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  1. Crimson and Clover liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Morricone - Full song (Fan Edit)   
    @mods @@admin can you move this to the fan made audio section to prevent heart attacks.
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  3. knives liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I understand this too - and the reverse also; just because I'm gay doesn't mean I'm instantly a fan of Marina, L. Gaga, Kesha etc (I like songs from each but overall don't consider myself a fan).
     
    This is a forum. I am not generalising, I'm asking why people personally experience this. 
     
    Great, yes you're totally right. I suppose I should rephrase some of the things I first posted - I suppose I am asking two questions:
    Why do fans (gay or otherwise) personally enjoy Lana del Rey? Why is the stereotype of a Lana del Rey fan a gay male? See below for examples:  
     
     

  4. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by Tristesse in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    Are we sure though ? I agree the majority of her louder fans on social networks are LGBT+ . But are they a majority of her fans ? 
    I don't know for you all guys but I am absolutely silent on social networks. My friends know I like Lana but that's it + my best friend (male) is a fan too, is straight, and does not tell the world about it. 
  5. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by sparklrtrailrheaven in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    You make a good point! So, since I *don't* know the demographics of the fandom, I'll say that gays are often a more vocal or open majority. 
     
    (Also, I can't find it now, but there was a demographics survey conducted on the forum a couple years back, which would be super interesting to take a second look at now!!)
  6. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by evilentity in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    This forum is run by one!
  7. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by sparklrtrailrheaven in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I agree that generalizations can be damaging, but to refer back to PARADIXO, who said it so well:
     
     
    I don't think anyone here is trying to claim that being LGBT+ is the reason we must like Lana, but it's undeniable that she has a large proportion of LGBT+ fans -- especially gay men -- so it's interesting to explore that correlation. Not all gay people like LDR, and not all LDR fans are gay, but there IS a link, and we're talking it out.
  8. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by WaitForLife in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I don't choose someone because I'm gay or the singer stands behind it. I stan quality and Lana makes quality music that I like.
    The only "gay icons" I followed where I felt connected was Ke$ha and I still love her. Gaga lost me during Artpop but she changed when Joanne came out.
  9. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by cashcomesquick in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I only partly agree. There are many LGBTQ fans, but definitely not the majority. The people I know who listen to her music are 90% straight men or women. She is appreciated for her quality music and especially her angelic voice. 
     
    And to be honest, I'm actually glad that she does not focus on a certain group, like Gaga did back then, which means she is open to a larger audience in general. 
  10. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by Creyk in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    You don't have to take it seriously when the media calls someone a gay icon. They call Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande gay icons too, when Ariana never did shit for the LGBT community. And Taylor didn't do much either until You Need To Calm Down in her most recent era. It's just a buzz word the media uses for some articles and it diminishes the value of real allies like Gaga or Madonna.
  11. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by PARADIXO in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    What I meant is that a big part of her homosexual fans were instantly attracted to her feminity due to being feminine themselves and/or overall feeling attracted to all things feminine. I mean, the 2012 LDR fanbase was completely obsessed with Marina's Electra Heart era which had another totally feminine image and sound. It's no secret that, psychologically speaking, a lot of homosexuals feel more comfortable with women and feminity in general. 
     
    Also, the fact that she used to sing exclusively about men (and the way she worshipped them in her lyrics) is another factor. That's why her fanbase consists of mostly women and LGBT men (and women obviously, but you know).
     
    In my case, it was purely the music and the vocals. I never felt amazed about/related to the Born to Die image. I actually felt more attracted to her imagery when she became more raw (UV-onwards). Also I remember not being attracted to her lyrics; I mean, I obviously liked them and felt they were poetry, but they didn't resonate with me (I was very young also). Her melodies were what caught me, as Born to Die inspired me to start making music myself.
     
    However, now that I'm more mature, I analyze my taste in both women and men and come to the conclusion that I love feminine traits. I never felt physically attracted to LDR other than thinking she's insanely gorgeous simply because I respect her too much as an artist, but somehow she kind of shaped up my taste for people? I like feminine, sensual women with a "femme fatale" attitude. As for guys, I like them feminine too, but more shy and submissive. All of these topics and traits are definitely partt of the LDR universe. I also always felt like she's singing to me, instead of me relating to the lyrics directly, you know what I mean?
  12. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by PARADIXO in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    The thing is that no one has to like her because they're gay The question is what in her artistry could attract an LGBT fanbase.
     
     
     
    That was really interesting and true.
  13. BlueRibbonSparklerBaby liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I am hoping the LB team can help me with working out something that I've wondered for a while. As with many prolific artists, Lana del Rey's music is so good that anyone can be a fan. However, we know there are two stereotypes that get the majority - typically regarded as hardcore fans of younger women and gay men.
     
    My question is specifically about queer people - why do they gravitate so strongly to Lana's music? Are they drawn into Lana del Rey's persona? Is there a connection with the tragical lyrics? Is Born to Die persona a gay champion compared to NFR?
     
    Why is Lana del Rey considering the mecca of queer iconography? The idea that any gay that loves Lana is a tragic bottom with daddy issues is strange as in recent times I've started to see Lana be described unironically as a gay icon. In 2017, Billboard Magazine published an article called "5 Reasons Lana del Rey is a Muse to Gay Fans", and Tulane Hullabaloo wrote an article last year that described her as an "unexpected gay icon". The second article is less scholarly but it touches on the fact that queer people find an affinity with her sad content that relates to them feeling misunderstood or unconnected - but surely not every fan feels like that??
     
    Considering her contemporaries (Madonna, Cher, L. Gaga and maybe even Florence Welch) have been substantially more supportive and vocal of their queer fanbase, why is Lana regarded with the same status? 
     
    I'm really interested in hearing anyone's reply - especially from queer folx I want to hear why you love Lana, and non-queer people about what you perceive in the situation. 
     
    EDIT: 
    TL;DR + an update to this post for clarity
    What attracts queer fans to Lana del Rey?I'm asking either: 1) as a gay person, why do you like Lana? 2) as a gay person, why what do you think draws queer people to Lana 3) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what aspects do you think draw queer people to Lana? 4) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what makes you a fan of Lana? What factors contribute to the stereotypes of a Lana del Rey fan? I'm asking what aspects of Lana's career, image, songs contribute to the stereotype - I am personally very interested in the 'sad gay' stereotype. See below for examples:
  14. Ultra Violet liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I am hoping the LB team can help me with working out something that I've wondered for a while. As with many prolific artists, Lana del Rey's music is so good that anyone can be a fan. However, we know there are two stereotypes that get the majority - typically regarded as hardcore fans of younger women and gay men.
     
    My question is specifically about queer people - why do they gravitate so strongly to Lana's music? Are they drawn into Lana del Rey's persona? Is there a connection with the tragical lyrics? Is Born to Die persona a gay champion compared to NFR?
     
    Why is Lana del Rey considering the mecca of queer iconography? The idea that any gay that loves Lana is a tragic bottom with daddy issues is strange as in recent times I've started to see Lana be described unironically as a gay icon. In 2017, Billboard Magazine published an article called "5 Reasons Lana del Rey is a Muse to Gay Fans", and Tulane Hullabaloo wrote an article last year that described her as an "unexpected gay icon". The second article is less scholarly but it touches on the fact that queer people find an affinity with her sad content that relates to them feeling misunderstood or unconnected - but surely not every fan feels like that??
     
    Considering her contemporaries (Madonna, Cher, L. Gaga and maybe even Florence Welch) have been substantially more supportive and vocal of their queer fanbase, why is Lana regarded with the same status? 
     
    I'm really interested in hearing anyone's reply - especially from queer folx I want to hear why you love Lana, and non-queer people about what you perceive in the situation. 
     
    EDIT: 
    TL;DR + an update to this post for clarity
    What attracts queer fans to Lana del Rey?I'm asking either: 1) as a gay person, why do you like Lana? 2) as a gay person, why what do you think draws queer people to Lana 3) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what aspects do you think draw queer people to Lana? 4) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what makes you a fan of Lana? What factors contribute to the stereotypes of a Lana del Rey fan? I'm asking what aspects of Lana's career, image, songs contribute to the stereotype - I am personally very interested in the 'sad gay' stereotype. See below for examples:
  15. Platinum Greenwich liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Morricone - Full song (Fan Edit)   
    @mods @@admin can you move this to the fan made audio section to prevent heart attacks.
  16. Surf Noir liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Morricone - Full song (Fan Edit)   
    @mods @@admin can you move this to the fan made audio section to prevent heart attacks.
  17. West Coast liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    These are really great answers, thanks everyone.
     
    So important, I haven't even considered that!! Rising to popularity on and in a platform which familiarised a section of her fanbase with her alternative sound. That might be the starting and big factor. 
     
     
    I wonder, if NFR was her debut album, would queer people have found it to be so relatable and iconic? There is still great material on the album but I think you're spot on with a sense of theatricality and camp that is in the first album. It's still a mystery to me why queer people are so drawn to Broadway and theatre but I suspect it's similar themes. 
     
    Do you think it's because all gay men are attracted or identity to that femininity, or is that why you were personally drawn to her? 
     
     
    Iconic. Very true, especially with her persecution in and around her 'persona'.
  18. Sugar Venom liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I am hoping the LB team can help me with working out something that I've wondered for a while. As with many prolific artists, Lana del Rey's music is so good that anyone can be a fan. However, we know there are two stereotypes that get the majority - typically regarded as hardcore fans of younger women and gay men.
     
    My question is specifically about queer people - why do they gravitate so strongly to Lana's music? Are they drawn into Lana del Rey's persona? Is there a connection with the tragical lyrics? Is Born to Die persona a gay champion compared to NFR?
     
    Why is Lana del Rey considering the mecca of queer iconography? The idea that any gay that loves Lana is a tragic bottom with daddy issues is strange as in recent times I've started to see Lana be described unironically as a gay icon. In 2017, Billboard Magazine published an article called "5 Reasons Lana del Rey is a Muse to Gay Fans", and Tulane Hullabaloo wrote an article last year that described her as an "unexpected gay icon". The second article is less scholarly but it touches on the fact that queer people find an affinity with her sad content that relates to them feeling misunderstood or unconnected - but surely not every fan feels like that??
     
    Considering her contemporaries (Madonna, Cher, L. Gaga and maybe even Florence Welch) have been substantially more supportive and vocal of their queer fanbase, why is Lana regarded with the same status? 
     
    I'm really interested in hearing anyone's reply - especially from queer folx I want to hear why you love Lana, and non-queer people about what you perceive in the situation. 
     
    EDIT: 
    TL;DR + an update to this post for clarity
    What attracts queer fans to Lana del Rey?I'm asking either: 1) as a gay person, why do you like Lana? 2) as a gay person, why what do you think draws queer people to Lana 3) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what aspects do you think draw queer people to Lana? 4) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what makes you a fan of Lana? What factors contribute to the stereotypes of a Lana del Rey fan? I'm asking what aspects of Lana's career, image, songs contribute to the stereotype - I am personally very interested in the 'sad gay' stereotype. See below for examples:
  19. West Coast liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I am hoping the LB team can help me with working out something that I've wondered for a while. As with many prolific artists, Lana del Rey's music is so good that anyone can be a fan. However, we know there are two stereotypes that get the majority - typically regarded as hardcore fans of younger women and gay men.
     
    My question is specifically about queer people - why do they gravitate so strongly to Lana's music? Are they drawn into Lana del Rey's persona? Is there a connection with the tragical lyrics? Is Born to Die persona a gay champion compared to NFR?
     
    Why is Lana del Rey considering the mecca of queer iconography? The idea that any gay that loves Lana is a tragic bottom with daddy issues is strange as in recent times I've started to see Lana be described unironically as a gay icon. In 2017, Billboard Magazine published an article called "5 Reasons Lana del Rey is a Muse to Gay Fans", and Tulane Hullabaloo wrote an article last year that described her as an "unexpected gay icon". The second article is less scholarly but it touches on the fact that queer people find an affinity with her sad content that relates to them feeling misunderstood or unconnected - but surely not every fan feels like that??
     
    Considering her contemporaries (Madonna, Cher, L. Gaga and maybe even Florence Welch) have been substantially more supportive and vocal of their queer fanbase, why is Lana regarded with the same status? 
     
    I'm really interested in hearing anyone's reply - especially from queer folx I want to hear why you love Lana, and non-queer people about what you perceive in the situation. 
     
    EDIT: 
    TL;DR + an update to this post for clarity
    What attracts queer fans to Lana del Rey?I'm asking either: 1) as a gay person, why do you like Lana? 2) as a gay person, why what do you think draws queer people to Lana 3) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what aspects do you think draw queer people to Lana? 4) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what makes you a fan of Lana? What factors contribute to the stereotypes of a Lana del Rey fan? I'm asking what aspects of Lana's career, image, songs contribute to the stereotype - I am personally very interested in the 'sad gay' stereotype. See below for examples:
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  21. takeitdoen liked a post in a topic by Soozuki in Morricone - Full song (Fan Edit)   
    oh my bad
  22. mkultraviolence liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Morricone - Full song (Fan Edit)   
    @mods @@admin can you move this to the fan made audio section to prevent heart attacks.
  23. knives liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    These are really great answers, thanks everyone.
     
    So important, I haven't even considered that!! Rising to popularity on and in a platform which familiarised a section of her fanbase with her alternative sound. That might be the starting and big factor. 
     
     
    I wonder, if NFR was her debut album, would queer people have found it to be so relatable and iconic? There is still great material on the album but I think you're spot on with a sense of theatricality and camp that is in the first album. It's still a mystery to me why queer people are so drawn to Broadway and theatre but I suspect it's similar themes. 
     
    Do you think it's because all gay men are attracted or identity to that femininity, or is that why you were personally drawn to her? 
     
     
    Iconic. Very true, especially with her persecution in and around her 'persona'.
  24. Bootynugget liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Queer Affinity for Lana del Rey - Why?   
    I am hoping the LB team can help me with working out something that I've wondered for a while. As with many prolific artists, Lana del Rey's music is so good that anyone can be a fan. However, we know there are two stereotypes that get the majority - typically regarded as hardcore fans of younger women and gay men.
     
    My question is specifically about queer people - why do they gravitate so strongly to Lana's music? Are they drawn into Lana del Rey's persona? Is there a connection with the tragical lyrics? Is Born to Die persona a gay champion compared to NFR?
     
    Why is Lana del Rey considering the mecca of queer iconography? The idea that any gay that loves Lana is a tragic bottom with daddy issues is strange as in recent times I've started to see Lana be described unironically as a gay icon. In 2017, Billboard Magazine published an article called "5 Reasons Lana del Rey is a Muse to Gay Fans", and Tulane Hullabaloo wrote an article last year that described her as an "unexpected gay icon". The second article is less scholarly but it touches on the fact that queer people find an affinity with her sad content that relates to them feeling misunderstood or unconnected - but surely not every fan feels like that??
     
    Considering her contemporaries (Madonna, Cher, L. Gaga and maybe even Florence Welch) have been substantially more supportive and vocal of their queer fanbase, why is Lana regarded with the same status? 
     
    I'm really interested in hearing anyone's reply - especially from queer folx I want to hear why you love Lana, and non-queer people about what you perceive in the situation. 
     
    EDIT: 
    TL;DR + an update to this post for clarity
    What attracts queer fans to Lana del Rey?I'm asking either: 1) as a gay person, why do you like Lana? 2) as a gay person, why what do you think draws queer people to Lana 3) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what aspects do you think draw queer people to Lana? 4) as a person not identifying as a gay man, what makes you a fan of Lana? What factors contribute to the stereotypes of a Lana del Rey fan? I'm asking what aspects of Lana's career, image, songs contribute to the stereotype - I am personally very interested in the 'sad gay' stereotype. See below for examples:
  25. heroindealer liked a post in a topic by takeitdoen in Morricone - Full song (Fan Edit)   
    @mods @@admin can you move this to the fan made audio section to prevent heart attacks.
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