Venice Jesus Whore

My CD keeps getting delayed. I ordered via Amazon.

I’ve literally never heard of YoungBoy Never Broke. Guess I’m old now.

i do not say this lightly - Pineapple Slice might be going on my best songs of all time playlist

Just moving I'm to Blame to the end made a huge difference for me. It flows so much better that way. I agree with the switching of 2 Die 4 and Suburbia too. I left Cute & Cruel in though.

Pineapple Slice is the best on the album for me. I was turned on and couldn’t sit still bc it was such a bop. She seriously never disappoints. So happy I bought the album and can’t wait to get it in a couple days.

Y’all are so creative here. This is such a great thread idea. I love this site.

What do we know about the motivations behind Lust for Life? To me, it feels like it might've been pushed by her label for more commercial success or motivated by Lana's desire to shut up her critics. This album came after years of criticism of Lana for being too sad, dark, for saying she wishes she were dead, of the Ultraviolence domestic violence controversy, etc. It makes sense that Lana's label might push her to appear happier, less controversial, and more outwardly focused rather than being as self-involved in her relationships as the last albums had been lyrically. Her sales had also been declining with each era up to this point. If I recall correctly, Lana had that interview where she said something along the lines that she felt like had to be happier for this album even if that's not how she really feels. All of the demos for the album were more Lana-esque, and much more sad and devastating than their poppier and lighter sounding released versions. Then there are all of the features, while her other albums had none, which could've been an attempt to push her more pop and more mainstream again. I remember too that this was being pushed as a return of her Born to Die hip-hop inspired influences again, like Lana or her team/label are trying to push her mainstream again since that was her most commercially successful era. And finally, there's the fact that this is a much more eclectic, and arguably messier, album compared to BTD/Paradise, UV, and HM, which all seemed like they each had a story to tell. The songs on her previous albums were cohesive and focused to the album's themes and sound, which could hint at the fact that Lana was making this album more to appease others than out of having a compelling story or idea to bring to life like she seemed to in the past. I don't think Lana cares much about fame or single/album sales, though she seems to care about critics and being well respected as a songwriter and musician, so this leads me to think this was her most forced album and that it was likely forced by her label. But then we also had an interview where she said, "I do have early thoughts about what I'd like to do with it. My label, Interscope, is pretty flexible and open to my records coming out at any time, so I don't have that pressure. I'm just happy to be able to keep on making music I can stand behind," so maybe the motivation was coming from Lana to shut her critics up, not from her label. Do we have any glimpses of truth to either of these theories, or am I reaching?

Tulsa Jesus Freak is that bitch. The amount of times I’m just going about my business and “you should stay real close to Jesus” randomly pops in my head is insane.

yes!! I’m glad it wasn’t just me lol

Not me only now fully realizing and understanding the lyric of "Lying to herself because her liquor's top shelf" 10 years later. I was 14 when this album came out so I just thought she kept her liquor in the top shelf of her cabinet because I didn't know what top shelf liquor was. For some reason, I always pictured her having to like getting on the kitchen counter to reach her liquor. And I've never really reevaluated my thought process until now.

Can’t believe we’re coming up on a year since this album was released already. Where is the time going?

This is so fucked up. I’m sorry someone did this to you, Elle, and thank you for everything you do. This community has been a regular visit for me for years now.

Y’all better not be those fans who say this and then complain when Lana releases the songs on the next album and say the album isn’t as exciting/good because “we’ve already heard it before”

seven by Taylor Swift

This. Please stream/buy whatever you can y’all https://open.spotify.com/track/72yP0DUlWPyH8P7IoxskwN https://music.apple.com/us/album/hold-me-closer-single/1641082201

Young & Beautiful is a gorgeous song, but that tiktok audio that says, “and now I want to sit back and relax and enjoy my evening.. When all of a sudden I hear this agitating, grating voice” is how I feel when I hear it start playing

taking notes in this thread for my “bad bitch” playlist

Lana’s album nearing completion, Britney’s first new song in 6 years has been leaked, and Nicki is doing pop. Is it 2011 again?!

I love that yours is short and sweet! I feel like Wild at Heart is a good, fun, celebratory closer too.

As much as I was disappointed with Chemtrails and BB as their own separate projects, I will say I’ve been able to make a playlist out of my favorite songs for them that does fill a void in my Lana listening universe that otherwise wasn’t filled. Mainly it’s calm, intimate, gentle, lowkey, melancholic songs that aren’t as intense as her other music. It feels like a modern more elaborate version of Sirens, which was my calm Lana album before these two.

I just want to say New Moon and Live to Survive are pop perfection and should’ve been in the top 10.

Chelsea Hotel No. 2

She instantly drew me in and made me an obsessed fan back in 2012 when I was 13-14. My interest was at its peak in 2012-2014 (through end of UV era) since I was a lonely, depressed, closeted teen with nothing better to do than to stan her and Britney online, and Lana was so unique and different compared to pop music at the time. I remember getting slightly less interested in 2015 with Honeymoon, not because I didn’t love the album or her, I think I was just distracted with other things. I was excited for and obsessed with LFL when it came out, I don’t like it much now. Again, I didn’t really follow her between eras, but I did listen to MAC, VB, and DT when they came out. When NFR finally came out, it reinvigorated my love for her. It’s my #2 favorite album of all time, and the NFR/Bartender/HIAB is one of my favorite music videos. I got annoyed and probably my least happy I’ve ever been with her in 2020 with her Instagram controversies, meeting with fans with the jewel face mask during the pandemic when there were no vaccines, her filming herself while driving on what looked like a curvy mountain road, her repeatedly delaying albums, giving fake album release dates and titles, and false promises, and just her arrogant attitude. And then I was really disappointed in both COTCC and BB. I like COTCC more now than release, but Blue Banisters might be my least favorite release of hers ever. And it sucks, because everything she’s put out and all her unreleased music has always just clicked with me. So I was super disappointed that her most recent albums weren’t clicking, and ironically, it made me post here more because I’ve been going back and forth between being disappointed and angry and trying to convince myself I like them lol. That being said, I don’t feel like I’ve ever stopped being a fan or my fan card has ever decreased in any way. Like even with me being more obsessed in 2012-2014, I feel like I’ve been at a constant level of Lana fan status this whole decade where I just will never not be a fan unless she does something truly awful in character. I have very slightly less confidence in her artistic vision now due to her two most recent albums though.

The greatest just feels like the ultimate bittersweet end of summer and end of an era song. And the lyrics feel super ironic and fitting given summer 2019 was probably my favorite time of my life so far, then things went downhill, and then a pandemic hit, and the 2020s have been pretty shit ever since.

thank you so much!!