10 Years of Born to Die

[Surf Noir 188,277]

Just now, Clampigirl said:

I just remembered her reaction to Lana’s angry response was “I made her start writing on the new album! <3 “ like... 

 

you just know she was so proud of that brooklyn/gentrification take...   

[DCooper 34,492]

2 minutes ago, Clampigirl said:

I just remembered her reaction to Lana’s angry response was “I made her start writing on the new album! <3 “ like... 

 

Ugh yes that was so infuriating, she was so proud of her own dumb ass 

 

[Beautiful Loser 45,907]

3 minutes ago, Surf Noir said:

 

you just know she was so proud of that brooklyn/gentrification take...   

She also seems proud to have found out that BTD was huge on tumblr, as if that isn’t considered to be general knowledge by now.

[Fordham Rd 119]

listing to BTD again for the first time in like 1.5 years... omg the feels I have rn, it sounds so amazing still?

[DCooper 34,492]

OMG you guys she responded to me on twitter:

 

"Loving an artist also means being critical of them"

 

LOL bitch please 

[Beautiful Loser 45,907]

3 minutes ago, DCooper said:

OMG you guys she responded to me on twitter:

 

"Loving an artist also means being critical of them"

 

LOL bitch please 

I’ve already replied, I hope this won’t turn into my first twitter beef : )))

[DCooper 34,492]

Just now, Clampigirl said:

I’ve already replied, I hope this won’t turn into my first twitter beef : )))

 

LOL yesss I just saw your reply  and same, I am definitely not one to fight online, but she is getting on my nerves. 

[Super Movie 50,262]

7 minutes ago, DCooper said:

OMG you guys she responded to me on twitter:

 

"Loving an artist also means being critical of them"

 

LOL bitch please 

I'm never letting her live the Brooklyn Baby thing down, there's a line between being critical of an artist and just straight up making zero sense. The song isn't even about Brooklyn itself 

[bluechemtrails 22,758]

10 minutes ago, DCooper said:

"Loving an artist also means being critical of them"

I think this is not wrong.

[DCooper 34,492]

1 minute ago, bluechemtrails said:

I think this is not wrong.

 

Of course it's not. The issue is that she wasn't just critical of Lana, she was hateful and ridiculous, and now she's released a hypocritical follow up praising Lana and pretending that other critics just don't get her sometimes. 

[Coloringbooks 12,804]

The "my boyfriends are rappers" was a stupid thing to say and I can see why QFTC could be taken the wrong way... but the Brooklyn Baby criticism was one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard 

I have no idea how anybody could unironically complain about that

[Make me your Dream Life 82,971]

Lol u know it’s bad when DCooper’s telling u off 

[DCooper 34,492]

11 minutes ago, Diamantes said:

Lol u know it’s bad when DCooper’s telling u off 

 

LOL 

 

I truly am not meaning to offend anyone or get into any arguments, the internet is just full of questionable takes today 

[Make me your Dream Life 82,971]

13 minutes ago, DCooper said:

 

LOL 

 

I truly am not meaning to offend anyone or get into any arguments, the internet is just full of questionable takes today 

Nah I feel that but still more empowerment to u 

[the ocean 67,620]

i guess we're all taking a walk on the wild side today

[DCooper 34,492]

12 minutes ago, Diamantes said:

Nah I feel that but still more empowerment to u 

 

[Glitter Boy 16,198]

The way I opened this thread and see I was missing quite a bit today  

[the ocean 67,620]

1 minute ago, Glitter Boy said:

The way I opened this thread and see I was missing quite a bit today  

 

not really tbh it's mostly certain people policing other people's bodies 

along with the "brooklyn baby to gentrification pipeline" author doing the "omg i luv born to die" thing

[rosemeadexclusivebbnewyorkcity 2,753]

Reading some of these anniversary articles... they've really learned nothing like damn. Why is it that so many of her fans just immediately get what B2D is all about, but so many professional writers get it wrong over and over again? Is it because the themes of submission and mania are too sticky to address directly? Do they still think she's being ironic? Because the only ironic song in B2D is "Lucky Ones" which is ironically happy. From day one Lana has insisted that she does not have a persona and means what she says and says what she means. But all these harebrained journalists are too busy with their heads up their asses to consider one of best pop albums of all time a serious endeavor. Such a shame.

[the ocean 67,620]

Just now, takemetothegasstation said:

Reading some of these anniversary articles... they've really learned nothing like damn. Why is it that so many of her fans just immediately get what B2D is all about, but so many professional writers get it wrong over and over again? Is it because the themes of submission and mania are too sticky to address directly? Do they still think she's being ironic? Because the only ironic song in B2D is "Lucky Ones" which is ironically happy. From day one Lana has insisted that she does not have a persona and means what she says and says what she means. But all these harebrained journalists are too busy with their heads up their asses to consider one of best pop albums of all time a serious endeavor. Such a shame.

 

adding onto your point (i agree w/ it btw just for clarification) - i know lana has said that b2d/paradise isn't a persona but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not fictional

she can write from a genuine place while it also not being autobiographical