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I’ve been seeing sooo many Olivia Rodrigo promo everywhere, instagram posts from very big magazines supporting her and praising her, so many good interviews and high ratings... Which is good for her but... I've been wondering, why the media hated Lana so much back then when she started? I know it's different times but.... It feels weird and now I understand why Lana is/was upset about it. Like, she was bringing something completely new and fresh and fucking cool to the table and they screwed her over so much. Meanwhile, Olivia gets flowers thrown at her when her music is just generic and average. No hate to her tho I like some of her songs, she’s cute and her songs are very catchy but Lana is just so unique in every aspect… from her voice to her lyrics to her sound. No one was and no one is ever going to do it like her. Idc what the critics or the media says cuz they always a joke but i’m genuinely curious why they hated her so much lol maybe because she’s gorgeous and smart af they couldn’t handle it? Or because she was so diferente from what was popular in 2012 that they just didn’t understand it ¿? Idk it’s something I’ll never understand. 

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59 minutes ago, la otra mujer said:

I’ve been seeing sooo many Olivia Rodrigo promo everywhere, instagram posts from very big magazines supporting her and praising her, so many good interviews and high ratings... Which is good for her but... I've been wondering, why the media hated Lana so much back then when she started? I know it's different times but.... It feels weird and now I understand why Lana is/was upset about it. Like, she was bringing something completely new and fresh and fucking cool to the table and they screwed her over so much. Meanwhile, Olivia gets flowers thrown at her when her music is just generic and average. No hate to her tho I like some of her songs, she’s cute and her songs are very catchy but Lana is just so unique in every aspect… from her voice to her lyrics to her sound. No one was and no one is ever going to do it like her. Idc what the critics or the media says cuz they always a joke but i’m genuinely curious why they hated her so much lol maybe because she’s gorgeous and smart af they couldn’t handle it? Or because she was so diferente from what was popular in 2012 that they just didn’t understand it ¿? Idk it’s something I’ll never understand. 

(first i wanna say i don’t hate olivia at all i respect her and like her music but imo it’s just not anything super special).

 

i don’t really understand either but i think it’s partly due to olivia starting from disney channel. she has more of a mainstream audience and is more “family friendly” in a sense. it’s probably a lot more profitable for media to have an artist that is more conventional and follows their game and rules. they hate people who don’t follow the typical pop star route. 


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1 hour ago, la otra mujer said:

I’ve been seeing sooo many Olivia Rodrigo promo everywhere, instagram posts from very big magazines supporting her and praising her, so many good interviews and high ratings... Which is good for her but... I've been wondering, why the media hated Lana so much back then when she started? I know it's different times but.... It feels weird and now I understand why Lana is/was upset about it. Like, she was bringing something completely new and fresh and fucking cool to the table and they screwed her over so much. Meanwhile, Olivia gets flowers thrown at her when her music is just generic and average. No hate to her tho I like some of her songs, she’s cute and her songs are very catchy but Lana is just so unique in every aspect… from her voice to her lyrics to her sound. No one was and no one is ever going to do it like her. Idc what the critics or the media says cuz they always a joke but i’m genuinely curious why they hated her so much lol maybe because she’s gorgeous and smart af they couldn’t handle it? Or because she was so diferente from what was popular in 2012 that they just didn’t understand it ¿? Idk it’s something I’ll never understand. 

I think internalised sexism has plays a big part, like I think Lana started at a time when women were pitted against eachother and she sang about difficult subjects which were misconstrued 


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Like, singing about real experiences that real women live through and how it makes the feel whether that be good or bad. Like wtf was going on 10 year ago, like those experiences shouldn’t be discussed and women couldn’t support each other because the media was pushing us to tear eachother down 

 

you could say it still does, but my god, things have gotten sooooo much better 


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"Candy for my eyes, in my veins you run citrus" is the perfect quintessential Lana line--you could tell me it's from any album and i'd believe you. 


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4 hours ago, la otra mujer said:

I’ve been seeing sooo many Olivia Rodrigo promo everywhere, instagram posts from very big magazines supporting her and praising her, so many good interviews and high ratings... Which is good for her but... I've been wondering, why the media hated Lana so much back then when she started? I know it's different times but.... It feels weird and now I understand why Lana is/was upset about it. Like, she was bringing something completely new and fresh and fucking cool to the table and they screwed her over so much. Meanwhile, Olivia gets flowers thrown at her when her music is just generic and average. No hate to her tho I like some of her songs, she’s cute and her songs are very catchy but Lana is just so unique in every aspect… from her voice to her lyrics to her sound. No one was and no one is ever going to do it like her. Idc what the critics or the media says cuz they always a joke but i’m genuinely curious why they hated her so much lol maybe because she’s gorgeous and smart af they couldn’t handle it? Or because she was so diferente from what was popular in 2012 that they just didn’t understand it ¿? Idk it’s something I’ll never understand. 

If Olivia's breakthrough was in the early 2010s too, believe me the media would have shit on her too, they apparently did this to every young woman in the industry and they liked doing that, they liked seeing them vulnerable...which is fucked up. I think it's better for her and any other female artist (including Lana) to receive their flowers now, not after when they're dead or some shit like that :crossed:

 

Also Lana got a lot of shit early in her career because of that conspiracy theory that Rob bought her career and Lana had to change her persona for this because she "flopped" as Lizzy Grant and imo this conspiracy theory was ridiculous as fuck.


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On 4/8/2023 at 1:17 PM, BartenderDeco said:

does anyone know what this is? here’s the link https://open.spotify.com/album/4w2umNLo8PBay3r3JO0gkC?si=s0Fad3fAS-mFCA4v9MXxNg

wait i realised it’s that interview she did but why is it on spotify

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its been there since i can remember, its under the seccion of "Compilations" for some weird reason haha 2LdXdL1.png

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4 hours ago, Thats why they call me Dita said:

I think internalised sexism has plays a big part, like I think Lana started at a time when women were pitted against eachother and she sang about difficult subjects which were misconstrued 

This is definitely it. Her image also stood out and people wanted to tear it apart.

1 hour ago, Embach said:

If Olivia's breakthrough was in the early 2010s too, believe me the media would have shit on her too, they apparently did this to every young woman in the industry and they liked doing that, they liked seeing them vulnerable...which is fucked up. I think it's better for her and any other female artist (including Lana) to receive their flowers now, not after when they're dead or some shit like that :crossed:

Yeah I think thats true too. Olivia is slightly different to the early 2000s Disney stars in the way that she gets more vulnerable with her songs, spilling about her relationships etc. People would have hated that even in the 2010s, like all the shit Taylor swift got.

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3 minutes ago, Lavender Sunshine said:

Not sure if anyone's already shared this :oprah4:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw9A4YlsWtA/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ== 

David Lynch mentioning Lana

 

I neeeeed Lana to be in a Lynch movie or at least make a song for it :angie:


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10 hours ago, Embach said:

If Olivia's breakthrough was in the early 2010s too, believe me the media would have shit on her too, they apparently did this to every young woman in the industry and they liked doing that, they liked seeing them vulnerable...which is fucked up. I think it's better for her and any other female artist (including Lana) to receive their flowers now, not after when they're dead or some shit like that :crossed:

 

Also Lana got a lot of shit early in her career because of that conspiracy theory that Rob bought her career and Lana had to change her persona for this because she "flopped" as Lizzy Grant and imo this conspiracy theory was ridiculous as fuck.

Olivia still would have been fine tbh but she probably wouldn’t be as big- Taylor didn’t have any backlash in the early 10s- she only started getting backlash during 1989 when she became popular(she wasn’t that popular in the UK with one hit only-Love story) and then she had more focus placed on her and the usage of high profile relationships which she does use to sell her music-atleast back then.

 

Lanas debut came out in a time when women like Beyoncé were labelled as false feminists by jamelia etc for acting like “pornstars appeasing the male gaze”- add on Lanas submissive lyricism and most people saw her as a tradwife trying to revive unhealthy stereotypes.

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13 minutes ago, evalionisameme said:

Olivia still would have been fine tbh but she probably wouldn’t be as big- Taylor didn’t have any backlash in the early 10s- she only started getting backlash during 1989 when she became popular(she wasn’t that popular in the UK with one hit only-Love story) and then she had more focus placed on her and the usage of high profile relationships which she does use to sell her music-atleast back then.

 

Lanas debut came out in a time when women like Beyoncé were labelled as false feminists by jamelia etc for acting like “pornstars appeasing the male gaze”- add on Lanas submissive lyricism and most people saw her as a tradwife trying to revive unhealthy stereotypes.


And Lana straight up said she wasn't a feminist which was iconic but gave a lot of people ammunition to deride her. Combine all of these things and you get a liability waiting to happen, easier to distance themselves from Lana and use her for negative attention than to embrace her and use her for positive attention which is what Olivia is for - she is someone who plays by the rules

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