Kommander

love everything I read here. I guess pre-BTD material would be interesting to study, though I don't think it is as spiritually infused as some of her later work, and I'm only familiar with AKA and her accoustic stuff. I'm not educated enough to develop on the whole soul/ego reccurent theme, but I think it has always been, in some degree, present in her work. Romantic relationships weren't used as metaphors like her more recent work : the whole thing seems to be more focused on establishing her identity and values, as well as her relationship with the inner and the outside, which lead up to this "inner world" she's talking about, ther relationship with God. I guess it also created a new form of dialogue between her and her men, which put the emphasis on their relations and the "ego/soul" discussion, whereas in her oldest songs, especially in AKA, love affairs seemed to be more of a platform for her to express images and visions of herself, name-dropping even more cultural references, guys disappearing behind stereotypical images.
 
Her interest in time (proeminent, as she's about to release a song based on Burnt Norton), is also visible in Lana's first works : the profusion of names, references to places, people, countries, the abundance of nicknames she gives to her characters and to herself, the collisions between autobiographical and completly fictionnal events or feelings... and not to mention the numerous musical influences on the record from psyche americana to some electro beats on "Brite Lites", create this "time free" haze. Nothing and everything is true and a fiction at the same time, frozen in a mix of movement and stillness ; always possibilities, dreams, juxtaposed to real thoughts and stories. Even AKA's title, while being what it is for artistic and commercial motives, is another proof of the abstract notion that is Lizzy's self in the record. This is the place  where her music got really soulful, with her experience of deeply emotional or even religious-like snapshots, like in "Oh Say Can You See" or obviously in "Pawn Shop Blues" and "Disco", where she tries to establish her relationship with God. At the end of the whole discussion, she comes up with her prime ideas about herself and the world, which she uses now in her new records.
 
Some of her main musical inspirations, especially Cat Power in her early days, share this spiritual quality in their songs and imagery, but I think she also creates, kind of consciously, the strongest oxymoronic pact (idk how to translate it properly in English, but it's basically autofiction) that I came across in modern popular music, sending mixed messages about her songs not being that serious and deep while making 10mn long "autobiographical" videos about her ambigious past using cultural and biblical references. It enhances the cult quality that's part of her image as a pop music figure, and ends up being another bit of her ethearal personnality.

I would also say, because she's been referencing the Midwest/her country life a lot recently with a tinge of nostalgia (and even in songs like I Talk to Jesus), "our place" is actually the place she used to live there that we have a few photos of, when she was still Lizzy Grant (the whole Kansas/Arkansas location situation). She lived there with some guy and I think he's one of the person she regularly references. So she's like let's pierce through time and space and come back to our place even though it might be gone (what the fuck happened here ? Where are all the Christmas lights ?)

He was an eccentric jazz artist with a small but cult following which allowed him to pursue a lifelong career despite all his idiosyncrasies. So maybe she harkens back to her Lizzy Grant days : yes it felt small (the budget, the scope, the audience), she had a very specific aesthetic which made her an original but it was on her plane, she had it under control every time...

SCREAMING

No super deep analysis here, but to me, she's comparing herself to the forgotten tunnel. Her inner beauty/personality is like the "mosaic ceilings, painted tiles on the wall" of the tunnel, but no man has wanted to explore her inner beauty/personality. They suppress it instead, just like the walls that form the structure of the tunnel but are covered with the mosaic painted tiles on the inside ("Handmade beauty sealed up by two man-made walls"). 
 
No men have cared enough to actually get to know the real her. She wants to know when it's her turn for a man to actually love her for her ("When's it gonna be my turn?") The suppression and apathy around her true self causes her to lose confidence in herself, relying on sex and his supposed love to make her love herself again ("Fuck me to death, love me until I love myself").
 
The woman in the second verse feels like another metaphor for Lana and the tunnel. She sings Hotel California, not because she enjoys it, but because she thinks it's what men want from her and will lure them in enough to want to know her inner beauty. 

DONT FORGET ME…
like the tunnel under ocean boulevard…..
DONT FORGET ME…..
 

i think lana is the tunnel, with her beauty n worth dimmed by 2 man-made walls (maybe the men in her life, maybe the public). the act of releasing the song itself is a way to ensure that no one forgets about the the tunnel (lana) 

This also sounds like she's describing a coffin. As all living and functioning things meet their end in the ground and are eventually forgotten.
 
Don't forget me 

I’m a midwestern girlie and I literally just went to the A&W chain for lunch today  Her midwestern chokehold hasn’t fully died yet

mood board
 

idc about the pastor sermon cuz it gives me ethel cain's family tree intro and that's such a good song. i'll still be streaming the interlude. 

I'm shaking I can't even type placing me pre-orders now x

Welcome to the Did you know that there’s a tunnel under Ocean Blvd Pre-Release Thread
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2. Did you know that there’s a tunnel under Ocean Blvd 
3. Sweet
4. AW
5. Judah Smith Interlude
6. Candy Necklace
7. Jon Batiste Interlude
8. Kintsugi
9. Fingertips
10. Paris, Texas
11. Grandfather Please Stand On The Shoulders Of My Father While He’s Deep-Sea Fishing
12. Let The Light In (feat. Father John Misty)
13. Margaret (feat. Bleachers)
14. Fishtail
15. Peppers (feat. Tommy Genesis)
16. Taco Truck x VB
 
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it has a similar vibe to If You Lie Down With Me - does anyone else think that?

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Well that escalated quickly

1st time in 5 years she didn't write a love song

He was an eccentric jazz artist with a small but cult following which allowed him to pursue a lifelong career despite all his idiosyncrasies. So maybe she harkens back to her Lizzy Grant days : yes it felt small (the budget, the scope, the audience), she had a very specific aesthetic which made her an original but it was on her plane, she had it under control every time...

love everything I read here. I guess pre-BTD material would be interesting to study, though I don't think it is as spiritually infused as some of her later work, and I'm only familiar with AKA and her accoustic stuff. I'm not educated enough to develop on the whole soul/ego reccurent theme, but I think it has always been, in some degree, present in her work. Romantic relationships weren't used as metaphors like her more recent work : the whole thing seems to be more focused on establishing her identity and values, as well as her relationship with the inner and the outside, which lead up to this "inner world" she's talking about, ther relationship with God. I guess it also created a new form of dialogue between her and her men, which put the emphasis on their relations and the "ego/soul" discussion, whereas in her oldest songs, especially in AKA, love affairs seemed to be more of a platform for her to express images and visions of herself, name-dropping even more cultural references, guys disappearing behind stereotypical images.
 
Her interest in time (proeminent, as she's about to release a song based on Burnt Norton), is also visible in Lana's first works : the profusion of names, references to places, people, countries, the abundance of nicknames she gives to her characters and to herself, the collisions between autobiographical and completly fictionnal events or feelings... and not to mention the numerous musical influences on the record from psyche americana to some electro beats on "Brite Lites", create this "time free" haze. Nothing and everything is true and a fiction at the same time, frozen in a mix of movement and stillness ; always possibilities, dreams, juxtaposed to real thoughts and stories. Even AKA's title, while being what it is for artistic and commercial motives, is another proof of the abstract notion that is Lizzy's self in the record. This is the place  where her music got really soulful, with her experience of deeply emotional or even religious-like snapshots, like in "Oh Say Can You See" or obviously in "Pawn Shop Blues" and "Disco", where she tries to establish her relationship with God. At the end of the whole discussion, she comes up with her prime ideas about herself and the world, which she uses now in her new records.
 
Some of her main musical inspirations, especially Cat Power in her early days, share this spiritual quality in their songs and imagery, but I think she also creates, kind of consciously, the strongest oxymoronic pact (idk how to translate it properly in English, but it's basically autofiction) that I came across in modern popular music, sending mixed messages about her songs not being that serious and deep while making 10mn long "autobiographical" videos about her ambigious past using cultural and biblical references. It enhances the cult quality that's part of her image as a pop music figure, and ends up being another bit of her ethearal personnality.

Madame Figaro. - Do you have the feeling that the image is always as important as the music? 
Lana Del Rey. - with the first record, I didn't have the feeling that I interested people musically. The project was dictated thus more by the images. This time, I hope that the public won't focus on appearances. I felt controlled by the blurred perception that people had of me, but I don't feel dependent from it now.
 
Your voice appears to be less fragile, as if you were fighting against elements, in particular against the guitars which Dan Auerbach (singer and guitarist of the Black Keys) raised against you. 
I feel like a warrior. A tired warrior, but a warrior. The difference was that I was singing live, in the same room as the band, and recording everything in a single take. It sounded more natural. We kept numerous imperfections. I worked with the same team, began to produce in Electric Lady Studios, in New York, where I met Dan. Then I went to Nashville during six weeks to restructure the songs.
 
Does the record's name, "Ultraviolence", mean that you were not prepared for the success of the previous album? Are you ready now ?
Being rather a solitary kind of person, I don't feel more prepared, but at least I'm fighting. The last three years were very hard, they changed me. Even writing became difficult to me, because I was too much surrouded. When everything around you works as the same speed as you and bores you, suddenly the energy of a meeting an unknown can be rather powerful to give you back the desire and the idea of a melody. These moments became rare, I don't live that many fantastic experiences. For that, I need to take my old car, drive to the beach, and wait.
 
It seems obvious that you belong to the west coast and to all its myths, with your very cinematographic writting style for example. Is it a source of inspiration? 
Yes, undoubtedly, I see images when I write. Visions of future, colors. And I hope to have numerous facets. There is always a dichotomy in me. Concerning the cinema, Some people already proposed me roles in some independent movies shot in Laurel Canyon, set in the 1960s and 1970, but they weren't released. But acting, playing are natural extensions of my work. I would like to shoot with Darren Aronofsky. Or Hitchcock if he was still alive. My inspiration's also very linked to the history and the energy of Los Angeles, the characters I met, like my tattooer, Mark Mahoney. I like the "early 90s" feeling of the city, which evokes a kind of lost cinematography. Just like the spectacular landscapes of L.A. like Pacific Coast Highway, the shoreline.
 
Your albums abound in very melancholic contrasts. You seem to hide a secret under skin...
I try to remain reasonable and healthy, but, inside, I carry many contradictions. I have peaceful moments and a great deal of torments. It is tempestuous. As I adore the color of the words, I chose "Ultraviolence" as a title for the sound that it creates under the tongue, but also for the juxtaposition of a luxurious tone with the hardness of "violence". It pleases me.
 
When we listened to your album for the first time, we thought of rock, but is it more complex than that? 
I am delighted to hear that, even if the main influence is rock, in its most classic shape, in the style of The Eagles or Bob Seger. In fact, I wonder if it is not the ideal music to drive. (Laughter). There's an undisciplined and wild mood in this record. Besides, some were not very happy to discover that there was also a kind of a jazz tone in "Shades of Cool" (EDITOR'S NOTE : for us, the most beautiful song on the album). According to me, everything comes from the alchemy created between me and Dan Auerbach and the group. When I hear really fat and gritty electric guitars, it reminds me of music festivals, I picture an outside stage.
 
Weren't you afraid that this indie side made the record unsaleable?  A little bit, yes.   And you seem to be proud of it
Yes. (she laughs). I shouldn't, but it means that my work conveys exactly what I wanted to transmit. We took care and polished all the songs so that they really sound like me, to respect my philosophy, which is to compose songs which speak to me at first.   So, what could be seen as diva poses is in fact perfectionism. What pleases you so much in the act of creation?  I care a lot about my songs. When I was in Nashville, I rented a farm and, every day, I sat down for hours and listened to the band : I was in my place. When it's over, I feel empty and I wait for new signs. I've always looked for signs in everything. I think ceaselessly of death, the concept of mortality is a vagueness that is constantly threatening. I find it to be heavy, crushing, really. What is the purpose? And what if there's nothing after? I believe in a power bigger than us, who can guide us and help us to find the answers. But it is difficult to perceive it when you are constantly in movement.   Are you happy? 
Not really. It is difficult to be happy, I always feel a kind of malaise, and I'm stuck, always expecting something.I am a little disorientated. When I finish something, I am very annoyed…       I might correct some stuff.   Source : http://www.lana-delrey.fr/2014/06/photos-itw-lana-del-rey-en-couverture-du-madame-figaro.html

He was an eccentric jazz artist with a small but cult following which allowed him to pursue a lifelong career despite all his idiosyncrasies. So maybe she harkens back to her Lizzy Grant days : yes it felt small (the budget, the scope, the audience), she had a very specific aesthetic which made her an original but it was on her plane, she had it under control every time...

He was an eccentric jazz artist with a small but cult following which allowed him to pursue a lifelong career despite all his idiosyncrasies. So maybe she harkens back to her Lizzy Grant days : yes it felt small (the budget, the scope, the audience), she had a very specific aesthetic which made her an original but it was on her plane, she had it under control every time...

I think she might have been a bernie girl earlier this year, i mean she's litteraly surrounded by bernie stans : Chuck the butch queen, her gay producers, Jonathan the veggie, Father John Misty...

There's no way any of this is real and if it is she's not going to deliver the album will be out december 5 2021 titled Insta Thots on the Pier

Hi beloved phags - I have been off the Lana loop for the past three weeks (going through my finals) ; whats up, what is the teaaaaaa