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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Ultradealerence in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Having heard violet, I caught myself thinking. These poems are written some time either one year or two or I don’t know when. We’re left waiting the next project, that is behind iron gates. And now, I’m thinking, does really this enlightenment or spiritual path she’s following, really affected who she really is? Or she just wants to evolve this persona she’s following in her career goal? I’m waiting - impatiently, tbh- for COCC so I can understand more about what’s going on her mind right now.
Edit: left waiting the physical hard copy that has more poems and then the behind iron gates
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ginjoints liked a post in a topic by BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I was just listening to JoJo's "Take Me Home" cover and I now need to hear Lana cover this song . Maybe not on COCC but.... at some point
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Log Lana in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
So... next week is the week, right?
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Lustformoney in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I think that Tiktok was lana reciting Tulsa jesus freak white hot forever (from the hardcover- it has 20 more poems). Nothing to do with album. They put instrumental over it because cat fucked it up
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Make me your Dream Life in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
this has been the best pre release so far imo
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by DeluluKing in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
Yes. It's a beautiful month. Now you can leave.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Beauty King in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
"White Hot Forever" isn't a phrase that has any intrinsic meaning in a cultural context. An object being "white hot" implies that it's under extreme heat, which can't be maintained for long without continued reheating. Keeping something "white hot" for a long time (or even "forever") would be extremely difficult and intense.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Vanilla Icy in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
why speculate that the album won't come when SHE announced it? that just takes the fun out of pre-release...
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by chemtrailsovertrailerpark in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
To add to my previous post, I feel that the poem seems to be her pleading with LA to understand, respect, and accept her so she can finally feel at peace and at home there. She seems to express both the worthiness and unworthiness about both herself and LA. She softly demands for her truth to be heard, vents and defends about various experiences and characteristics, expresses qualities about herself and what she can offer, as well as what they do and don't have in common in a way that provokes a sense of compatibility between them and her utter desperation for everything to work out there. "Can I come home now?" is not her asking if she can go to her literal house, as she continues to wish to go home even after telling the story of her Hancock Park home which obviously didn't feel safe or comforting.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Terrence Loves Me in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
Here she goes again promoting everyone else but herself
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by clementines in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I made a lil quick cover idea?
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by LosAlamos in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
The irony of a critic writing about the poet's job being telling people not just about themselves, but the world too, and then failing to see that Lana did *just that*. I am not an american, but I, too, am exhausted from viewing my life as a fulfilment of a social or professional role only, and wonder what is its meaning beyond that - and dabbling in astrology and mythology and sort of earthy metaphysics of everyday to counterbalance the invasive presence of late stage capitalism in my personal life. Also, ever since the let's call them center left middle class circles discovered socialist theory the spaces I occupy have become insufferable. Not them "educating" a minority on the injusticies of the system we live in. It feels like they are doing to allyship what they did to feminism... There is so much money to be made in teaching people how to be "better allies" or, you know, "their gorgeous most unique selves"... So, yeah, I, too, am slowly gravitating to what feels like a radical notion of believing in the good in me, in trusting my self, in being able to see someone else's humanity without outside input and control, and arriving at my own conclusions. And I'm not even touching on the dark matters Lana explored in "Violet..." - which are her personal experiences, but, once again, they resonate with so many people...
Then again, the way this critic drops "camp" and "satire" and "americana" left and right in her review reads like she first learned about camp in relation to last year's MET gala, and first learned about Lana in relation to NFR!'s universal critical acclaim.
There goes my first post (hi everyone!), and I really planned to write a detailed and thought-out review of "Violet..." for it, but eh not in this fandom
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by MargaretThatcher in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
Lana should also have the woodsman in one of her videos too!! “Gotta Light? Gotta Light?”
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by lamms in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
So I talked in the VBBOTG thread about how Bare Feet On Linoleum reminds me of Twin Peaks and that got me to think about some places there. While the The Great Northern Hotel isn't a country club, it does have the aesthetic of one:
My point being, that this is hopefully the Lynchesque era. I want her to keep the sound and atmosphere from Bare Feet On Linoleum. I want to continue to be sucked in this dream world, that is inspired by Twin Peaks, but shaped by Lana.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Lustrouslines in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I relate to Lana a fuck ton. Personally, my mother decided to give me up to my dad and that has left me a bit traumatized throughout my life. Lana felt like her mother abandoned her by sending her to boarding school. When Lana pleads about wanting to be a mother I understand every point, because when you grow up without a mother (for me & i’m assuming for Lana) you want to change the dynamic and not have to repeat the same curse for your own children. You want to be there and until you’re able to resolve and give the entirety of your love to a child that you wish was you, you will feel contempt.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by DCooper in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I wonder how much the project has changed and evolved since she originally had it planned for release before NFR. After listening so many times, it really does feel like it was meant to come after NFR.
Moments like "stupid apartment complex" wouldn't be as special without Mariner's, and the return to Sylvia Plath in Bare Feet on Linoleum is even more powerful after Hope.
What she says about people who feed off of paradise seems like an introduction to themes she will explore in Chemtrails over the Country Club.
Also, the super stressful ending doesn't sound like it would be leading into something like NFR. Now I expect the new album to be a lot darker than I was originally thinking. As she says, she's gone scorched earth and choosing to end on a note this dark makes me think the project is going to be a little more unhinged.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by IanadeIrey in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Just thought I'd share the tracklist I made that includes all 14 tracks of both Violet and NFR! I kept NFR's original tracklist in order as I felt it flowed better with each poem as an interlude between each song. Each poem I feel at least generally matches a song on NFR all based on mood and tone, if not perfectly. Each poem prefaces its sister song.
Hope you enjoy if you use! <3
1. Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass
2. Norman Fucking Rockwell
3. SportCruiser
4. Mariners Apartment Complex
5. The Land of 1,000 Fires
6. Venice Bitch
7. Salamander
8. Fuck It I Love You
9. Tessa DiPietro
10. Doin' Time
11. What Happened When I Left You
12. Love Song
13. Never to Heaven
14. Cinnamon Girl
15. Past the Bushes Cypress Thriving
16. How to Disappear
17. LA Who Am I To Love You
18. California
19. My Bedroom is a Sacred Place Now - There Are Children At the Foot of My Bed
20. The Next Best American Record
21. Paradise is Very Fragile
22. The Greatest
23. Quiet Waiter - Blue Forever
24. Bartender
25. Happy
26. Happiness is a Butterfly
27. Bare Feet on Linoleum
28. Hope is a Dangerous Thing for a Woman Like Me to Have - But I Have it
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Poor Stacy in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Sorry to sound slightly hyperbolic, but this poetry album genuinely captures Lana's essence to me. I think all of her albums are TRUE to her in some way, but I really... hear her in this one. The weirdness of her personality is allowed to fully shine through that we once heard in some of her earlier, unreleased work. Don't get me wrong, compared to all the other girls out there, everything Lana does is weird, but the actual, real eccentricity of her personality is on display here. Paired with the slightly ominous, atmospheric background music...
Not everyone's going to love it or get it, but they're not who it was made for. It truly is an incredible piece of work, and I hope she continues to give zero fucks with Chemtrails, because uncompromising Lana is where it's at.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by #glimmeringdarling in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Now as much as I admire an Individual with an honest opinion, I find that you didn’t listen to these words in the way they were meant to be perceived. Who are you to say what poetry is when poetry is art and art is limitless expressions. You simply cannot determine what is someone else’s art especially when it is a raw, honest, authentic body of work. I’ll have you know many of these poems aren’t about a man but about Lana herself and those pieces of her past that once controlled her every thought. To move forward constantly in the rough patches life brings in the name of self realization is beautiful and many people will never truly do so- however the way Lana has done this is her very own way of coping. I don’t expect you to agree with everything she’s saying but this is a huge leap for the woman and I am very proud. Maybe try giving it another listen with your mind wide open, eyes shut, and lips sealed- remembering this is a walk through an artists mind, someone who’s been damaged and deranged her whole life ..
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by DCooper in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
In one poem she mentions watercolours of orange trees with snakes running through them, so I think the cover is a metaphor for simple things that look peaceful and beautiful but when you look closely there is darkness hiding.
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by IanadeIrey in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
I think the most obvious parallels between NFR and Violet are as follows:
SportCruiser and Mariners Apartment Complex
Past the Bushes Cypress Thriving and How to Disappear
Never to Heaven and Cinnamon Girl
Paradise Is Very Fragile and The Greatest
Bare Feet on Linoleum and Hope is a Dangerous Thing for a Woman Like Me to Have - But I Have it
More of a reach, but I also think we could match Quiet Waiter-Blue Forever with Love Song and more closely to Bartender for the romantic moods (thanks @@GeminiLanaFan for this <3) and of course the vehicle themes.
and The Land of 1000 Fires and Venice Bitch for their textured, layered, and rawer presentation and self-actualizing narratives juxtaposed with love.
Maybe Happy and Happiness is a Butterfly for obvious reasons - potentially Lana was exploring the way she both lets happiness alight upon her and chases it, respectively.
I love this project so much. <3
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by Trash Magic in "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Every move she continues to make sets her farther apart from her contemporaries. Who else could pull this off?
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by mkultraviolence in Paradise is Very Fragile
5150 line hits a bit too close 2 home lolll, I like this one though. feels like she's either finally understanding or finally showing that she understands that her little aesthetic was a dream. "her" America was a dream. paradise is coming crashing down, it is literally burning to the ground for her. where is she to go, an orphan without a home? an orphan without the strong redwood trees to stabilize her. an orphan with an ocean that was once a place of peace, littered with trash. her world is falling apart. the curtain is pushed back, the blindfold is off. she has to wake up to what is happening and what has been happening and what she has been ignorant to. beautiful poem
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BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou liked a post in a topic by MargaretThatcher in Paradise is Very Fragile
So this is the ultimate rebuttal of everything America has become under Trump. We have a President who denies climate change and does not even try to unite the country.
Lana sees America has being fragile. We think of our nation as strong, but we are only one incompetent leader away from being a mess which is certainly the case now.
Lana sees what is really going on. She can speak out about it but if she doesn’t then Trump prevails plus Lana ends up in the psychiatric ward. Kind of reminds me of when Lana called out Kanye for backing Trump. She said that a Trump winning was a loss for the country but active support for him was a loss for the culture.
Lana believes in an America that lives up to its promise.
Then there are the biblical references about Adam and Eve; when we take and take, we destroy the paradise that we can have.
All in all, Lana is challenging Trump’s populism and this culture of greed that has been holding society back.