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2 minutes ago, the ocean said:

ok but on one hand i wanna say it's fat shaming not from people on here but on the other hand these are extremely narcissistic and manipulative people :raven:

It can be both, I don't have any quams with being disturbed by her size AND the combined behavior. There are other obese Youtubers who don't have the negative following that these specific few have, they are waddling walking gluttonous stereotypes, it's tragic imo :true:

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