Super Movie 51,489 Posted February 14, 2023 My first thought at the "watching teenage diary of a girl" line was this movie honestly I also think the line could be more introspective with it being about Lana looking through her own teenage diaries, hence the "wondering what went wrong" line. This whole song is just so lyrically interesting. It feels very loaded despite the seeming simplicity 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom 21,325 Posted February 14, 2023 I’m throwing up everywhere I’m so overwhelmed by this woman like it’s just serve after serve rn Im struggling to breathe 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeybadger 40,617 Posted February 14, 2023 does she say “surf’s up!” around 6:34 because i’m obsessed with that 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadesOfFool 20,073 Posted February 14, 2023 Is she saying maimed or raped?? 3 Quote let's be real, all you bitches wanna look like me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingertips 72,023 Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, ShadesOfFool said: Is she saying maimed or raped?? Raped 8 Quote "You can't be a muse and be happy, too. You can't blacken the pages with Russian poetry and be happy." - Blue Banisters Quote I asked Asmodeus (the demon of lust) to make Miley Cyrus suffer. I am not happy with these new developments. After Miley rips off Lana's aesthetic, she bullies Lana into changing her release date. It is infuriating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Um Chile Anyways So 7,096 Posted February 15, 2023 I think she says raped in such subtle way that you can barely hear it. I think it's been done on purpose almost like she couldn't talk about it 20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,489 Posted February 15, 2023 Women using the word "raped" in songs is so powerful to me. I feel like it's something that a lot of listeners, particularly male listeners, may find jarring. But personally, I find it refreshing to hear an artist like Lana do it if that is the case. I think the mentioned subtleness of it is quite interesting, so it really could be maimed as well and I think the meaning of the lyrics would hold the same weight. Especially in the verse the word is used in. It reminds me a lot of Hole's "Asking For It" 23 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeybadger 40,617 Posted February 15, 2023 i hear maimed but i assume it’s ambiguous purposefully Spoiler but i kind of don’t hear “raped” at all — although i think this is the kind of lyrical difference that doesn’t need to be debated, because the meaning derived from it is so powerful that it hardly matters what the original lyric is 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,782 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Peppers said: She's clearly saying Jimmy Jimmy coco puff not Shimmy Shimmy ko-ko-bop It's a Tom Hanks reference She even sings the Jimmy Jimmy ride part, which isn't in Shimmy Shimmy Ko-Ko-Bop But Hanks is clearly saying Shimmy Shimmy Which is taken from the clapping game Down Down Baby 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drugsdesire 9,638 Posted February 15, 2023 the raped line reminds me of fiona apple’s ‘for her’ where she sings “well good morning, good morning, you raped me in the same bed your daughter was born in” 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blossom 8,960 Posted February 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, honeybadger said: i hear maimed but i assume it’s ambiguous purposefully Reveal hidden contents but i kind of don’t hear “raped” at all — although i think this is the kind of lyrical difference that doesn’t need to be debated, because the meaning derived from it is so powerful that it hardly matters what the original lyric is I didn't either at first but the line saying "didn't testify, already fucked up my story" kinda gives it away :/ 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one time beauty queen 18,410 Posted February 15, 2023 if any of the male reviewers get mad about that lyric, we need to give them a proper lashing like the one below 21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TropicoKitten 5,012 Posted February 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, drugsdesire said: the raped line reminds me of fiona apple’s ‘for her’ where she sings “well good morning, good morning, you raped me in the same bed your daughter was born in” I was literally thinking this. That song is so powerful 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramada Hydrangea 433 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, honeybadger said: does she say “surf’s up!” around 6:34 because i’m obsessed with that I love that line too, reminds me so much of the nfr pics 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poor Stacy 11,994 Posted February 15, 2023 Agreed that she's saying "raped" now, but I think it's going to fly under the radar because of how she delivers it. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 61,858 Posted February 15, 2023 "Forensic Files wasn't on" ––––– but was it? 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grandpas glass 26,134 Posted February 15, 2023 someone wrote an interesting analysis on genius: https://genius.com/a/lana-del-rey-offers-a-complex-character-study-societal-critique-on-new-song-a-w 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourboy 3,386 Posted February 15, 2023 15 hours ago, Elle said: turn down the bed be What does this mean? I have absolutely no clue. Bed.. be...? What's that 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one time beauty queen 18,410 Posted February 15, 2023 this photo (for it's Ride, Queen Of The Gas Station, Buffalo 66 energy) & the lyric have me in such a chokehold Spoiler deserved it's own lockscreen 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one time beauty queen 18,410 Posted February 15, 2023 ocean blvd & american whore despite sonically n stylistically being way out of one another's league, lyrically & thematically crossover very well imo & im glad she chose them as the first two singles i feel like "open me up, tell me you like it/me, fuck me to death" obviously ties into a&w perfectly- using sex as a means of validation, a way to fill certain voids/diminish insecurities an obvious difference however is the "love me until i love myself" to "it isn't about having someone to love me anymore, this is the experience of being an american whore" almost as if her state of mind on that matter completely shifted in the period between creating the two songs "I mean, look at my hair- look at the length of it there & the shape of my body If I told you that I was raped, do you really think that anybody would think I didn't ask for it, didn't ask for it?" feels like a sister lyric to "I can't help but feel somewhat like my body marred my soul, handmade beauty sealed up by two man-made walls" both touch on the same very real notion that society struggles to look past the surface level when it comes to a woman, women are reduced & diminished down to their anatomy/age/clothing & their basic humanity gets destroyed this process. other than that, she touches on her conflicts with both the press/public & her own mother, which likely are where a lot of the deeper wounds she sings of stem from, leading to her searching for a sort of "closure" to them through her loves / lovemaking (expressed in both tracks again) tldr- random thoughts, i appreciate how both the singles sort of bounce off each other, looking fwd to the great feast of the 24th!!!!! 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites