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you are LITERALLY the one trying to initiate conflict here sweet thing. Last i checked, this is LANAboards, we all clearly love Lana and her art and we should all appreciate that instead of attacking one another on petty shit because you feel so entitled to becoming a martyr for Jackoff's cause or some shit.

"malicious propaganga" I can't with you Jack Jared   remember how you got almost banned because of
 
And you 3 Jack stans need to realize not everyone is onboard with what Lana went for (and is apparently still going for for Wet Hot American Summer), no matter how much you keep mentioning Pitchfork reviews and Metacritic scores.

If you're a casual fan you're probably not listening closely. Critics are hardly going to be listening to Lana's album on repeat at every part of the day at full volume. The reason we hear it is because we're rabid fans who obsess over these details (as I hope we should - we're fans on LANAboards). I had a quick skip through and these are some of the things I heard (some with timestamps so you can find them quickly)
 
Norman Fucking Rockwell
This is so sloppy the whole thing might be style choice. Throughout the opening you can hear things moving, lips smacking etc.
0:18 – 0:22: Lips moving
 
Mariners + Venice Bitch + Happiness is a Butterfly
Good!
 
Fuck It I Love You
I mean, arguably you all hate the CD alt version so you tell me.
 
Cinnamon Girl
0:28: This is very obviously a different take with clearer vocals.
1:41 – After “Kerosine” you can hear a case or something shift in the background
 
Doin’ Time –
Perfect because it has totally different production. 
 
Love Song 
0:27: Instrumental loop drops in volume and then restarts noticeably.
1:04 – On ‘Oh, be my once in a lifetime’, the mic placement is closer to her, which causes the vocal line to be louder. This doesn’t happen in the second chorus, but the bass is boosted higher.
 
How to Disappear
0:07 onwwards: The instruments are crackling and peaking slightly on the bass. Maybe it’s a . . . choice.
0:51: The microphone peaks and her voice whistles (from no hi pass filter) on the word ‘to’
2:37: The mixing is bad. The vocals are too quiet compared to the first portion of the song, now with very loud backing.
 
The Next Best American Record 
0:07 + 0:10 there is a scuff on the guitar where the frets are moved.
Vocals have an ambient hiss behind them (not Jack’s fault, a trademark Rick fuck up)
1:21 “Fame” reverb echo.
 
Bartender
Vocals have the ambient hiss
 
The Greatest 
4:08: in the left speaker you can hear the guitar shifting against pants.
 
California 
Vocals have ambient hiss
 
Hope 
Fine I guess, but would you really consider this as well produced as the rest of the album. You can hear lip smacks and the mouth opening and there’s hiss but they proudly did this in one take . . .
 
At the end of the day, you can clearly hear these nitpicks. They're nitpicks, but they're there, and you look like a fool for saying that they don't exist simply because they do. I love love LOVE NFR! but it's undeniable that 
 
HOWEVER, if you're not an audiophile or you're not consistently listening to it with high quality headphones, you would never pick up on these. This shit happens all the time across every genre - at the end of Florence + The Machine's 'What the Water Gave Me' you can hear someone moving their drumsticks, you can hear someone cough in the back of Madonna's 'Don't Cry for Me Argentina', on The Little Mermaid legacy collection random instrumental fades come up here and there.
 
It's disappointing when simple mistakes like this happen since to me, it sounds like someone hasn't given it a proper listen with the same care that's been put into making it. Maybe it's a stylistic choice, and a result of the album being made quickly, but frankly I'm not interested in having this lack of attention again on White Hot Forever simple because I like cleaner sounding records. Jack is a talented musician and will go down as a modern legend, and NFR! deserves the praise buttt
 
Yes, here here. How can anyone claim that NFR is more cohesive than HM when its music was produced by at least three different people! TNBAR has the same textual and sonic patches as Heroin and 13 Beaches. Bartender is beautiful but fuckin' random. Doin' Time is super hot but from like, literally another planet. Ultraviolence is more cohesive but sonically HM has it going on from start to end.

It's basically the same with people that constantly praise this record, call it a magnum opus (or whatever) and are not open to the fact that not every fan praise the crap out it though? Ok, werk.

You guys need to get over your sensitive selves and stop selectively clutching your pearls. It all comes down to personal taste. I still very much consider myself a fan even though I think her last two records have been really lackluster (in different ways, but still very lackluster!). NFR is obviously a great record, and I'm glad she's finally got good reviews, but it doesn't change how much this record doesn't do anything to me. I have the right to regurgitate the same comment if I feel like it, just like there are people on this sub that basically have nothing but praise for this record, and do just like I do on a daily basis (and good for them honestly!). 
Lana ain't no diety, not everything she does is going to please everyone, and it's honestly a good thing. She's not immune to criticism.

thanks for the good laugh too hun, Ultraviolence and Honeymoon are miles ahead from NFR in terms of cohesiveness and soundscape AND that's that on that.

Where does this crap about Dan Auerbach being a macho man comes from? Last time I checked he literally fought for Lana to release Ultraviolence against execs at Interscope?? They both had nothing but good thing to say about each other from that time period. Sometimes having a little bit of a challenge in the studio is good for you, not always having a yes man agreeing with your every decisions. 
You're just pissed because Dan was actually able to create something Jack did not on NFR: an intricate, atmospheric and cohesive soundscape.
 
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

I honestly cannot with the person that said that both Dan Auerbach and Rick Ruben are washed up like...
 
They might be washed up to you, but at least they don't put (alleged) amateur-ish mistakes/flaws make the final cut to add so call "charm" to a track (or to a certain extent: a whole album).
 
The audacity!

If she wants to achieve that sound there's someone she needs to bring back and someone she needs to leave on the way side.

Imagine thinking we do not listen to this album almost on a daily basis... I cannot

Just because, me, or other people do not like certain aspects of the album and think that this critical acclaim thing is bullshit, do you honestly think we hate the album from start to finish??
 
There are obviously skips and cringe moments (both lyrically and production wise) on this album, but it still a decent record.
 
Criticizing and hating: learn the difference!

Real Instruments

"malicious propaganga" I can't with you Jack Jared   remember how you got almost banned because of
 
And you 3 Jack stans need to realize not everyone is onboard with what Lana went for (and is apparently still going for for Wet Hot American Summer), no matter how much you keep mentioning Pitchfork reviews and Metacritic scores.

Imagine thinking we do not listen to this album almost on a daily basis... I cannot

Just because, me, or other people do not like certain aspects of the album and think that this critical acclaim thing is bullshit, do you honestly think we hate the album from start to finish??
 
There are obviously skips and cringe moments (both lyrically and production wise) on this album, but it still a decent record.
 
Criticizing and hating: learn the difference!

If she's soooooooo invested into her new music why is she barely performing said music then?
 

Here's a thing Jared, all lot of people think the production on NFR is literally the most lackluster and bland of all her albums. You guys can try to convince yourself that the production/mastering amateur mistakes were intentional and add to the so called "charm" of the record, but it ain't it. Jack is not the musical genius you make out to be, and that's that.
 
Here's another too, accolades don't mean crap. Critics echo one another, and this happen to be Lana's least controversial album to date and we're past the days of Lana being considered a manufactured no talent Daddie's little girl. People (even her harshest critics) now consider her an interesting artist. 1+1 always equals 2.

Imagine thinking we do not listen to this album almost on a daily basis... I cannot

Just because, me, or other people do not like certain aspects of the album and think that this critical acclaim thing is bullshit, do you honestly think we hate the album from start to finish??
 
There are obviously skips and cringe moments (both lyrically and production wise) on this album, but it still a decent record.
 
Criticizing and hating: learn the difference!

Here's a thing Jared, all lot of people think the production on NFR is literally the most lackluster and bland of all her albums. You guys can try to convince yourself that the production/mastering amateur mistakes were intentional and add to the so called "charm" of the record, but it ain't it. Jack is not the musical genius you make out to be, and that's that.
 
Here's another too, accolades don't mean crap. Critics echo one another, and this happen to be Lana's least controversial album to date and we're past the days of Lana being considered a manufactured no talent Daddie's little girl. People (even her harshest critics) now consider her an interesting artist. 1+1 always equals 2.

"malicious propaganga" I can't with you Jack Jared   remember how you got almost banned because of
 
And you 3 Jack stans need to realize not everyone is onboard with what Lana went for (and is apparently still going for for Wet Hot American Summer), no matter how much you keep mentioning Pitchfork reviews and Metacritic scores.

Imagine thinking we do not listen to this album almost on a daily basis... I cannot

Just because, me, or other people do not like certain aspects of the album and think that this critical acclaim thing is bullshit, do you honestly think we hate the album from start to finish??
 
There are obviously skips and cringe moments (both lyrically and production wise) on this album, but it still a decent record.
 
Criticizing and hating: learn the difference!

Imagine thinking we do not listen to this album almost on a daily basis... I cannot

Just because, me, or other people do not like certain aspects of the album and think that this critical acclaim thing is bullshit, do you honestly think we hate the album from start to finish??
 
There are obviously skips and cringe moments (both lyrically and production wise) on this album, but it still a decent record.
 
Criticizing and hating: learn the difference!

Imagine thinking we do not listen to this album almost on a daily basis... I cannot

Just because, me, or other people do not like certain aspects of the album and think that this critical acclaim thing is bullshit, do you honestly think we hate the album from start to finish??
 
There are obviously skips and cringe moments (both lyrically and production wise) on this album, but it still a decent record.
 
Criticizing and hating: learn the difference!

i really do not think that any of us are convincing anyone to not listen to the album...i actually love them album but does that mean i can't be *slightly* critical of it? Once again - "critically acclaimed" is bullshit for the most part, so you can get the delusional thoughts out of your head now...

Here's a thing Jared, all lot of people think the production on NFR is literally the most lackluster and bland of all her albums. You guys can try to convince yourself that the production/mastering amateur mistakes were intentional and add to the so called "charm" of the record, but it ain't it. Jack is not the musical genius you make out to be, and that's that.
 
Here's another too, accolades don't mean crap. Critics echo one another, and this happen to be Lana's least controversial album to date and we're past the days of Lana being considered a manufactured no talent Daddie's little girl. People (even her harshest critics) now consider her an interesting artist. 1+1 always equals 2.

Here's a thing Jared, all lot of people think the production on NFR is literally the most lackluster and bland of all her albums. You guys can try to convince yourself that the production/mastering amateur mistakes were intentional and add to the so called "charm" of the record, but it ain't it. Jack is not the musical genius you make out to be, and that's that.
 
Here's another too, accolades don't mean crap. Critics echo one another, and this happen to be Lana's least controversial album to date and we're past the days of Lana being considered a manufactured no talent Daddie's little girl. People (even her harshest critics) now consider her an interesting artist. 1+1 always equals 2.

It's basically the same with people that constantly praise this record, call it a magnum opus (or whatever) and are not open to the fact that not every fan praise the crap out it though? Ok, werk.