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I think it is far, far deeper than just the media/paparazzi/fans
 
I think the proverbial monster Elizabeth created is Lana Del Rey
And I think (as my post in the Terence Loves you thread and elsewhere) says, Elizabeth might just be doing something
three others have time and again been said (rumored  to have done, and two of which are perhaps the two biggest names of all to her.
Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison (and the third being Andy Kaufman).
Only in this case, there is actual rebirth.
(and I am not a fan of the younger people saying each album is an era, however, end of an era may indeed be the birth of a new one.
 
(and if not, makes for a great movie, after all, In Hollywood... where everything is anything and anything can happen and often does
 
So in the album cover it is Elizabeth in photo her sister took, much like a regular person has a relative with them taking a picture), riding past the homes of the stars, stars like Lana Del Rey.
 
I am so thankful that I am along for the ride and will be anxiously awaiting the next chapter.
Can't think of anyone else ever, who could actually pull this off or at least get anyone (in this case me) to believe so much that it is
Much like Richard(Christopher Reeve back when he was young and beautiful) believed and Elise (Jane Seymour back when she was young & beautiful), not only believed, but said "is it you" in Somewhere in Time 1980 until the bad penny showed up (and what a soundtrack that had).
 
because in Holllllllywood as the song goes (and should be a bonus cut)

So Terrence is David Bowie (nee:Jones) brother who inspired David to get into beat poetry and beat authors and American rock and roll
and who was schizophrenic (double personality) and hospitalized around 1970 and who committed suicide in the mid 1980 jumping in front of a train.
 
The song makes now, total sense.
 
Cooler than cool.
Elizabeth Grant's mind is like a walking encyclopedia

So Terrence is David Bowie (nee:Jones) brother who inspired David to get into beat poetry and beat authors and American rock and roll
and who was schizophrenic (double personality) and hospitalized around 1970 and who committed suicide in the mid 1980 jumping in front of a train.
 
The song makes now, total sense.
 
Cooler than cool.
Elizabeth Grant's mind is like a walking encyclopedia

Ziggy Stardust no more,  David Bowie forever
 
Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys.
And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow.
 
Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it)
 
The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing.
 
With the end comes the beginning.
 
and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang.
David Jones aka Davy Jones.
Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie
because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury).
 
or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"
 
Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared).
Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory)
or not.
 
Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage
 
Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018
Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant
 
I'll be there.

Ziggy Stardust no more,  David Bowie forever
 
Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys.
And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow.
 
Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it)
 
The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing.
 
With the end comes the beginning.
 
and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang.
David Jones aka Davy Jones.
Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie
because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury).
 
or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"
 
Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared).
Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory)
or not.
 
Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage
 
Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018
Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant
 
I'll be there.

Ziggy Stardust no more,  David Bowie forever
 
Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys.
And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow.
 
Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it)
 
The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing.
 
With the end comes the beginning.
 
and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang.
David Jones aka Davy Jones.
Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie
because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury).
 
or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"
 
Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared).
Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory)
or not.
 
Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage
 
Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018
Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant
 
I'll be there.

Ziggy Stardust no more,  David Bowie forever
 
Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys.
And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow.
 
Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it)
 
The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing.
 
With the end comes the beginning.
 
and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang.
David Jones aka Davy Jones.
Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie
because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury).
 
or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"
 
Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared).
Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory)
or not.
 
Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage
 
Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018
Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant
 
I'll be there.

This is so retro, like Jerry Brown, circa 1992 when he almost became the Democratic nominee with zero money and just regular people calling his 1-800 number and donating
ten or twenty dollars in his primary run vs. Bill Clinton. (for those that don't know or aren't from the USA-Jerry was the youngest California Governor, ran for President as a liberal Democrat 3 times) and returned decades later, to being the oldest California Gov. ever, currently in his 4th term.

Ziggy Stardust no more,  David Bowie forever
 
Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys.
And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow.
 
Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it)
 
The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing.
 
With the end comes the beginning.
 
and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang.
David Jones aka Davy Jones.
Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie
because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury).
 
or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"
 
Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared).
Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory)
or not.
 
Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage
 
Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018
Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant
 
I'll be there.

@
The song Don't let me be misunderstood, was written specific at the time for Nina Simone
but has as many reasons and interpretations as Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah (his meaning is it is an analogy for an orgasm, a rapturous orgasm)
 
But it's a cover and a song that had 3 versions of it
Nina's was a soulful jazzy blues original
The Animals did a rock version
later Santa Esmeralda had a disco version and was a major disco era hit

If Terrence is the photographer, then the title is sarcastic and can be taken the opposite-
like if Terrence were the guy in the copter
 
Terence may love her, but she don't love Terrence

Ziggy Stardust no more,  David Bowie forever
 
Brian Wilson on his site when he originally was talking about his new album, and at the time was going to have duets with Lana and Frank Ocean, he got bombarded on his facebook site with fans who wanted him to do nothing but what he already had done with the Beach Boys.
And he flat out told them sorry, but he is entitled to do whatever he wants to do. It's his life not his fans or the media's imagination of what they want nor should he be forced to stay where they first heard of him, and not let him grow.
 
Or as Lesley Gore sang "You don't own me" and "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to" (two new records for two different singers attempt to copy Lesley Gore but those two don't get it, they really don't get it)
 
The possibilities are endless, the possibilities are intriguing.
 
With the end comes the beginning.
 
and as Neil Diamond wrote and the irony is dripping "and I saw her face now I'm a believer" which the Monkees led by David Jones and Mickey Dolenz sang.
David Jones aka Davy Jones.
Irony of course being that Ziggy Stardust was , the still vital, just released a new lp a few months ago David Bowie...nee:David Davy Jones who changed his name to David Bowie
because Davy Jones was already taken years earlier. (yet the fucked up press and haters never said Bowie was inauthentic because he changed his name and style and vision many times over, or the same with Freddie Mercury).
 
or as REM sang "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"
 
Maybe the helicopter had an even deeper meaning than second thought. (after all first thought was it was a breakup song when only the lyrics were available until the video appeared).
Maybe Ultraviolence wasn't about a relationship with a person at all, and if that is so, then the 2 outliers on the album proper actually make more sense (I f'd my way to the top and money/power/glory)
or not.
 
Hollywood...where the legends keep you wanting more more more, applause long after one has left the stage
 
Coming soon to a record store near you June 2018
Rebirth. by Elizabeth Grant
 
I'll be there.

@dead against-
 
if you take the Bowie thing to its logical conclusion
 
It would mean Lana Del Rey would coming to an end and at the end will be the rebirth
 
David Bowie of course lived long and prospered for decades after Ziggy Stardust actually fell to earth (bad pun)
 
Long Live Elizabeth Grant should that be the analogy.
 
Because we were just heroes, if just for a moment.
 
Long Live David Bowie, no matter where Ziggy Stardust is today, ashes to ashes dusk to dusk
 
(this is an analogy folks)
 
btw, Bowie was in Twin Peaks wasn't he? Continuation coming end of 16 early 17.
 
The world spins.

If it was about Terrance Howard I'd laugh so hard, but love it. (Not the first time she's sung about black guys lol)
 
But its prob Terence Stamp, since he was in the movie Big Eyes.

Terrance Howard?
Terence Trent D'arby?

@-
this reeks
 
It is almost unheard of and it is akin to rape.
 
It makes suspect every single number on every single chart
 
The headline that Lana was #7 still was there 10 minutes ago on the main page (probably shortly they will change it)
 
Lana must have massively irritated someone the wrong way
 
again FUCK BILLBOARD
 
like how the Oscars ripped her off nominating something that was quickly disqualified while Young and Beautiful didn't get a nomination because that took her place

Lana should put out an edit of the Video and have the picture floating down from the sky be a copy of Billboard magazine
 
FUCK THEM.

So the single was #1 for most of the week on ITunes, and they don't count that? Does that mean those will count next week?

If so, the new methology of singles is all screwed up. Singles were suppose to keep the old method, albums the Friday.
With the chart going live Tuesday
 
Could billboard not have a clue as to what counts when?

So this puts Lana with Britney Spears in 2 female artists who got their #s removed because the powers that be didn't like it.
(Britney had a #1 taken away for a reflex move that values males over females).
 
Something very suspicious of this.
In more than 100 years of charts, this has only happened twice.

Lana should put out an edit of the Video and have the picture floating down from the sky be a copy of Billboard magazine
 
FUCK THEM.

Lana should put out an edit of the Video and have the picture floating down from the sky be a copy of Billboard magazine
 
FUCK THEM.

Lana should put out an edit of the Video and have the picture floating down from the sky be a copy of Billboard magazine
 
FUCK THEM.

People are amazingly shortsighted.
Lana has 300 songs all available to us in one form or another and while there might be a little more control over leaks now, there have been at least 3 new songs so far this year, the promise
of a brand new album, many tour dates, almost all of which will have clips taken and be available for us to watch new life performances of her songs
 
Think of artists, like, say Adele- what does she have 2 albums? 20 songs maybe 30 total songs and zippo, nothing at all. no gossip, no nothing.
Kate Bush disappears for years and years
Joni Mitchell (wishing her the best in her hours of need) basically retired years ago
 
And Lana is not trying to be in the news 24/7/365 or needing to be the star of the moment, when she is going to be the star of the 2000s, and thought of like Bob Dylan, Brian Wilson or Paul Simon or
the Beatles or the Dead. (note- all those are MALE artists in a male recording business...Lana is doing it HER WAY which is just about unheard of for a female star, who is not mass produced like
say Diana Ross was or in her early years, or Petula Clark or even Mama Cass singing songs of John Phillips. (Same with all the others).
 
Me, I am grateful for new songs when they appear, and figure Honeymoon will be released as they do nowadays, instantly and most likely in a week nothing else will, so it can debut at #1.
 
Sorry if this offends anyone.

Concept albums are like operas. (some are called rock operas, but both names convey the same thing.)
A connection from 1st song to the finale in a specifically placed order and where most songs are almost meaningless unless heard in the order presented telling the story
 
(What is Elton's "Someone saved my life tonight", if one didn't know the entire album and the meaning of the album "Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy"
Out of Elton's 40 or so albums, 3 were concept.
 
Bowie had 2 concept albums
Beatles had Sgt. Pepper's but none of the others (before that most rock/pop/soul were single based and people bought 45s more than albums)
Beach Boys Pet sounds was. All their other albums were a few singles and filler.
The Monkees album "Head" was a concept album, but none of the others
Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life
 
The legendary Klaus Nomi transcends the barriers between rock and opera and concept albums.
 
There is a reason Lana says Ultraviolence starts with Cruel World and ends with The other woman (and the rest are bonus hits.)
Most of the 300 plus songs not on records that Lana wrote are not part of concept albums, they are songs (and why most of the more recent are not part of any album itself.)
Ultraviolence would have been regardless of the using of Dan Auerbach for production
 
If one don't see it, one don't see it. That's my opinion.
It's a story. Without one song, it would be like a chapter was missing.

Concept albums are like operas. (some are called rock operas, but both names convey the same thing.)
A connection from 1st song to the finale in a specifically placed order and where most songs are almost meaningless unless heard in the order presented telling the story
 
(What is Elton's "Someone saved my life tonight", if one didn't know the entire album and the meaning of the album "Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy"
Out of Elton's 40 or so albums, 3 were concept.
 
Bowie had 2 concept albums
Beatles had Sgt. Pepper's but none of the others (before that most rock/pop/soul were single based and people bought 45s more than albums)
Beach Boys Pet sounds was. All their other albums were a few singles and filler.
The Monkees album "Head" was a concept album, but none of the others
Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life
 
The legendary Klaus Nomi transcends the barriers between rock and opera and concept albums.
 
There is a reason Lana says Ultraviolence starts with Cruel World and ends with The other woman (and the rest are bonus hits.)
Most of the 300 plus songs not on records that Lana wrote are not part of concept albums, they are songs (and why most of the more recent are not part of any album itself.)
Ultraviolence would have been regardless of the using of Dan Auerbach for production
 
If one don't see it, one don't see it. That's my opinion.
It's a story. Without one song, it would be like a chapter was missing.