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"Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass" Spoken Word Poetry Album - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass  

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  1. 1. What are your favourite poems from "Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass?"

    • LA Who am I to Love You
      117
    • The Land of 1000 Fires
      48
    • Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass
      32
    • Past the Bushes Cypress Thriving
      39
    • Salamander
      68
    • Never to Heaven
      35
    • Sportcruiser
      164
    • Tessa DiPietro
      27
    • Quiet Waiter Blue Forever
      39
    • What Happened When I Left You
      19
    • Happy
      43
    • My Bedroom is a Sacred Place Now - There are Children at the Foot of My Bed
      52
    • Paradise is Very Fragile
      65
    • Bare Feet on Linoleum
      85


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I finished listening to the audiobook version last night. Not a big fan of the majority of the poems but I liked a few. Love the way Jack worked with the instrumentals, wasn't expecting that.

Sportcruiser is still the highlight for me. It's just so beautifully put together, it got me a little emotional. Her writing really shines here.

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25 minutes ago, gatadelrey said:

Love listening to this every night as I’m falling asleep. It’s sooooo peaceful and soothing. 

Quiet Waiter - Blue Forever sounds like an actual lullaby :flutter:

So sweet :flutter:


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yall... at first i thought sportcruiser was the best here but i think the best one might be salamander. it’s gorgeous how she recorded the part, “I love you but you don’t understand me, i’m a real poet! my life is my poetry... my lovemaking is my legacy!”


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So its become hard for me to listen to Sportcruiser. The entire first part in the studio apartment with yellow petals as their view. Terrible you, which was unfortunately me in my situation. Its alot to take in in a moment of introspection, one I don't want to make cus i know I sucked, and I honestly thank God it becomes a more specific tale to who she is and what her fears are. I adore Violet and its such a  great listen and I usually refuse to skip tracks, yet Sportcruiser drains the happiness from me, even though i can never help but smile when she's so taken that no one on the dock cares who she is. Its the albums masterpiece, but if im just trying to vibe it seems it may have to become a skip. The most affecting piece she has ever written and it turns out I literally wasn't prepared for it.

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lol i wonder how many times she recorded stuff, listened and then deleted, then re-recorded lol


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I love Violet from start to finish but the three poems in a row: Past the Bushes Cypress Thriving, Salamander, and Never to Heaven is probably the most special part of the album to me. I will often go back and replay those three poems in a row again at least once before moving on. Idk what it is but they do flow so well into each other sonically and thematically. Sorry if I keep coming back here to rave about this album, I just love it so much.


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16 hours ago, HydroponicWeeds said:

yall... at first i thought sportcruiser was the best here but i think the best one might be salamander. it’s gorgeous how she recorded the part, “I love you but you don’t understand me, i’m a real poet! my life is my poetry... my lovemaking is my legacy!”

This. I've seen people saying that they cringe at it, for me is the climax of the audiobook. I absolutely adore how dramatic she sounds, how commited she is to the narrative. A highlight on a brilliant project!

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2 hours ago, sjatib said:

This. I've seen people saying that they cringe at it, for me is the climax of the audiobook. I absolutely adore how dramatic she sounds, how commited she is to the narrative. A highlight on a brilliant project!

shes literally spewing her heart at him, or herself even, almost trying to convince herself that she truly is this poet and shes valid to feel this way! it’s so interesting to hear something so, so different from her. god i love her


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Paradise is very fragile has to be one of my favorite lyrical bodies of work that lana has ever published. Every word is divine and puts me in this headspace that i’m not alone with what I feel. She just did an amazing job.


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Almost a month later, and Paradise is Very Fragile and Never to Heaven are my most frequently listened to and my favourites


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4 hours ago, Sugar Venom said:

any updates on the tape deck bundle yet??

I can only update with what my email receipt said (see below). I'll be pissed if they are both cream colored ?‍♂️ I'm wondering if they planned on having 2 different colors and changed their mind. I'll definitely report back once they arrive

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1 x Violet Bent Backwards Over The Grass Cassette (Cassette)

Release date: 02 October 2020

US $12.00

1 x Violet Bent Backwards Over The Grass Cassette (Cassette)

Release date: 02 October 2020

US $12.00
   

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I really praised this recording when it came out - I'd only listened to it twice (first listen, a second listen later that day) and gave it a third listen today. It's still marvellous and such a special project that we have seen Lana's personality and an exploration of the the legend of the Lana del Rey identity. I have minor criticisms of the work but overall I can't wait for the book. I am still very impressed by the musicality and range from Jack. It really took me by surprise, and sonically I hope Chemtrails moves into a more experimental genre bend like this score did.

 

This isn't the greatest poetry of the world, but it does two great things. Firstly, it has a clear separation of the 'music' of Lana del Rey. I can't imagine the immense pressure she must be feeling to follow up NFR - the fact she literally has this island as a mini-stop to transition between sounds and lyrical content I think will serve her well for critics and big fans (if not GP). Secondly, it has arguably made a portion (even as small as Lana del Rey fans) of people more interested in poetry. Poetry is extremely personal and for some naturally difficult to get into, so the fact that people are listening to this, appreciating and identifying with topics, and then seeking out more in the same vein is really wonderful. Similar to how film scores can lead to enjoying classical music, there's nothing shameful about enjoying a popular artist like Lana's poetry (similar to her music) as its a stepping stone into enjoying more of the artform.

 

I have been weighing up on this for a while but ultimately I feel the question of the authenticity around the autobiographical content is irrelevant, and people are being obdurate if they can't separate and allow it to spoil their enjoyment of the work. Artists take artistic liberties in exploring a story or point and to quote Whitman is the key to just enjoying the work - "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes." Violet mixes the urban legend of Lana del Rey, with her real life experiences, with imaginary events. In 'LA Who Am I To Love You', I've seen criticism on the line "they say I come from money and I don't" talking about Lana's origins as it reignites the endless argument of how we classify middle-class as rich - but the same weight is not allocated to "Party of thousands of people I don't know at Delilah where my ex-husband works". Likewise, people obsess over the lines "You see, I have no mother" and connecting it to her family life but not to "I'm an orphan A little seashell that rests upon your native shores". This is in addition to other fantastical elements in the text like existing on seven planes, to the mundane of having two children with imaginary friends. It's bullish to obsess over one point but not others, especially when the delivery is earnest and even the mistakes are laden with an authentic fragility. Also, simply put also, it might just not be your cup of tea.

Saying that, there are obviously sections and entire works that are authentic that are beautiful and fascinating. Sportscruiser obviously evokes a strong reaction for myself on my own criticism. @HighbytheSea articulated this beautifully so I won't bother going any further. But there is such a personal reflection and also a willingness to laugh at herself. I find Salamander brilliant and the line "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME  . . . MY LOVE MAKING IS MY LEGACY etc" actually tongue-in-cheek and exploring her own self awareness. I had a big smile on my face for most of this album, and it was a wonderful sanctuary for the small hours in my lonely house on a very cold winter in the middle of a fucking epidemic.

 

Also people criticising the longevity or replay factor - get over yourselves. This is poetry not music. Just like any wonderful art, I don't watch a piece of theatre repetitively, look endlessly at a painting, or rewatch a film I loved. You're allowed to consume a work and then let it sit with you as it provokes debate. If you're replaying it GOOD ON YOU. 

TL;DR - Not the greatest poetry in the world, but the most earnest, surreal and interesting work of legitimate art that Lana has created.

I will now take rebuttals and people saying "THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION". :sass:

My initial album review:

 

I am kinda still reeling from this. Kudos to this being properly releasing and not having some random 10 year old leak it #CassetteGirl

This just elevates her legitimacy as one of America's greatest artists even higher. I really resisted reading too much or weighing into her poetry before now, but listening to her words and the authenticity in the delivery, I think this is one of her greatest artistic creations . . . maybe the best. Listening to the her speak the words conjures up so many images but the intertextual references to her body of work (and directly to Norman FUCKING Rockwell!) are also clever and considered to the point where it feels familiar. And the stories she tells are heartbreaking, beautiful, hopeful - there are too many good moments to mention but the best of the album is Sports Cruiser, where she earnestly confesses her self-doubt and imposter syndrome before resolving to change. The vulnerability is stunning. That, or the serene horror of Bare Feet on Linoleum, where a cacophony of voices ask questions over and over along with rising, moaning strings and synths - creating a terrifying dimension as Lana speaks over them before joining in as if she's been hypnotised. Awesome.

I've totally disregarded Jack's contributions to NFR in the past, but his incidental music took me totally by surprise. I'm sorry. @Jared is right. His music has huge range, like I said drawing from all kinds of sounds that remind me of Nigel Godrich's scores to Debussy's pianos. It's the perfect level of pleasant without boarding into obnoxiously inappropriate. Delicate soft electronic wefts that sparkle, soft and lilting pianos, quirky jazz that flows like a radio play - it accentuates Lana's vulnerability, and without it the work would not be the same. 

I am looking forward to rearranging a playlist of NFR's songs and Violet's poems, which I think would flow amazingly, and definitely allow a bit more variety. I think the scrappy, unpolished vocals on their own would've sounded bizarre but among the well produced sound, it couldn't have been more authentic.

I have mocked the process in the past but I'm definitely eating shit now because this was so, so worth it. Lana I'll never question you again I'M SORRY.

 

 

Stick with the winners // Go where it’s warm // Don’t go to the hardware store for bread // Don’t date mean people // Run at the sign of anyone who ever yells at you or gets mad at you // Try and have nice friends.

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