with a smug smirk on the occasion. She may be talking about how it's affected her, but if you look at where she is now compared to what a lot of articles and reviews had to say about her, all of it sounds very "Look who's laughing now?"

Even when she says that she is disconnected from other artists. I don't think there's anything uppity or egotistical about that. So many artists have had the same answer, she's no exception. You do get to that point as an artist that you start feeling like you identify more with yourself and your experiences than you do the experiences of other artists and the work they did based on those experiences. She's growing self-sufficient as an artist. And she sees that other artists just aren't doing the same thing.

I don't know, I didn't grab anything worth breaking a sweat over. She's complex and sometimes her feelings are conflicting, that says a lot more than most artists and human beings. She has substance, it just isn't always the sweet, soft-spoken kind. And I like it that way. She's fallen in shit and walked out in gold so many times, sometimes modesty just isn't warranted. It especially isn't warranted when you've taken every article and review about you to the chin so many times. Lana should be entitled to saying "Fuck them, I know what I do and I do it great." There isn't enough of that. Right away so many people chalk it up to having an inflated ego.

It can never be just being secure in your craft, loving what you do and knowing that you do it well; I mean, who does that? You've got to be an idiot if you don't stay on the ground long enough to let everyone else throw a few extra kicks on you before sticking their thumb in the air like they're Caesar, like their opinion of your talent is all that can validate your existence or worth as an artist. (CUE THE EYEROLL)
 
... Get real. Every time an artist finally starts being more self-assertive and fending for themselves and all the time they invested into their work, right away no one wants it anymore. I'm sick of insecure artists.

And this isn't to anyone here, this is just a random rant, I'm just growing as tired of the "Where's Lana gone?" kind of responses as I've gotten of what most of the general public and the media in America has had to say about her like as if they have not let a single talented soul slip through their fingers in the past decade. Lana hasn't gone anywhere, she's just not cherry-picking what thoughts she wants to showcase for her interviews. And I fucking praise that.

 

Guys, I think that you're overreacting.

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I don't really pay attention to Lana haters. I like her and that's all that matters to me. But in the second video, the guy didn't really bother me at all. He was trying to be entertaining with his opinion, but in the first video, the people really bothered me. They made themselves look like idiots. 

These are really good!

I find him really attractive and that's not even biased. He could get it

I find him really attractive and that's not even biased. He could get it

Can you please, please, PLEASE make an inside booklet for AKA that has photos and lyrics in it? I would love you so much. I may even pay you in Trident layers.