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Get a job, stream Ocean Blvd, contribute something meaningful to our society. 

Ewwwwww

they'll czech-hunt it 

Trap is fucking boring and played out let's just admit it.

The Grants is my least favourite opener, it's too la la hallelujah la la 

i personally hope she never collabs with billie or olivia  

Please no more pretencious father john musty collabs 

It would be so fun if we got some uptempo plastic pop rock bops on the next album
 

That ugly ass sparkle sound takes me out of fingertips  like it just ruins the flow and I can’t believe they put that on the mastered version of the song 

Fingertips and Kintsugi should have never been placed on the album. Should have stayed as they are, as poems and placed in her next poetry book. 
 
I know these two songs are everyone's favorites in the fandom, but they don't work well at all as songs. 
 
 

Paris, Texas is the Video Games of this album .
- Beautiful classic distinguishable melody. 
- Lyrically thrives in simplicity [No overly complicated weird word jargons, not too wordy, no swearing, no offensive words (h!gh, f*uvk, de@th, wh0re, r@pe, wh!te woman, c0v!d)].
- Unique beautiful attention grabbing vocal performance. The moody deep voice in Video Games is nothing like you’ve ever heard in mainstream music. It was chilling. A head turner. The same with Paris, Texas in the opposite direction. Those very French? theatrical operatic high voice isn’t heard much in mainstream music.
Instant timeless classic .
 
Interestingly, I think “Yes To Heaven” tick those boxes as well. Simple inoffensive lyrics, beautiful melodies = classic. In fact, most timeless hits fall into that category .

Can we discuss what the creative proposal for the album to end with VB must have been?
 
My theory: maybe the song was always dedicated to Lana's teenage boyfriend, Aaron. When Taco Truck transitions to VB, the lines imply that Lana was waking up from a dream with that past in her youth with him, so "Venice Bitch starts in her head" and everything that refers to her boyfriend and her adolescence, such as "incident" at the lake - never die, not tonight, LAKE PLACIIID! 
 
What is your opinion?

Sadly the album is not hitting as much for me as when it first released thinking maybe the leaks distracted me, I’m gonna try and listen full-through again

Fingertips becoming my most played song on the album even tho I low-key kinda shat on it when I heard the l**k 

My Ocean Boulevard Redemption / Purgatory Theory: Ocean Boulevard is a su*cide note or story/journey of su*cide and redemption from Lana Del Rey (or a character she’s embodying and adapting to her story)
 
The Grants: I don’t remember who wrote this, but someone in this thread earlier discussed how the “so you say there’s a chance for us?” could refer to Lana reflecting on how there may still be a chance for her family line to pass on to heaven and break karmic curses - hence the “I’m doing the hard stuff, doing my time, doing it for us, for the family line” - perhaps this song is about the character/Lana reflecting on the work she’s done to end karmic curses before she leaves the world - she’s reflecting on what memories she will take when she leaves
 
Did You Know That There’s A Tunnel Under Ocean Boulevard: “I can’t help but feel someone like my body marred my soul” - an ancestor (like her body) marred or cursed her soul. She’s now doomed to pass on, she feels, like those who have recently passed in her family. “When’s it gonna be my turn?” - used to be a line that I thought meant, when will it be her turn to find happiness / fame / love, etc. but perhaps she’s wondering when this curse will reach her and end her. It could also mean she knows, tongue-in-cheek, she’ll never find that love or happiness she wants due to the karmic past. As such, she decides to go before it reaches her - she indulges: “fuck me to death, love me until I love myself” - she has committed to death and reminds everyone not to forget her. - the Tunnel can be a metaphor of su*cide too, in that, what it was meant for / it’s purpose has effectively killed it - the passage of time and the constant use of the tunnel’s transport (it’s purpose) has led to its end / closure. The Tunnel can also be a metaphor for a coffin (under Ocean Boulevard , under the ground)
 
Sweet: “you can find me where no one will be” - the character is telling us where she will go to die. Where no one alive will be, in the tunnel, in the woods, in the valley, in the north country, barefeet and free; “do you contemplate where we came from?” - have you thought like me where we go, what created us? “Do you want children, do you want to marry me?” - she asks because these things won’t happen - she feels this karmic curse won’t allow her to find those things. “If I’m not there, come to my house” - when she’s gone, she’ll go back home (in Paris Texas, later in this theory, Lana is in purgatory and returns home)
 
A&W: Lana thinks of her past one last time before passing, discusses what may have led her to this point - “do you think I give a damn what I do after years of just hearing them talking?” - she indulges one last time in sex.
 
Judah Smith: self-explanatory: she turns to God. She reflects on lust and idolatry.
 
Candy Necklaces: she turns to her doomed relationship, and reflects on its self-destructive nature. She indulges one last time in drugs. “Sitting on the sofa, feelin’ super su*cidal” - in this theory, the repetition of “Candy Necklaces” at the end of the song is when she kills herself and slowly fades.
 
Jon Batiste: another illusion to su*cide: “I’m feelin’ early”, her and Jon are dancing in purgatory, the interlude feels like a fever dream because it is, it’s the transport between life and death, she’s passing through the tunnel.
 
Kintsugi: (please don’t get offended by this one, I’m trying my best to be extremely sensitive in explaining this - I understand that this is an emotional song about the death of Lana’s loved ones and her grief, but I think there’s a tie to this story) - “there’s a certain point that the body can’t come back from” - the character/Lana’s lover is now reflecting on her death and passing and expresses their grief. “Daddy, I miss them, I’m in the mountains” - she is reflecting on how much she misses everyone she loves from purgatory, she has turned to the mountains (referring back to the nature in Sweet, expressing where she will be when she’s passed)
 
Fingertips: Lana looks back on her life whilst in purgatory, she is lost and trying to determine how to be saved to reach heaven. “It wasn’t my idea the cocktail of things that twist neurons inside, but without them I’d die. They say there’s irony in the music, it’s a tragedy” - death by drugs/pill. The irony is that she’s dead. “If I take my life, find your astral body, put it into my arms” - another reference to su*cide
 
Paris, Texas: Lana is travelling through purgatory - she has left the mountains and is visiting various places to find her closure / escape purgatory - making amends, saying goodbyes. She visits Paris with a suitcase and has to leave because that’s not her place to rest. “When you know, you know. It’s time to go”. She now visits Spain, but only has a notebook - her worldly possessions are leaving her, her spirit is beginning to make peace with leaving purgatory. She visits friends in Alabama to say goodbye. “It’s time to leave, like the summer breeze” - her spirit is giving signs that she’s there through nature. “When every star is bright, brighter than you are, it’s time to go” - the stars (passed ones) who shine brighter are the ones who have found their closure in Paris, Spain, Alabama, etc. She finally realizes she needs to go home. She visits and her lover has moved on, she calls to no one. Now that he has fully grieved and mourned her loss, it’s another sign that her time on earth in purgatory is ending and she must call to God to move on. “You’re home, when you’re alone” - making peace with oneness, solitude, letting go of people in the real world. “When you’re right, you’re right, even when you’re wrong” - Lana reflects on her life and how things that felt right at the time, might have been wrong. Also, every place she visited that may have felt “right”, was wrong and it wasn’t meant for her to rest.
 
Grandfather:  In this monologue, the climax, Lana confesses to God her truth - she wasn’t manufactured, she’s good in spirit, warm-bodied, a deity wrapped in white. Regrettably, a white woman. During this plea, she calls to God to please send her three butterflies to let her know he’s there as she’s travelled enough and needs to know he’s listening. She’s making peace with her “sins” and what people shamed her for and confesses her good intentions and pleads to God to feel it in bones, hear it in her poetry, her music, etc. At the end, the butterflies appear and Lana ascends to heaven.
 
Let The Light In: “Look at us, you and me, back at it again” - Lana is indulging in utopia, embracing her family, essentially this is the Heaven track.
 
Margaret: the final part of the story, Lana looks down to Jack and Margaret as an angel / spirit and is able to now pass her truth and writing on to others (“This is a simple song, gonna write it for a friend”) . The end of the song also feels like the perfect closer / credit roll to the story.
 
BONUS: In Fishtail, Lana reflects on how her lover was distant in her life - he’d never even come to braid her hair! He was absent. “Palm trees in black and white” - this world of the past is faded, it’s a memory. He wanted her sadder. In Peppers, Lana reflects on the true feelings she felt of being in LOVE. “Hands on your knees, I’m Angelina Jolie” - she tells the world to bow, get on their knees and put their hands on her knees, grieve and mourn at she grave because she was a cultural icon like Angelina Jolie. Maybe this refers to her having found true love in Heaven,  which fits as Peppers came before (past love). In Taco Truck, Lana meets her boyfriend at the taco truck, has transcended as Lanita and is now telling the fucking press to spin her death however they may, print it however they want in the cover story, fuck you from the afterlife, I know you always hated me. (Also reflects on how stars are treated post-humously).
 
We return to Venice Bitch, a simpler time, a peaceful and serene moment in Lana’s life, but this time it’s a fucking party because she’s living it up in Lake Placid. The transition between Taco Truck and VB might indicate all of this was a dream, hence the woman explaining she had a nap and had this dream… If this were all framed to be a true story about Lana’s su*cidal ideation, this could be her letting us know she’s better now - “get high, drop acid, never die, not tonight”, she’s realized who she is and chooses to live on. If we were her’s, we’d be jealous of her love. Signin’ off, bang bang kiss kiss <3

Well, at least with "I'm a sad girl" I knew what the hell she's singing about. 
 
When she repeats "Candy neckleces," I have no f-ing idea. 
 
So, since you're the lyric expert, minding explaining that refrain?

That's a refrain and UV has to be her album where most of the refrains are just her repeating the title, which isn't a problem per say but really no comparing the two
 
 

Haha, okay, I see your "I'm a sad girll" and raise you "You wanted me sadder., you wanted me sadder" 
 
Candy necklaces x infinity
 
"When I look back, tracing fingertips over plastic bags". 

Girl OB has songs which are so much better lyrically like pls they're too many to list out.
They aren't like
 
"I'm a Saad girl ima baaaad girl"
 
"Guns n roses x infinity"
 
Summer bummer

why can she not be both sweet and a whore? and i feel like a&w has a bit of disillusionment that comes from realizing someone doesn't see you as a life partnwr but just as a body to use which makes it following sweet make perfect sense

i love the album, but i agree with your boyfriend. Bb'a and ob's lyrics are her laziest so far. All previous albums are legs better lyrically.

love ur analysis but sweet carolina is not yawn to me personally  

I think she's talking about the breakup with Sean that she's mentioned multiple times.. She said it felt like the world was ending for her, so her heart was "cracked open" and she sleeps through spring and needs support from her friends in BB perhaps bc she needs support from them when she thinks about him,, Just a theory tho idk?

I agree, BB was the album that she first talked about the issues she expanded on Ocean BLVD. The first time we heard about mommy issues, for example. Also in BBS "karmic lineage", where she says whatever happening to her, whatever critism she's geting might be because of what her ancestors did.
 
On a side note, I know it's a speculation but Cherry Blossom might be talking about a dead child.
 
Also could Blue Banister's "Spring, I sleep, Heaven knows" and Kintsugi's "by the third of March, I was cracked open" be related?

i guess, but story-wise i do think BB explains before (besides fingertips, that's an explanatory song if i've ever heard one).. but i think in her head her references to things in her songs are much clearer than they end up being to the general public.. blue banisters definitely has a rawness ocean blvd doesnt imo. could it be that the rawness in question comes from lazy mixing ? yes. am i convinced that's what it is though? no. lyrically though i do think lots of the tracks provide "info" (maybe it's a stretch but) and try to "explain".. it just is subtle.. my conception of blue banisters as an "explanatory" album is something like:
 
Text Book - mentions and sort of explains her "daddy issues" stereotype people wonder about.. may mention her mother? ("then there was the issue of her").. the BLM line could perhaps "explain" the racism thing people felt but that's a stretch..
 
Blue Banisters - mentions her yearning for children, that she's been disappointed by a man, mentions her family. beautiful title track that mentions themes she feels strongly about without going into too much detail. pretty metaphor about the seasons changing she uses to paint the picture that time is moving and she is changing too with time but that hole in her heart that her women try to heal (perhaps by telling her to write notes without sending them a la sweet) is still there. Heartbreaking and pretty song imo
 
Arcadia - interlaced with references to the city she comes from and has been popularized within, this song does "explain" things. the outro says it all for me: "they built me up three-hundred feet tall just to tear me down so I'm leaving with nothing but laughter, and this town Arcadia.. finding my way to you, i'm leavin' them as I was, five-foot-eight, Western-bound.. Plus the hate that they gave.. By the way, thanks for that, on the way, I'll pray for you, But you'll need a miracle, America".. 
 
Trio Interlude - Idk. Fuck Clay and his bachelor bimbo tweeting ass but this shit bops
 
Black Bathing Suit - mentions her body in a positive light. could be interpreted as an "explanation" for the publics bizarre fascination with people's weight gain.. could be seen as a positive message like.. nah idc about the public i make money off you guys (we'll have the last laugh about it, they're fucking broke and we're laughing about it).. but at the end of the day it's not rly our business and weight gain can be medical so it isn't good to speculate publicly online (do me and my friends speculate about every little thing lana does in private, of course we do, it's normal)
 
If You Lie Down With Me - This is where the album takes a break from the explanations and goes into relationship songs. It's a Cute song from lanas past. Maybe tells the story of part of one of lanas relationships. Doesn't really provide the info lana talks about overtly
 
Beautiful - Picasso deserved better.. But in all honesty this song is explanatory, it's her message against feigning happiness.. could be seen in tandem with lanas comments on peoples perception of her being one of feigned fragility.. Lana searches for and can make beautiful things out of sadness (her music).. Pretty message, boring execution
 
Violets for Roses - Continues the previous song's message. Fuck u sean 
 
Dealer - Lana goes from expressing her frustration gracefully to really feeling her anger, directed at a guy but delivered with enough power to keep the lights on in a poor city, it feels like a more universal message: "I DONT WANNA LIVEEEEEEE" says it all for me. she even says "and ill explain it" in the song.. Who took ur money lana i'll jump them babe
 
Thunder - Lana still mad at men as lana often is. The main message here being "Just leave me", which is a new message for Lana. This is where the album goes from boys back to explanatory.
 
Wildflower Wildfire: By FAR the most explanatory song on the record.. Lana makes a powerful statement acknowledging her past and why she might be the way she is and also making a defiant statement: that she will be different, better: "But I learn it from you.. not to turn into a wildfire..". Also makes a huge statement about her medication, something i suspect to be a huge aspect of her life that she only started singing about at this point in her career, her mental health problems and the affects of medications often used to treat mental health issues. Lana goes on to sing and explain this in the next track and in future songs like fingertips.
 
Nectar of the Gods: Continues singing about her medication's affect on her life, using drugs as a metaphor.. The chorus imo could be displaying why lana needs this "nectar of the gods": "I get wild on you baby, I get wild and fucking crazy like you never knew".. "Im on the freeway racing at a million" (talking about her thoughts perhaps). At least that's my theory. This song's placement is definitely intentional and lana wove it into this record for a reason.
 
Living Legend: Unsure.
 
Cherry Blossom: Could address/explain her yearning for children, her sadness of not having a proper mother figure. It just really sounds like it's meant to be sung to a child and I can't really see it another way.
 
Sweet Carolina: Yawn.
 
anyways that was long-winded but when she says BB is for "info" i think she means it in a more veiled way like what i've written above. ocean blvd is more overt in its messaging so it seems less.. idk.. important? ik that's not the right word for it but it's hard to explain. I think lana did this in a hidden way purposefully.. perhaps bc she was in a more vulnerable mindset and only felt more comfortable being overt on songs like fingertips later on in her career? only lana can answer some questions but that's my conception of what she means when she says it's an explanatory album bc i feel like lots of ppl don't agree