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2 minutes ago, Lustformoney said:

Nah those 3 songs make Cocc sound like a masterpiece:bebe: id seriously rather stream lmlylaw

 

yeah idk what she was thinking with these “singles” 

 

honestly now that it’s been a few months since cocc released, i can say it’s a pretty weak album besides tjf, the title track and white dress (in that order :hooker:). all of the rest of the songs are forgettable

 

what’s really sad is these 3 singles are also v forgettable and i’m scared for the rest of the album 

 

i’m even starting to appreciate nfr more and more now

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I feel there is an element of sexism via labelling Lana “pop” her music is not that different from Chris Isaac or many other singers. Her sound is too soluble to be pop and lacks the standard progression of pop songs.

I even heard a band try and say that UV was poppy the other day , well I guess pink floyd is aswell.

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On 5/22/2021 at 12:18 AM, Contemplating God said:

Please don't slaughter me, but I like the Blue Banisters singer cover (and likely album cover) MUCH more than the Chemtrails album cover :bebe:

Noel Krug cover still counts as official so that's a choice...

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9 hours ago, 99centlips said:

i’m even starting to appreciate nfr more and more now

 

LOL, me yesterday, blasting nfr for the first time :creep:

I don't think this is a good thing but let's see, maybe this new album will have more a bit of a variety sonically/production-wise


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On 5/23/2021 at 3:35 AM, evalionisameme said:

I feel there is an element of sexism via labelling Lana “pop” her music is not that different from Chris Isaac or many other singers. Her sound is too soluble to be pop and lacks the standard progression of pop songs.

I even heard a band try and say that UV was poppy the other day , well I guess pink floyd is aswell.

 

i never understood why people call her a "pop girl" when she's really not a pop artist, i know the definition of "pop music" isn't really clear, some people think pop music is "popular music" and some people (including myself) see it as a genre, songs like diet mountain dew, radio, and without you definitely feel like "pop" songs but a lot of her work is alternative, rock, or folk, you couldn't convince me that bel air, is this happiness, cruel world, swan song, yosemite, etc. are pop songs :whatever2:

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47 minutes ago, Surf Noir said:

 

i never understood why people call her a "pop girl" when she's really not a pop artist, i know the definition of "pop music" isn't really clear, some people think pop music is "popular music" and some people (including myself) see it as a genre, songs like diet mountain dew, radio, and without definitely feel like "pop" songs but a lot of her work is alternative, rock, or folk, you couldn't convince me that bel air, is this happiness, cruel world, swan song, yosemite, etc. are pop songs :whatever2:

There are elements of pop here and there sure but she’s done so many mixed genres like soul, jazz,psych,Americana etc that I just feel the term is redundant and odd for her.

I also see pop as a clear genre-what else would I call “thriller” or “baby one more time”

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1 hour ago, BluebirdXO said:

Lana is pop. Not the typical mainstream pop, but it still pop. Her less pop-ish albuns was UV and maybe HM 


Interesting topic. I wouldn't say she's a pop artist just because she reached success with her first album. "Born To Die" indeed has pop-viability, imo: the singles can all translate to pop radio quite well). Enya has a number one song and a few other hits, which granted her visibility on the charts and airplay on pop radio stations, but that wouldn't make her a pop artist, right? 

 


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1 hour ago, BlueJeans said:


Interesting topic. I wouldn't say she's a pop artist just because she reached success with her first album. "Born To Die" indeed has pop-viability, imo: the singles can all translate to pop radio quite well). Enya has a number one song and a few other hits, which granted her visibility on the charts and airplay on pop radio stations, but that wouldn't make her a pop artist, right? 

 

 

I believe in this definition of pop:

 

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Pop music is a genre of popular music which originated in its modern form in the 1950s, deriving from rock and roll. The terms popular music and pop music are often used interchangeably, even though the former is a description of music which is popular. As a genre, pop music is very eclectic, often borrowing elements from other styles including urban, dance, rock, Latin and country; nonetheless, there are core elements which define pop. Such include generally short-to-medium length songs, written in a basic format, as well as the common employment of repeated choruses, melodic tunes, and catchy hooks. So-called "pure pop" music, such as power pop, features all these elements, using electric guitars, drums and bass for instrumentation; in the case of such music, the main goal is usually that of being pleasurable to listen to, rather than having much artistic depth. Pop music is generally thought of as a genre which is commercially recorded and desires to have a mass audience appeal.

 

 

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I think the term 'pop' has evolved over time to encompass a very universal sound of music that is easily palatable. I don't say that in a way to discredit pop artists, but I wouldn't categorize Lana's music as 'easily digestible' - her 'hits' have never been as glossy and lyrically-straightforward as some of the music that tops the charts these days. 

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I thought hearing the NFR intrumentals would change my mind about the album, making me like it more, but sadly they don't. It just gives me even more of an ability to pick out where I wish things were different (e.g. the strings not being so muffled. I wish they were clearer). I can hear more of Jack's editing where he makes instruments jump in and out randomly, and to me it just sounds like an error even tho he did it on purpose. And don't even get me started on how generally terrible HIAB and HTD are.

 

I do LOVE cinnamon girl though, Doin Time is splendid, and I quite like California too, but it ends too suddenly.  

 

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5 minutes ago, Ultra Violet said:

I thought hearing the NFR intrumentals would change my mind about the album, making me like it more, but sadly they don't. It just gives me even more of an ability to pick out where I wish things were different

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9 minutes ago, Ultra Violet said:

I thought hearing the NFR intrumentals would change my mind about the album, making me like it more, but sadly they don't. It just gives me even more of an ability to pick out where I wish things were different (e.g. the strings not being so muffled. I wish they were clearer). I can hear more of Jack's editing where he makes instruments jump in and out randomly, and to me it just sounds like an error even tho he did it on purpose. And don't even get me started on how generally terrible HIAB and HTD are.

 

I do LOVE cinnamon girl though, Doin Time is splendid, and I quite like California too, but it ends too suddenly.  

 

 

Rick Nowels was the GOAT. I miss him on Lana's production.


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56 minutes ago, rosesofsaigon said:

 

Rick Nowels was the GOAT. I miss him on Lana's production.

I love TNBAR instrumental- forgot to say that. Definitely liked his work with Lana more than Jack's. LFL instrumentals are actually fascinating as hell

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4 minutes ago, Be Free said:

I listened to the new songs just twice because they don't have replay value imo :poordat:


It was the same for me! But after the third or fourth time something clicked and I fell in love with them :party:

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Wildflower Wildfire was my immediate favorite of the three. Blue Banisters had somewhat better lyrics, but it had to grow on me. I’m so shocked Text Book got so much love from people. :scoff: The BLM lyric makes me cringe so hard. I LOVE switch-ups in songs, which is why West Coast was truly an amazing experience the first time I heard it and still remains to me one of her best songs. But in Text Book? It sounds like a mess. I get offended every time someone compares it to West Coast or even claims it’s the best of the three...:tanisha: NOPE. Absolutely not. I don’t like the production. I just don’t like the song at all. I wish it was never released~ and that is TRULY my most unpopular opinion. :icant:

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