Flipflopfan 254 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates."Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video.I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why.There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...:First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview.The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems.After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months.Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect.How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't.Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care.I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing 0 Quote I’m not as interested in flip-floppers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melania 2,386 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for 6 at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagine that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing sayonara bîtch 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowerbomb 65,594 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for 6 at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagine that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing I'm just going to speak about the witch thing: I do think that perhaps the whole witch thing could be for aesthetic purposes, but we don't know Lana personally to make any kind of judgement on that. Her motive? Perhaps for promo/marketing of an upcoming music video, a political statement, or just plain truth. But we do not know, so we can't judge. I think Lana is spiritually and religiously open minded so it's possible she is getting into different things. Why dislike her for that? Also, witches aren't hexing Trump, any advanced witch/practitioner knows if you hex or use Magick for bad, it'll come back around to you twice as bad (karma). It is merely to cast spells to protect Trump from making bad desicions in the near future. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starsx 1,849 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing That actually made me laugh out loud 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENCH 15,450 Posted February 25, 2017 Wow someone hasn't had sex in a while !! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sugar Venom 9,658 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYlFhzgrQ_8 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WetCoast 396 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baddisease 17,936 Posted February 25, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing TL;DR - She lives her life and this person is heated about it. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KillKillQueen 1,298 Posted February 26, 2017 Uh huh. Well I think Stranger than a stranger was a cute line and I love it 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankie 1,781 Posted February 26, 2017 Uh huh. Well I think Stranger than a stranger was a cute line and I love it the stranger than a stranger line isnt as bad as people think it is, it makes sense perfectly to me 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
July 21 fam 280 Posted February 26, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing i hope i never see your name on this entire site ever again have fun on your "brake" listening to some other shitty music 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 76,843 Posted February 26, 2017 She's so out of league to do a feature, she doesn't need to stoop that low. If she wants this record to be for us she should be able to get her message across herself, people should come to HER and ask if she wants to be featured. She's too high on the talent scale to feature anyone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cherriesinthespring 5,486 Posted February 26, 2017 She's so out of league to do a feature, she doesn't need to stoop that low. If she wants this record to be for us she should be able to get her message across herself, people should come to HER and ask if she wants to be featured. She's too high on the talent scale to feature anyone. Is this thread supposed to be unpopular Lana opinions among us fans or unpopular among non stans? lol I think most of us on here agree with you 0 Quote LIZARD PEOPLE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankie 1,781 Posted February 26, 2017 Is this thread supposed to be unpopular Lana opinions among us fans or unpopular among non stans? lol I think most of us on here agree with you i would agree most lana stans dont want her to do collabs but then theres the handful of white gays on here who only like lana depending on how much she makes off of spotify streams 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtimeman 8,918 Posted February 26, 2017 Uh huh. Well I think Stranger than a stranger was a cute line and I love it It's fine as a lyric - I can't understand why people not just don't like it, but act as though it's the worst lyric ever written. But then, there are also people who analyse how good a song's lyrics are, based on how many distinct words it includes, so maybe schools just don't teach literary studies well these days. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sugar Venom 9,658 Posted February 26, 2017 She's so out of league to do a feature, she doesn't need to stoop that low. If she wants this record to be for us she should be able to get her message across herself, people should come to HER and ask if she wants to be featured. She's too high on the talent scale to feature anyone. the only person she's allowed to (vocally) collab with is abel . like idk a big spender riverside who??? never heard of her 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delreyfreak 5,341 Posted February 26, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing Girl.... if you hate Lana that much then get off this füçkîñg wêbśîtë!!! All you do is whinge and whinge and whinge and it is honestly disturbing. You say that Lana has a mental disorder but honestly, I feel like you should take a look in the mirror at yourself to start with because you are the biggest Negative Nancy I have ever met. I don't know any sane person who would actually waste their time writing such a massive post like you did all just to complain about a singer on a forum dedicated to them. This is LANA Boards, if you don't like Lana then please don't return because you ruin everyone's experience on this forum by constantly polluting your spew of hateful rhetoric everywhere. P.S. Who the hell are you to judge people's religious beliefs???? If Lana is exploring different religious possibilities that is her decision and it is not your place to judge her for that. off honestly. I would rather have a cactus shoved up my ass than listen to you vomiting your blabbering bullsh!t all the time 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violet 18,978 Posted February 26, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing @STAFF please ban this person b4 they come back 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
latothemoon 11,845 Posted February 26, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing Ur the same person that said Lana has 0 commercial appeal and that her new album would be boring. Why are you even on this site if you dislike Lana so much? :oprah3: :oprah3: 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missdelreyxo 3,786 Posted February 26, 2017 Pitchfork dixit: "After much speculation, a representative for Del Rey has confirmed that the singer-songwriter’s tweet was in reference to the occult ritual dates." Well, I started flipflopping on Lana since the botched UV era when she really infuriated me for the first time. I accepted her lies about her past as part of a struggle to be accepted, the fact that she fckd up her face which stems in a deep insecurity of hers that she isn't attractive enough. But some of her statements were just grating, useless trolling which revealed a self-obsessed personality, someone who enjoys the bittersweet state of faux-depression which originates in "problems" such as the one she revealed indirectly in an interview: “Lana Del Rey exits hotel with the most handsome man ever seen. Who is he?”. The other, more legitimate inner struggle of hers is why isn't she respected by the critics and the music business on the merit of arguably one great song (VG) albeit she wrote hundreds of repetitive and lazy lyrics?. She certainly has lyrical talent that she never exploited to a maximum because of her intellectual laziness, she has an interesting voice capable of wonders but she's not a great singer by any measure and she knows that, so she nervously avoids any live tv apparitions. Her artistic vision was a hit or a a miss (Tropico) but what I really disliked was the carelessness with which she treated everything after and including the UV video. I flipflopped because I cared about her and is harder and harder to to explain for myself why. There were a few determining moments that angered me regarding her public behavior which made me distance myself from her music but I kept coming back...: First, was that moronic statement that she wished she was dead. This was so wrong on so many levels, it was pure ungratefulness from an incredibly lucky person who became an artist who is performing before thousands of adoring fans even the next day after that infamous interview. The second, was when she made that statement about FMWUTP when she said she fckd of lot of men in the business to no avail. I'm not a militant feminist but this was beyond grating to imply that giving sexual favors to powerful men is an acceptable route for a woman to success. Of course this was all fantasy, almost all of her real boyfriends were struggling musicians without any power in the business. That just made it even more weird and inappropriate. That was the first moment when I suspected her that she has some mental problems. After these statements I was unable to listen to any of her songs for at least six months. Now I'm witnessing this incredibly stupid and ridiculous situation in which she presents herself as a witch who is participating in ritual of hexing the president of the US. It seems like a silly thing, a laughing matter, but this is just contrasting incredibly with her pretense to be perceived as a serious artist, a thoughtful person involved with philosophy and love for science. I dismissed her interest in philosophy and her Catholicism as shallow, because of her statements made in interviews which explained partly her propensity towards occultism. But still I would never imagined that she would present herself in this cartoonish manner as a "witch", not a figurative but a literal one making strange signs with her hand and presenting moronic schedules for even more moronic rituals. In my book this is called making a fool out of yourself. But why? What was the purpose behind her move? The only rational explanation is that she believes these things which is really sad because that puts me in the situation to question her intellect. How can I listen to her songs and not feeling ridiculous?! Well, for now I stopped listening to Love. I just can't. Lana has a varied fandom: there are the very young and teenagers but there are a more mature audience which would not put up with this easily. I think that she'll lose a lot of serious music lovers who gave her the benefit of the doubt in many questionable moments in her career. But for many people who tried to take her more seriously than a stylistic experiment this could be to much. But I always had the feeling that she doesn't care. I have to take a brake from her again...it's just tiresome and disappointing Imma go remy ma on you and in a minute 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites