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  1. sourheart liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Ultraviolence   
    just read a post about how UV (song & video) could have been inspired by Jim Morrison & Pamela Courson's relationship, and a lot of it does make sense... other than what's mentioned there - getting together when she was 18 / 'Jim raised me up' + their complicated & often violent (due to his drinking) relationship / 'he hit me and it felt like a kiss' + her futile attempts at getting married / the lone bride theme from the video / 'loving him is never enough' - a few other things also fit:
    - 'Jim brought me back' / 'I could have died right there' : hinting at her heroin dependence & overdoses?
    - 'I can hear sirens, sirens' : she famously called the fire fighters & the police after founding him dead in the bathtub in their apartment in Paris
    - 'yo soy la princesa' : Jim wrote many songs dedicated to Pam & in the most notable one, 'Queen of the Highway', he called her a princess
    - the 'white lines' reference : they snorted heroin (China White) together, which was reportedly the cause of his death
    - the only thing i can't quite figure out is the Woodstock reference, because The Doors never performed there & afaik Jim and Pam never attended
     
    anyway, i also think the Source Family & other Manson-like cults theory makes a lot of sense, but i thought this was interesting nonetheless.
  2. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana Song Trilogies   
    a dark dangerous affair with a married man. in order: meeting him, getting away together, life on the run.
     
    You Can Be The Boss
    Us Against The World
    Push Me Down
     
    someone should do a Wild At Heart/True Romance/Badlands -inspired movie based on these 3 songs
  3. Cult Leader liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in a reading list for Lana fans   
    meaning: the usual suspects / stuff she's directly or indirectly mentioned in songs or interviews AND books whose themes relate to her persona / vibe / interests and thus we might like to read.
     
    stuff she's mentioned one way or another : (surely incomplete, i'll keep editing this if people add others in the replies)
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Leaves of Grass - Walt Whitman Paradise Lost - John Milton Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi Burnt Norton - TS Eliot On The Road - Jack Kerouac Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller Howl - Allen Ginsberg Victoria Holt - Road to Paradise Island Norman Rockwell (no specific book afaik) The Master Key System - Charles F. Haanel (@MoonAgain) The Bible (@HANGINGFROOT) Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill (@Barry) The Satanic Witch - Anton LaVey Aleister Crowley (no specific book mentioned) Black Beauty - Anna Sewell A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess Nature (essay) - Ralph Waldo Emerson (this + the 3 above by @trayertrash) Mind Breaths: Poems 1972-77 - Allen Ginsberg Matcha - Jessica Flint & Anna Kavaliunas Everyday Watercolor: Learn to Paint Watercolor in 30 Days - Jenna Rainey (this + 2 above @ ig post feb 19) Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller (ig post march 19) Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories about the Wild Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés The Creative Fire: Myths and Stories About the Cycles of Creativity - Clarissa Pinkola Estés Untie the Strong Woman: To Know and Honor Holy Mother - Clarissa Pinkola Estés (this + 2 above @ ig post july 2019) In The Nature Of Materials: The Buildings of Frank Lloyd Wright 1887-1941 - Henry-Russell Hitchcock Man And His Symbols - Carl Jung The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - Richard Prum (@kristinaj this + 2 above @ ig posts september 2019) Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - Tom Horn and Nita Horn (@AnarKissed) Surfing California - Bank Wright  
    our Lana-related recs : (add a brief description)
    The Girls - Emma Cline (coming of age story of a teen girl who joins a Manson-like cult in the 60s) Marlena - Julie Buntin (story of a toxic & dangerous friendship between 2 teen girls, marked by drug addiction and general recklessness) White Oleander - Janet Fitch (a very California book about a girl placed in several foster homes & her toxic, beautiful mother) Joan Didion - Slouching Towards Bethlehem (imo it's impossible Lana hasn't read this book; a series of seminal essays about 60s California by prob the most iconic Cali writer) Junky - William Burroughs (THE book about heroin addiction) Inherent Vice - Thomas Pynchon (psychedelic noir set in 60s California about a stoner P.I. looking for a lost girl; also: watch the movie!!!) The Two Mrs. Greenvilles - Dominick Dunne (@kitschesque, "BTD era glamour") Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan (@RainOverLondon, "teenage girl named cécile who lives a lavish and languorous lifestyle, spending the summer at her family’s french riviera villa with her father, raymond, and his mistress, elsa; call me by your name meets gossip girl") Lithium For Medea - Kate Braverman (a story of addiction, of complicated mother/daughter relationships & toxic romances set in Venice, LA)
  4. mermaidsparkle liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Does anyone think Lana's latest lyrics suggest that she's an atheist/agnostic now?   
    THANK YOU. and i say that as an agnostic. like you, i also dgaf about other people's religion or lack thereof, but this particular brand of holier-than-thou atheism is incredibly annoying & more than a little bit ironic - they can be just as proselytizing (or more) as those they deride & are supposedly superior to.
  5. The Sun Also Rises liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in a reading list for Lana fans   
    meaning: the usual suspects / stuff she's directly or indirectly mentioned in songs or interviews AND books whose themes relate to her persona / vibe / interests and thus we might like to read.
     
    stuff she's mentioned one way or another : (surely incomplete, i'll keep editing this if people add others in the replies)
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Leaves of Grass - Walt Whitman Paradise Lost - John Milton Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi Burnt Norton - TS Eliot On The Road - Jack Kerouac Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller Howl - Allen Ginsberg Victoria Holt - Road to Paradise Island Norman Rockwell (no specific book afaik) The Master Key System - Charles F. Haanel (@MoonAgain) The Bible (@HANGINGFROOT) Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill (@Barry) The Satanic Witch - Anton LaVey Aleister Crowley (no specific book mentioned) Black Beauty - Anna Sewell A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess Nature (essay) - Ralph Waldo Emerson (this + the 3 above by @trayertrash) Mind Breaths: Poems 1972-77 - Allen Ginsberg Matcha - Jessica Flint & Anna Kavaliunas Everyday Watercolor: Learn to Paint Watercolor in 30 Days - Jenna Rainey (this + 2 above @ ig post feb 19) Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller (ig post march 19) Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories about the Wild Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés The Creative Fire: Myths and Stories About the Cycles of Creativity - Clarissa Pinkola Estés Untie the Strong Woman: To Know and Honor Holy Mother - Clarissa Pinkola Estés (this + 2 above @ ig post july 2019) In The Nature Of Materials: The Buildings of Frank Lloyd Wright 1887-1941 - Henry-Russell Hitchcock Man And His Symbols - Carl Jung The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - Richard Prum (@kristinaj this + 2 above @ ig posts september 2019) Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - Tom Horn and Nita Horn (@AnarKissed) Surfing California - Bank Wright  
    our Lana-related recs : (add a brief description)
    The Girls - Emma Cline (coming of age story of a teen girl who joins a Manson-like cult in the 60s) Marlena - Julie Buntin (story of a toxic & dangerous friendship between 2 teen girls, marked by drug addiction and general recklessness) White Oleander - Janet Fitch (a very California book about a girl placed in several foster homes & her toxic, beautiful mother) Joan Didion - Slouching Towards Bethlehem (imo it's impossible Lana hasn't read this book; a series of seminal essays about 60s California by prob the most iconic Cali writer) Junky - William Burroughs (THE book about heroin addiction) Inherent Vice - Thomas Pynchon (psychedelic noir set in 60s California about a stoner P.I. looking for a lost girl; also: watch the movie!!!) The Two Mrs. Greenvilles - Dominick Dunne (@kitschesque, "BTD era glamour") Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan (@RainOverLondon, "teenage girl named cécile who lives a lavish and languorous lifestyle, spending the summer at her family’s french riviera villa with her father, raymond, and his mistress, elsa; call me by your name meets gossip girl") Lithium For Medea - Kate Braverman (a story of addiction, of complicated mother/daughter relationships & toxic romances set in Venice, LA)
  6. gothphetamine liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Unpopular Lana Opinions   
    @@Electric Body
     
     
    i think you're you're confusing how she is or was marketed, how her fans might perceive her and - a lot more importantly when it comes to the subject at hand - what she wants to be, or be seen as. and, in my opinion, the latter is what explains most of her post-BTD behavior.
  7. Escapism liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in a reading list for Lana fans   
    meaning: the usual suspects / stuff she's directly or indirectly mentioned in songs or interviews AND books whose themes relate to her persona / vibe / interests and thus we might like to read.
     
    stuff she's mentioned one way or another : (surely incomplete, i'll keep editing this if people add others in the replies)
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Leaves of Grass - Walt Whitman Paradise Lost - John Milton Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi Burnt Norton - TS Eliot On The Road - Jack Kerouac Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller Howl - Allen Ginsberg Victoria Holt - Road to Paradise Island Norman Rockwell (no specific book afaik) The Master Key System - Charles F. Haanel (@MoonAgain) The Bible (@HANGINGFROOT) Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill (@Barry) The Satanic Witch - Anton LaVey Aleister Crowley (no specific book mentioned) Black Beauty - Anna Sewell A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess Nature (essay) - Ralph Waldo Emerson (this + the 3 above by @trayertrash) Mind Breaths: Poems 1972-77 - Allen Ginsberg Matcha - Jessica Flint & Anna Kavaliunas Everyday Watercolor: Learn to Paint Watercolor in 30 Days - Jenna Rainey (this + 2 above @ ig post feb 19) Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller (ig post march 19) Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories about the Wild Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés The Creative Fire: Myths and Stories About the Cycles of Creativity - Clarissa Pinkola Estés Untie the Strong Woman: To Know and Honor Holy Mother - Clarissa Pinkola Estés (this + 2 above @ ig post july 2019) In The Nature Of Materials: The Buildings of Frank Lloyd Wright 1887-1941 - Henry-Russell Hitchcock Man And His Symbols - Carl Jung The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - Richard Prum (@kristinaj this + 2 above @ ig posts september 2019) Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - Tom Horn and Nita Horn (@AnarKissed) Surfing California - Bank Wright  
    our Lana-related recs : (add a brief description)
    The Girls - Emma Cline (coming of age story of a teen girl who joins a Manson-like cult in the 60s) Marlena - Julie Buntin (story of a toxic & dangerous friendship between 2 teen girls, marked by drug addiction and general recklessness) White Oleander - Janet Fitch (a very California book about a girl placed in several foster homes & her toxic, beautiful mother) Joan Didion - Slouching Towards Bethlehem (imo it's impossible Lana hasn't read this book; a series of seminal essays about 60s California by prob the most iconic Cali writer) Junky - William Burroughs (THE book about heroin addiction) Inherent Vice - Thomas Pynchon (psychedelic noir set in 60s California about a stoner P.I. looking for a lost girl; also: watch the movie!!!) The Two Mrs. Greenvilles - Dominick Dunne (@kitschesque, "BTD era glamour") Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan (@RainOverLondon, "teenage girl named cécile who lives a lavish and languorous lifestyle, spending the summer at her family’s french riviera villa with her father, raymond, and his mistress, elsa; call me by your name meets gossip girl") Lithium For Medea - Kate Braverman (a story of addiction, of complicated mother/daughter relationships & toxic romances set in Venice, LA)
  8. Crazy for You liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in California   
    lana & barrie get back together challenge!   
  9. violentvioletsky liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in a reading list for Lana fans   
    meaning: the usual suspects / stuff she's directly or indirectly mentioned in songs or interviews AND books whose themes relate to her persona / vibe / interests and thus we might like to read.
     
    stuff she's mentioned one way or another : (surely incomplete, i'll keep editing this if people add others in the replies)
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Leaves of Grass - Walt Whitman Paradise Lost - John Milton Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi Burnt Norton - TS Eliot On The Road - Jack Kerouac Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller Howl - Allen Ginsberg Victoria Holt - Road to Paradise Island Norman Rockwell (no specific book afaik) The Master Key System - Charles F. Haanel (@MoonAgain) The Bible (@HANGINGFROOT) Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill (@Barry) The Satanic Witch - Anton LaVey Aleister Crowley (no specific book mentioned) Black Beauty - Anna Sewell A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess Nature (essay) - Ralph Waldo Emerson (this + the 3 above by @trayertrash) Mind Breaths: Poems 1972-77 - Allen Ginsberg Matcha - Jessica Flint & Anna Kavaliunas Everyday Watercolor: Learn to Paint Watercolor in 30 Days - Jenna Rainey (this + 2 above @ ig post feb 19) Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller (ig post march 19) Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories about the Wild Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés The Creative Fire: Myths and Stories About the Cycles of Creativity - Clarissa Pinkola Estés Untie the Strong Woman: To Know and Honor Holy Mother - Clarissa Pinkola Estés (this + 2 above @ ig post july 2019) In The Nature Of Materials: The Buildings of Frank Lloyd Wright 1887-1941 - Henry-Russell Hitchcock Man And His Symbols - Carl Jung The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - Richard Prum (@kristinaj this + 2 above @ ig posts september 2019) Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - Tom Horn and Nita Horn (@AnarKissed) Surfing California - Bank Wright  
    our Lana-related recs : (add a brief description)
    The Girls - Emma Cline (coming of age story of a teen girl who joins a Manson-like cult in the 60s) Marlena - Julie Buntin (story of a toxic & dangerous friendship between 2 teen girls, marked by drug addiction and general recklessness) White Oleander - Janet Fitch (a very California book about a girl placed in several foster homes & her toxic, beautiful mother) Joan Didion - Slouching Towards Bethlehem (imo it's impossible Lana hasn't read this book; a series of seminal essays about 60s California by prob the most iconic Cali writer) Junky - William Burroughs (THE book about heroin addiction) Inherent Vice - Thomas Pynchon (psychedelic noir set in 60s California about a stoner P.I. looking for a lost girl; also: watch the movie!!!) The Two Mrs. Greenvilles - Dominick Dunne (@kitschesque, "BTD era glamour") Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan (@RainOverLondon, "teenage girl named cécile who lives a lavish and languorous lifestyle, spending the summer at her family’s french riviera villa with her father, raymond, and his mistress, elsa; call me by your name meets gossip girl") Lithium For Medea - Kate Braverman (a story of addiction, of complicated mother/daughter relationships & toxic romances set in Venice, LA)
  10. Orville Peck liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Orville Peck   
    "Psychedelic outlaw cowboy croons love and loss from the badlands of North America."
     
    Always masked and under a pseudonym, self-described as a queer cowboy & signed to Sub Pop, and often called "the male Lana Del Rey" (also, he loves Lana), his music is a mix of alt country and sad americana.
    His debut album "Pony" came out last moth.
     
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3esGD6lcMM
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR-4l5M_MQ8
  11. Blossom liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Instagram Updates   
    is courtney love the one advising her right now, or???
  12. Maeve liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Terrence Loves You   
    i was never convinced about the Terry Burns theory re: who is Terrence, and lately it occurred to me - could the Terrence in the title refer to Terence McKenna?
     
    he was the guy who did the most to popularize hallucinogens in mainstream culture, only 2nd to Timothy Leary, and described as "an American ethnobotanist, mystic, psychonaut, lecturer, author, and an advocate for the responsible use of naturally occurring psychedelic plants". he had several theories/thoughts about psychedelics ofc, artists & creativity, but also about time and frequently cited TS Eliot in his lectures (cue Burnt Norton). other topics included:
     
     
    several of those themes match Lana's self-professed interests. he frequented Grateful Dead type circles and was kind of a guru-like figure, revered by the west coast psychedelic music crowd, so there's some overlap there too. and this "Terrence" mention happens in a pretty psych drugs-influenced phase of Lana's career, right after UV & in an album that also features a song called High By The Beach and a pretty literal video for Freak.
     
    also, some of his more popular quotes are:
     
     
    Lana in TLY:
     
     
    i have no idea if this is anywhere near what she was thinking when she wrote the song, but given her interest in metaphysics & psychedelics it's certain that she knows him. there's also the misspelling of the name to account for - tho Terry Burns was also Terence, not Terrence, so. but anyway, it's just a thought. (where is @@evilentity when you need him!)
  13. Make me your Dream Life liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in What are your favourite literary quotes of all time?   
    "Loneliness is the human condition. Cultivate it. The way it tunnels into you allows your soul room to grow. Never expect to outgrow loneliness. Never hope to find people who will understand you, someone to fill that space. An intelligent, sensitive person is the exception, the very great exception. If you expect to find people who will understand you, you will grow murderous with disappointment. The best you'll ever do is to understand yourself, know what it is that you want, and not let the cattle stand in your way.”
    ― Janet Fitch, White Oleander
     
    a lot of v good, poetic quotes in that whole book 
  14. marinasrep liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in a reading list for Lana fans   
    meaning: the usual suspects / stuff she's directly or indirectly mentioned in songs or interviews AND books whose themes relate to her persona / vibe / interests and thus we might like to read.
     
    stuff she's mentioned one way or another : (surely incomplete, i'll keep editing this if people add others in the replies)
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Leaves of Grass - Walt Whitman Paradise Lost - John Milton Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi Burnt Norton - TS Eliot On The Road - Jack Kerouac Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller Howl - Allen Ginsberg Victoria Holt - Road to Paradise Island Norman Rockwell (no specific book afaik) The Master Key System - Charles F. Haanel (@MoonAgain) The Bible (@HANGINGFROOT) Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill (@Barry) The Satanic Witch - Anton LaVey Aleister Crowley (no specific book mentioned) Black Beauty - Anna Sewell A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess Nature (essay) - Ralph Waldo Emerson (this + the 3 above by @trayertrash) Mind Breaths: Poems 1972-77 - Allen Ginsberg Matcha - Jessica Flint & Anna Kavaliunas Everyday Watercolor: Learn to Paint Watercolor in 30 Days - Jenna Rainey (this + 2 above @ ig post feb 19) Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller (ig post march 19) Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories about the Wild Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés The Creative Fire: Myths and Stories About the Cycles of Creativity - Clarissa Pinkola Estés Untie the Strong Woman: To Know and Honor Holy Mother - Clarissa Pinkola Estés (this + 2 above @ ig post july 2019) In The Nature Of Materials: The Buildings of Frank Lloyd Wright 1887-1941 - Henry-Russell Hitchcock Man And His Symbols - Carl Jung The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - Richard Prum (@kristinaj this + 2 above @ ig posts september 2019) Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - Tom Horn and Nita Horn (@AnarKissed) Surfing California - Bank Wright  
    our Lana-related recs : (add a brief description)
    The Girls - Emma Cline (coming of age story of a teen girl who joins a Manson-like cult in the 60s) Marlena - Julie Buntin (story of a toxic & dangerous friendship between 2 teen girls, marked by drug addiction and general recklessness) White Oleander - Janet Fitch (a very California book about a girl placed in several foster homes & her toxic, beautiful mother) Joan Didion - Slouching Towards Bethlehem (imo it's impossible Lana hasn't read this book; a series of seminal essays about 60s California by prob the most iconic Cali writer) Junky - William Burroughs (THE book about heroin addiction) Inherent Vice - Thomas Pynchon (psychedelic noir set in 60s California about a stoner P.I. looking for a lost girl; also: watch the movie!!!) The Two Mrs. Greenvilles - Dominick Dunne (@kitschesque, "BTD era glamour") Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan (@RainOverLondon, "teenage girl named cécile who lives a lavish and languorous lifestyle, spending the summer at her family’s french riviera villa with her father, raymond, and his mistress, elsa; call me by your name meets gossip girl") Lithium For Medea - Kate Braverman (a story of addiction, of complicated mother/daughter relationships & toxic romances set in Venice, LA)
  15. Veinsineon liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Ultraviolence   
    just read a post about how UV (song & video) could have been inspired by Jim Morrison & Pamela Courson's relationship, and a lot of it does make sense... other than what's mentioned there - getting together when she was 18 / 'Jim raised me up' + their complicated & often violent (due to his drinking) relationship / 'he hit me and it felt like a kiss' + her futile attempts at getting married / the lone bride theme from the video / 'loving him is never enough' - a few other things also fit:
    - 'Jim brought me back' / 'I could have died right there' : hinting at her heroin dependence & overdoses?
    - 'I can hear sirens, sirens' : she famously called the fire fighters & the police after founding him dead in the bathtub in their apartment in Paris
    - 'yo soy la princesa' : Jim wrote many songs dedicated to Pam & in the most notable one, 'Queen of the Highway', he called her a princess
    - the 'white lines' reference : they snorted heroin (China White) together, which was reportedly the cause of his death
    - the only thing i can't quite figure out is the Woodstock reference, because The Doors never performed there & afaik Jim and Pam never attended
     
    anyway, i also think the Source Family & other Manson-like cults theory makes a lot of sense, but i thought this was interesting nonetheless.
  16. niandra lades liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
  17. theworldspins liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    if she said that, it's also patently untrue. i already followed her circa question for the culture drama & that's when she went with the zeitgeist and p much turned on lana, she was def all over her ass before that. maybe she doesn't listen to her now but to deny influence/inspiration when the internet is forever is... a choice.
  18. QueenOfHearts liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in a reading list for Lana fans   
    meaning: the usual suspects / stuff she's directly or indirectly mentioned in songs or interviews AND books whose themes relate to her persona / vibe / interests and thus we might like to read.
     
    stuff she's mentioned one way or another : (surely incomplete, i'll keep editing this if people add others in the replies)
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov Leaves of Grass - Walt Whitman Paradise Lost - John Milton Helter Skelter - Vincent Bugliosi Burnt Norton - TS Eliot On The Road - Jack Kerouac Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller Howl - Allen Ginsberg Victoria Holt - Road to Paradise Island Norman Rockwell (no specific book afaik) The Master Key System - Charles F. Haanel (@MoonAgain) The Bible (@HANGINGFROOT) Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill (@Barry) The Satanic Witch - Anton LaVey Aleister Crowley (no specific book mentioned) Black Beauty - Anna Sewell A Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess Nature (essay) - Ralph Waldo Emerson (this + the 3 above by @trayertrash) Mind Breaths: Poems 1972-77 - Allen Ginsberg Matcha - Jessica Flint & Anna Kavaliunas Everyday Watercolor: Learn to Paint Watercolor in 30 Days - Jenna Rainey (this + 2 above @ ig post feb 19) Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller (ig post march 19) Women Who Run With the Wolves: Myths and Stories about the Wild Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés The Creative Fire: Myths and Stories About the Cycles of Creativity - Clarissa Pinkola Estés Untie the Strong Woman: To Know and Honor Holy Mother - Clarissa Pinkola Estés (this + 2 above @ ig post july 2019) In The Nature Of Materials: The Buildings of Frank Lloyd Wright 1887-1941 - Henry-Russell Hitchcock Man And His Symbols - Carl Jung The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - Richard Prum (@kristinaj this + 2 above @ ig posts september 2019) Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - Tom Horn and Nita Horn (@AnarKissed) Surfing California - Bank Wright  
    our Lana-related recs : (add a brief description)
    The Girls - Emma Cline (coming of age story of a teen girl who joins a Manson-like cult in the 60s) Marlena - Julie Buntin (story of a toxic & dangerous friendship between 2 teen girls, marked by drug addiction and general recklessness) White Oleander - Janet Fitch (a very California book about a girl placed in several foster homes & her toxic, beautiful mother) Joan Didion - Slouching Towards Bethlehem (imo it's impossible Lana hasn't read this book; a series of seminal essays about 60s California by prob the most iconic Cali writer) Junky - William Burroughs (THE book about heroin addiction) Inherent Vice - Thomas Pynchon (psychedelic noir set in 60s California about a stoner P.I. looking for a lost girl; also: watch the movie!!!) The Two Mrs. Greenvilles - Dominick Dunne (@kitschesque, "BTD era glamour") Bonjour Tristesse - Françoise Sagan (@RainOverLondon, "teenage girl named cécile who lives a lavish and languorous lifestyle, spending the summer at her family’s french riviera villa with her father, raymond, and his mistress, elsa; call me by your name meets gossip girl") Lithium For Medea - Kate Braverman (a story of addiction, of complicated mother/daughter relationships & toxic romances set in Venice, LA)
  19. Poor Stacy liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
  20. paradisetropico liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
  21. Elina liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    if she said that, it's also patently untrue. i already followed her circa question for the culture drama & that's when she went with the zeitgeist and p much turned on lana, she was def all over her ass before that. maybe she doesn't listen to her now but to deny influence/inspiration when the internet is forever is... a choice.
  22. evalionisameme liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
  23. BeautifulAnywhere liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
  24. boom like that liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
  25. SoftwareUpgrade liked a post in a topic by bummersummer in Lana and Jack Donoghue at a prison in Chicago, IL - July 8th(?), 2022   
    re: ethel cain, it's hilarious to me how she'll get really defensive whenever someone points out the obvious ldr influence in her music / aesthetic (like the pitchfork review of her album which was, lbr, on point) but won't resist inserting herself in the current ldr discourse in a ~i won't be outdone, but make it ironic~ sorta way, thus proving lana truly lives in her mind rent free 
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