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  1. Mariann liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I don't mean that people shouldn't be allowed to be inspired by their own heritage. That makes for great art, too --- look at Lana's Americana obsession! Instead, I was taking issue with the stance that they should be limited to their own cultures when finding artistic inspiration, something that is quickly becoming impossible as the world globalizes.
     
    For example, when a Japanese singer decides to make an R&B record, isn't that technically "cultural appropriation?" Hardly anyone would say so (I think), but that's where this line of thinking eventually ends up. So much of art is cultural theft, and I'm personally against telling people what "should" or "shouldn't" be used in art just because it may not be considered politically correct by everyone.
     
    Besides, things like caricatures and stereotypes are far more damaging than someone from one culture borrowing from another because they find beauty in it, as Lana has done here. This creates a positive association, not a negative one.
  2. lola liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Your Lana Collection   
    This is really disturbing, actually. Kudos to you for rising above it.
     
    PS) I would totally buy you a copy of the Paradise Edition if I knew there was no way it could get you in trouble.
  3. Mommy's Mercedes liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I don't mean that people shouldn't be allowed to be inspired by their own heritage. That makes for great art, too --- look at Lana's Americana obsession! Instead, I was taking issue with the stance that they should be limited to their own cultures when finding artistic inspiration, something that is quickly becoming impossible as the world globalizes.
     
    For example, when a Japanese singer decides to make an R&B record, isn't that technically "cultural appropriation?" Hardly anyone would say so (I think), but that's where this line of thinking eventually ends up. So much of art is cultural theft, and I'm personally against telling people what "should" or "shouldn't" be used in art just because it may not be considered politically correct by everyone.
     
    Besides, things like caricatures and stereotypes are far more damaging than someone from one culture borrowing from another because they find beauty in it, as Lana has done here. This creates a positive association, not a negative one.
  4. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Charli XCX   
    Watching her iTunes Festival performance, and I'm officially #TeamCharli'sRidiculousDancingWhenSheSingsLive.
  5. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by ednafrau in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    perhaps i'm wrong, but i interpreted that fluorine meant that this type of appropriation that strips things of their true meaning is rampant in this tumblr day and age, not that it's OK for it to be so. it's fundamental that we question everything and not accept the status quo and and just give up and shrug and think "that's just how things are". no way! this is a great discussion because it helped a lot of people transcend their individual, possibly uninformed perspective on this and other matters. lana herself has appropriated images just because they're beautiful to her and by changing their context gives them a new "artistic" connotation. her glamorization of the mob is terrible, for example, when you think of the people who are subjected to the tiranny of the mafia in italy (and worldwide). i think it's worthwile to debate and give things real thought. that's what i love about this forum: through themes that stem from lana-related discussions, everyone reflects on important issues and shares their views and in that, we are mutually enriched by other's outlooks and personal experiences and sometimes reconsider previous stances. hopefully all of this can lead to broadening our horizons and transcending the limitations of our geographical and mental locations
     
  6. liam liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I don't mean that people shouldn't be allowed to be inspired by their own heritage. That makes for great art, too --- look at Lana's Americana obsession! Instead, I was taking issue with the stance that they should be limited to their own cultures when finding artistic inspiration, something that is quickly becoming impossible as the world globalizes.
     
    For example, when a Japanese singer decides to make an R&B record, isn't that technically "cultural appropriation?" Hardly anyone would say so (I think), but that's where this line of thinking eventually ends up. So much of art is cultural theft, and I'm personally against telling people what "should" or "shouldn't" be used in art just because it may not be considered politically correct by everyone.
     
    Besides, things like caricatures and stereotypes are far more damaging than someone from one culture borrowing from another because they find beauty in it, as Lana has done here. This creates a positive association, not a negative one.
  7. Myriam liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I don't mean that people shouldn't be allowed to be inspired by their own heritage. That makes for great art, too --- look at Lana's Americana obsession! Instead, I was taking issue with the stance that they should be limited to their own cultures when finding artistic inspiration, something that is quickly becoming impossible as the world globalizes.
     
    For example, when a Japanese singer decides to make an R&B record, isn't that technically "cultural appropriation?" Hardly anyone would say so (I think), but that's where this line of thinking eventually ends up. So much of art is cultural theft, and I'm personally against telling people what "should" or "shouldn't" be used in art just because it may not be considered politically correct by everyone.
     
    Besides, things like caricatures and stereotypes are far more damaging than someone from one culture borrowing from another because they find beauty in it, as Lana has done here. This creates a positive association, not a negative one.
  8. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by NamiraWilhelm in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I agree, though its sad. I'd much rather multiculturism work so we can retain individual cultures but its clear it just doesn't, integration seems the only way... the alternative is people learning to stfu, but given what we see now and in thousands of years of history, its a lost cause.
  9. Mommy's Mercedes liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I knew those bored/pressed social justice majors on Twitter and Tumblr would go after her for wearing that. Most of them aren't even from the groups they claim to get offended on behalf of, which makes them super tiring IMO.
     
    I'm glad she's able to defend herself by explaining that it has personal significance to her, but those types need to realize that individualized "culture" is dead in our globalized society and the future is just one big blender. All modern art is appropriation, especially in the post-internet age.
  10. NamiraWilhelm liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Ride Headdress Controversey   
    I knew those bored/pressed social justice majors on Twitter and Tumblr would go after her for wearing that. Most of them aren't even from the groups they claim to get offended on behalf of, which makes them super tiring IMO.
     
    I'm glad she's able to defend herself by explaining that it has personal significance to her, but those types need to realize that individualized "culture" is dead in our globalized society and the future is just one big blender. All modern art is appropriation, especially in the post-internet age.
  11. Monicker liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in RIDE MONOLOGUE   
    It's a bit of a cheesecake, but it's also pretty effective and strangely moving. In other words, it's why I love Lana.
  12. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by Born To Die in Charli XCX   

  13. ednafrau liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Grimes   
    Grimes
     
    I saw her live at the beginning of the year, and she rocked it despite being plagued by technical problems the whole time. I screamed so loud when she started playing "Nightmusic" (my favorite song by her) as the encore!
  14. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by evilentity in Paradise - Pre-Release Thread   
    The still used for the stereo mix YouTube video makes me wonder what auto-tuned animal noises Emile Haynie would have put on an album entitled Pet Sounds. Or imagine "Good Vibrations" with auto-tuned loon instead of an Electro-Theremin.
     
    The mono mix brings back memories of when I first fell in love with pop music during my oldies phase in grade school. After I'd go to bed, I'd turn on my crappy alarm clock radio just loud enough to hear it well and just quiet enough to avoid my parents' detection. I'd listen late into the night, marking off songs I'd heard on a Top 1000 Oldies list printed on an advert in the local paper for the oldies station, checking them off one by one by the light of a flashlight hidden under my pillow. Ah, memories...
  15. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by Coney Island King in Paradise - Pre-Release Thread   
    I'm a big fan of cohesive albums, they feel complete and tell a story to me. Varied albums always get old much faster for me.
  16. Mileena liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Crystal Castles   
    You're not --- I love them too! "CC II" was one of my favorite albums of 2010, and I can't wait for the new one.
     
    "Celestica" is so awesome, BTW. Have you heard the story behind it? It makes the track even more haunting.
  17. Fluorine liked a post in a topic by Sitar in Gogo Dancer   
    I will forever vouch for "Tupac's sweetheart".
  18. pauli liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in Paradise - Pre-Release Thread   
    The cover looks great, and there's a few more new songs than I expected there to be. Can't wait!
     
    PS) Yayo?! Talk about unexpected!
  19. DOPE liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in What's Your Favourite Song Off Ldr Aka Lg?   
    I'm really drawn to "For K Part 2." That little clarinet(?) sample adds so much creepy atmosphere.
  20. Hello Heaven liked a post in a topic by Fluorine in What's Your Favourite Song Off Ldr Aka Lg?   
    I'm really drawn to "For K Part 2." That little clarinet(?) sample adds so much creepy atmosphere.
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