ArtDecoDelRey

imagine a world where she has this energy for her own music

why is she doing all of this for suburban house i dont quite get it 

btw not all Jews are on Israel's side
https://www.timesofisrael.com/200-held-as-jewish-group-shuts-nycs-grand-central-calling-for-gaza-ceasefire/

the people want honeymoon songs

no one's relying on Lana Del Rey to form our political opinions or news sources we just think her politics are generally embarrassing.

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

Just to explain a few things:
Gaza is the world's largest open air prison, they really have no government or resources, or anything close to what Isreal has so this situation is not equal in the slightest
The last election Palestinians had was in 2006, and that is how Hamas came into power but they are more like a gang than an actual military group or government
40% of Palestinians are 18 years and younger, so they had no say in this election
Israel was formed on top of Palestine, which stole land from the Palestinians and forced them back and back until they have barely anything now. People are kicked out of their own homes for Israeli settlers to live in, many of them coming from the United States. In their government and law system they are not seen as equal to Israelis and Israel has been killing them and causing them to suffer for 70+ years
So, Palestinians just want to live and they want their land and homes back, while Israel sees them as a threat to their "state's" existence and respond by constantly bombing and killing them. Many countries around the world recognize Israel's occupation of Palestine as illegal as well

 
These are things I wish they would teach us in school in the US, but the US is also very involved with Israel so

no fr this isnt a chronically online issue, this is a human rights issue

obviously any sane person would want the Hamas captured to be released and end war so INNOCENT civilians will stop dying, but thanking the president for the doing the BARE MINIMUM while he is out there SUPPORTING Israel killing innocent Palestinians is CRAZY TO ME. like Joe Biden used his VETO power to Brazil's suggestion to end war, stop killing innocent civilians and holding Hamas accountable.

Let's be real. Lana isn't going to educate herself and no one around her is. No one in her circle could explain to her why people were mad about QFTC, and no one around her will explain it to her this time. Because theyre all the same as her, exposed to the same information in their position, and just double down on it with eachother.
I also don't see the point in people saying she has good intentions. OF COURSE she does, yet she can still be (and is) wrong. Everyone thinks they have good intentions. Everyone thinks they're in the right. Even people deploying the missiles think that they're right.
Misinformation and propaganda run wild, and in this case is the first and easiest information to see. People never believe they're under the influence of it because of this.

When i tell you my heart dropped seeing her name on that list...

But on another hand, can we stop with the "I'm sure she meant well" and "She has a good heart she just isn't well informed" excuses? It isn't like this is the first time anyways.
Not to mention, this isn't the 70s or 80s anymore, access to information has never been easier, literally one click away and she could've learned and read/seen all about the history of this ongoing genocide, especially now when for the first time ever it seems public opinion is swaying a bit into the palestinian side and videos are being posted literally everywhere. Not to mention the amount of american musicians and artists who've been very vocal about this such as kehlani and the fact that lana is friends with Elyanna who is palestinian.

And if she was living in her own bubble and hasn't been keeping up much with what's going on, then in that case maybe she shouldn't be going around signing open letters taking stances.

Biden and the US supporting the genocide is not in the interest of American Jews but rather because they use Israel for Western political interests in the Middle East (and have since its inception).
 
The vast majority of American Zionists are not even Jewish but nationalist Evangelicals.

The sis signed the statement in the OP about the Israel-Palestine conflict and it's a controversial/crackheaded statement for a number of reasons and she should've just gone shopping or something 

i completely agree w this point. I wasn’t really educated on this subject but there is SO much Pro-Palestine stuff on social media I can’t believe how strongly the message on social media is defiant of what the west (mostly America) is trying to push. Like it really feels like we’re in a weird new era 

Me and Rivers agreeing on something for once? Oh sister come here 

Nothing delusional about the hundreds of pro-Palestinian protests going on in the world, which you would’ve been hard pressed to find 30 years ago.

While the letter supports peace between Palestinians and Israelis, it unfortunately glosses over the oppression of Palestinians by Israelis.
The other letter also supports the safe release of the hostages, but is much more balanced. I wish she had signed it instead.

I would argue the internet has contributed to more empathy to the people of Palestine than any other time in history, considering Western media has historically funneled a strict pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian narrative for decades. TikTok and firsthand accounts from Gaza are finally starting to break through this script. There is a reason they are blocking the Internet in Gaza.

I think it is important for everyone on this forum to take a step back and realize how lucky we all are to be in the middle of this silly discourse about Lana Del Rey rather than starving in Gaza with no internet, electricity, food, or water. I also recommend that people watch the firsthand accounts of civilians who are begging us to listen.

“Hard politics on LB is crazy to me. On the internet tbh. Y'all being disappointed by Lana for what? For a topic most of y'all don't even understand.”
 
It is ignorance that does and always will contribute to the terrorism, destruction, and occupation of others. Our government doesn’t WANT us to understand. It is better for the U.S. and for Israel if citizens remain ignorant. 
 
if people want to talk about the occupation and terrorism of Palestine on Lanaboards, who cares? Conversations lead to education and that is overall a good thing. You are cynical. Pray you will never find yourself wondering whether your child is dead or alive

I mean I don’t the see the issue in people being dissapointed in her. It’s weird to just think anyone shouldn’t have any feelings on it when she chose to sign that letter. And Lana did get praise for donating, so I don’t know what you are even talking about. 

ma'am can you stop with the antisemitic tropes about show business? it's really not helping your cause. There are multiple Jewish people on the second letter, and several gentiles on the first. You sound like David Duke when you and the gurl who said she'll definitely win a Grammy now. Just nasty ignorant repugnant rhetoric.

Why are people infantilising Lana and stripping her agency to say “she doesn’t know what she’s doing, when this woman is incredibly intelligent and knows exactly what she’s doing. Just because Lana might be not be doing something we necessarily agree with, doesn’t mean she’s an idiot.
 

I just don’t think we can compare Palestinians to Native Americans. It’s a little different, given that both groups of people have historical and religious ties to the region. And it paints an image of simplicity over this situation, which requires a level of nuance we are not accustomed to as a society. The real first step in the process of moving forward as a society is addressing situations at the SOURCE of the issue. The source here is a far right wing leader who helped cultivate and mobilize a radical political group inside Gaza to undermine the PLO’s authority, and then when that monster he created became uncontrollable, their answer was to lay waste to the entire city. What’s different here as well is the United States’ blind support for Israel, leading to a worldwide dismissal of their own atrocities.War is a crime.

Let’s also not forget that Israel is bombing the shit out of their own hostages too I mean BB Netanyahu does not even really care about them if we’re being honest

Oh that’s not-
its totally valid to criticise Israel as a state/government but let’s be careful not to generalise Jews