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I don't think Lana is a weak !!! quite au contraire!!!  she likes to be submissive because for a moment she can let go, instead of always be in charge of everything (like she is) she admires strenght ... She longs to be desired ardently because it makes you powerful, the thought of a man that can do crazy things for you is beautiful and empowering... She wants to find a man, a strong man that can keep up with her and '' tame her''

@@letsescapelizzy   okay... I have a friend that was sexually abused as 12 year old. the monster that did this to her was someone she knew ( a close family friend), all her family knew and her mother was the only one that secretly blamed her for it  ... now she's 17 and what can I say she's been through a lot, she's suicidal and bulimic and got pregnant twice , she's attracted to the wrong dudes and so on.. and she reminds me of Lana in some weird way that I cannot pin point lol. So of course I can't prove anything because OBVIOUSLY I don't know her , BUT  she did say that most of her songs are autobioographical excetera ... but that's not enough right? because lyrics arent reliable and on some extent I have to agree with you, so you ask me where did I get this Idea from? Well first of all I found extremely sad and unusual for a 14 yo to be an alcoholic, I mean.. Apparently she comes  from a wealthy and respectable family right? So what on earth made her drink daily and why she was sent to a boarding school? what she was trying to escape  from? so I began to think the causes of so much upheaval .. She has a wonderful relationship with her dad so he has nothing to do with her problems, she's really close to her brother and sister so they too have nothing to do with anything traumatic.. but then I noticed that she never mentions her mother, so something must be off. My personal theory is that something profoundly disturbing happened to her ( it could be sexual abuse or not) and she was left with long lasting scars, she began to act erratically and her mother decided to send her somewhere else instead of dealing with her, and from that point the hostility began...  I mean really guys? we all argue with our parents, and we all have problems but would that transform us in alcolholics? AT FOURTEEN FUCKING YEARS OLD?? that's not ordinary ... and apart from that all her life is shady and purposefully concealed...  her university years are foggy and there are rumors of her being in Alabama after graduating high school.... and we all know she comes from a family with cash, so why did she lived in a trailer park for  18 months????? So that's  what produced this thread... 

say what you want, I still think she was abused by someone..

a family friend or what not

free to go somewhere else.... 

I imagine Patricia to be an uptight , no bullshit type of person... I think she doesn't understand her daughter strangeness and uniqueness

if some of you find this thread weird you can always look somewhere else.... I'm very interested not only in her music and artistic endeavors but in HER as a person.. I want to know what made her behave this way and .. yeahh... so if you find this annnoying yall free to go...  going back to the topic.. So do anyone know anything about her past for sure?

if some of you find this thread weird you can always look somewhere else.... I'm very interested not only in her music and artistic endeavors but in HER as a person.. I want to know what made her behave this way and .. yeahh... so if you find this annnoying yall free to go...  going back to the topic.. So do anyone know anything about her past for sure?

I imagine Patricia to be an uptight , no bullshit type of person... I think she doesn't understand her daughter strangeness and uniqueness

@@Valentino fair points... But I can't help but wonder ... And my sixth sense says there's something more than meets the eye

I don't think Lana is a weak !!! quite au contraire!!!  she likes to be submissive because for a moment she can let go, instead of always be in charge of everything (like she is) she admires strenght ... She longs to be desired ardently because it makes you powerful, the thought of a man that can do crazy things for you is beautiful and empowering... She wants to find a man, a strong man that can keep up with her and '' tame her''

@@Rayse I didn't think she was sexually abused by her mother, I think that she was abused by some family friend or something of that kind, a male figure and that maybe she developed some unhealthy attachment to this man.  And I think her mother is very cold to her and never liked her. Her father is the holding glue that keeps her family from falling apart. So I'm guessing that from this unstable family environment she kinda went crazy, ( alcohol abuse, living in trailer parks, realtionships with shady, old and charismatic men)

And that her mother instead of supporting her, blames her for all her problems, like '' you went looking for it''

if some of you find this thread weird you can always look somewhere else.... I'm very interested not only in her music and artistic endeavors but in HER as a person.. I want to know what made her behave this way and .. yeahh... so if you find this annnoying yall free to go...  going back to the topic.. So do anyone know anything about her past for sure?

I don't think Lana is a weak !!! quite au contraire!!!  she likes to be submissive because for a moment she can let go, instead of always be in charge of everything (like she is) she admires strenght ... She longs to be desired ardently because it makes you powerful, the thought of a man that can do crazy things for you is beautiful and empowering... She wants to find a man, a strong man that can keep up with her and '' tame her''

The most devastating part about this for me is the fact that if this was set couple days earlier I would have been able to go but me and my dumb ass needing to go to other places at the time I'm unable to     

When she first emerged in the international music scene back in 2011 I didn't pay much attention to her.. In fact I found her boring and her music bizzare....  But in 2013 something was begginning to change that was when Tropico was released . I began to be interested in her and started to listen to her songs and follow her on social media, but still it was nothing intense. but  all that changed in the summer of 2014 , the first song of Lana that got me hooked was Shades Of Cool, and from then it was no looking back. I began to worship her and became let's say....obsessed it's the right word  . And now I'm going to explain why in detail
1 Her voice and her musical style.... It's profoundly original and so different from all the music that's around these days. from the lyrics to the instrumental part, and last but not least her voice.. Mesmerizing, sultry,deep and sensual
2 Her beauty she's so beautiful .. but something that striked me was her eyes. I was flipping the pages of a cosmopolitan magazine and there was this HM ad that she was campainging for. Her eyes were apart from beautiful, profoundly sad and melancholic, like greta garbos. I always liked this kind of tragic beauty. And I wondered what has she been through, and that she must be a strong woman.
3 Her personality. From what she says on interviews , from her music and for her overall demeanor she comes off like a loner, an introvert, a woman that's not scared of what people think of her and doesn't care of what society expects from her ,she lives by her own rules.
So I relate with her deeply because I'm a lot like her. I was always fascinated by the hollywood culture ( particularly from the 40ies to the 60ies), and there was a period in my early teens when I was obsessed with Marylin Monroe. I love Kurt Cobain and all the culture that he created, I listen to a lot of rock music . I relate with her need for strong men that make you feel desired , and I'm not afraid of a little roughness here and there. I'm a very passionate person and by no mean ''light'' , prone to depression and daydreaming, and use recreational drugs from time to time. Also when I listen to her songs I imagine myself in an L.A of the fifties  , where I'm in madly in love with a  violent but handsome police officer, a turbulent relationship where we love each other  but there is some violence involved, pretty much like a James Ellroy novel. I'm all for intense and dark things , at the edge of society approved behaviors.I also like whitman and nabokov...  so in conclusion I relate to her because she reminds me of parts of myself and she has the same values that I have. Her music is dark but seductive and ADDICTIVE, she's a creative genius and she'll be an Icon of the american culture. Oh and I forgot to mention that she can be extremely sexy without baring an in inch of her lovely pale skin,unlike the various Katy perrys, beyoncè,lady gaga or rihannas.And I bet she has an awful relationship with her mom... As I do

The May cover for ELLE UK just was revealed and it says  Exclusive pictures + Interviews: LANA DEL REY 

in my opinion:
I think Born To Die was her losing what she thought to be her "soulmate/true love" and her struggling to move on/find a light at the end of the tunnel. (Dark Paradise, Without You, Summertime Sadness)
 
Ultraviolence is a mix of her finding a new love (although not as intense as the one she experienced on BTD) and then losing that love too, but this time she doesn't seem to dwell on it as much as she did on BTD. (Brooklyn Baby, Cruel World, Black Beauty, Is This Happiness, Flipside)
 
Then I see Honeymoon as her experiencing a different kind of love where she's just obsessed with and fascinated by this person/interested in just having fun with them rather than actually being in love with them. (Religion, Freak, MTWBT)
 
It's a nice development really bc with each album she becomes more in control of her affections and less vulnerable to heartbreak

interesting piece, loved it

Now that I got it graded, I can finally post my graduation thesis Bear in mind, I only got a B  and this is 6000 words long I quote Lana and Marina and a bunch of other people! I'm sorry there aren't pictures of references but if you wish to see it in full, don't hesitate to ask me!
 
This is my assessment lol. I didn't corrected the spelling error of benefited. Not a single spelling error in my text and English isn't my first language and these British arses didn't cared enough to check their appreciation. These motherfuckers can lick me to oblivion
 
 
 
 
And here's the text!
 
 
 
 
Thank you for reading. For real.

You should record an audio version of this because I ain't got time to read all that  

Anthony Burgess: Ultraviolence (Ultraviolence)
 
Belinda Carlisle: Heaven is a place on earth (Video Games)
 
Beverly Donofrio: (Riding) // Driving in Cars with Boys (Driving in Cars with Boys)
 
Bruce Springsteen: I'm on fire (Summertime Sadness, Body Electric)
 
Bryan Adams: We were young and wild and free // You're young, you're wild, you're free (Cruel World)
 
Charles R. Cross (Kurt Cobain biography): Heavier Than Heaven // Heavier than heavenly (On Our Way)
 
Cyndi Lauper: Girls just wanna have fun (Driving in Cars with Boys)
 
Elvis: One for the money, two for the show (Million Dollar Man)
 
Ernest Hemingway: The sun also rises (Money, Power, Glory)
 
Funkadelic/Kanye West: Feet don't fail me now (Born to Die)
 
Gilbert Ryle: The ghost in (the) // your machine (She's Not Me)
 
Gods and Monsters (Jeff Buckley's first band): Gods and Monsters (Gods and Monsters)
 
Green Day: On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams (Beautiful Player)
 
Guns N´Roses: Guns and roses (Guns and Roses)
 
Guns N' Roses: Sweet child of mine (Bel Air)
 

John Derek (Knock on Any Door) + True Romance: Live fast, die young and have a good-looking corpse // live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse (Driving in Cars with Boys)
 
John Newton: I once was lost, but now am found, was blind, but now I see // Lost but now I am found, I can see but once I was blind (Born to Die)
 
Lou Reed: Take a walk on the wild side (Born to Die)
 
Marilyn Monroe: Diamonds are a girl's best friend //  Diamonds are my bestest friends  (The Body Electric)
 
Nabokov: Light of my life, fire of my loins (Off to the Races)
 
Nabokov: A paradise whose skies were the color of hell-flames // Paradise is a hell-coloured flame sky (Angels Forever, Forever Angels)
 
Nabokov: Lolita (Lolita)
 
New Radicals: You’ve got the music in you (Westcoast)
 
Nietzsche: God's dead (Gods and Monsters)
 
Nirvana: Come as you are (Oh Say Can You See)

 
Oscar Wilde: Life imitates art (Gods and Monsters)
 
Phil Collins: I can feel it coming in the air tonight (Guns and Roses)
 
Samuel Johnson: He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man // Man who makes a beast out of himself got nothing to lose (Tired of Singing the Blues)
 
Tennessee Williams: Relying on the kindness of strangers (Carmen)
 
The Beatles: (Lucy's) // Harvey's in the sky with diamonds (Cola)
 
The Crystals: He hit me and it felt like a kiss (Ultraviolence)
 
The Pogues: Queen of New York City (Old Money)
 
T-Rex: Children of the bad revolution (Children of the Bad Revolution)
 
The Who: Talking about my generation (Brooklyn Baby)
 
To Have and Have Not: You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and blow //  You know how to whistle, don't 'cha? Just put your lips together and blow (Put Your Lips Together)
 
Tom Petty: Honey put on that party dress (American)
 
Whitman: I sing the body electric (I Sing the Body Electric)
 
Whitney Houston: Run to you (Old Money)
 
Whitney Houston: Queen of the night (Go Go Dancer)
 
Woodkid: Run, boy run (Money, Power, Glory)
 
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Chet Baker: Let's Get Lost (West Coast video)
 
Erik Satie: Gymnopedie no 3 at the end of the Carmen video

She should make a movie with all of those experiences/made up experiences across the country with visual imagery like a François Truffaut/David Lynch hybrid

"Hold my head, it's tilting back
Something dancing me around
Putting crystals on my neck
Lifting my feet off the ground"
 
http://www.thefader.com/2014/06/17/love-death-and-jazz-seven-outtakes-from-our-lana-del-rey-intervie/
 
 
"Just like you said
It's all been done before"

I think this is her very essence: equal parts art and science. I think LDR as a persona/identity is meant to be someone who lives poetically, driven only by emotion and whims, makes her 'life an art', etc.
 
But the reality is she would not be where she is if she were just a wide-eyed innocent, dreaming about life from her window sill all day, or being led around by boys. Lizzy Grant is the shadow master and commander of the LDR concept; she dreams big but she is also a doer, the ruler of her own destiny. (Her critics who think she has no agency need to wake up —  who in pop music right now has more control of their own vision than her ?)   She is very calculating, knowing, and aware of how to give form to her dreams. It surely all starts with intuition and artistic intention and emotion, but then Science Lizzy kicks in — the one who researches, studies, analyzes, experiments w/ a hypothesis, puts in art in action. A good creative director is always equally artistic and scientific, and Lizzy herself has hinted at this in interviews. 
 
I also think someone like this is naturally driven to explore esoteric and marginalized philosophy/psychology/cultural topics; I'm sure she's even aware of Crowley, Theosophy, and the like. Not sure if I buy she was in 'a cult', but the chronology specifics don't matter so much, the essence of how it shaped her does. What's exciting is that she can bring these super niche topics into the warmth of the spotlight, even if she has to paint broad strokes to do so. I honestly can't think of someone else so widely known and loved that is able to pull this off in the 21st century. Maybe Grimes, but with her, it's literally the Wiki-meets-Tumblr remix version of everything. Young artists everywhere should be inspired that women like Lizzy are finding ways to make the outre and strange palatable.

honestly, she makes up so much bullshit about herself that i don't believe anything that she says unless we have proof from someone else. soz lanz