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46 minutes ago, Crimson and Clover said:

I was so excited for it with the snippet and I still think the verses are great, but the chorus is too adult contemporary for me :eek: I literally sound like Josh Groban whenever I sing along to it 


lmao this is my problem w Arcadia and beautiful as well- corny and generic


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3 hours ago, West Coast said:

I honestly feel like I'm the only one that finds 'Arcadia' to be insufferable. From the first time she teased it I was enthralled with the opening line, but the song as a whole now... :noparty:

same tbh , I have refrained from listening to the leak, im gonna wait till the 22nd, but Arcadia has just not been it for me ... 

the whole "a cross on the hill, lost little girl" it just doesn't flow it feels like she couldn't form the right words, like the adhd hit and she got bored of trying at making it lyrically genius... it isn't bad but it just kinda annoys me 

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7 hours ago, YourGirl666 said:
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Blue Banisters is not a magnum opus or a masterpiece, it has the same problems as UV: irregular tracklist and bad song choices (scrapping Fine China twice was the worst mistake ever). Besides that, the lyrics are sometimes too much, the transitions are not that good and there are too many sounds that don't really fit together on the same record. I love the production tho, even the weird instrumental choices like BBS/TB post choruses. I can't even totally compare it to LFL, cause, at least in BB's case, all/most of the songs range from great tracks to masterpieces (the lack of a Coachella moment is so relieving). My rate is 7/10.

 

ugh girl i wanted to stan you so bad but i can’t take this uv slander 


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We've talked about it in here before but she really does need to stop with these diary-like lyrics. Enough.

Ever since VBBOTG, it's as if she thinks that every single word in her diary is so fantastic that needs to be bestowed upon the world in the form of a song or poem. As I've said before, there's no filtering, and there's also no development of thoughts. 

I also don't understand the people who say such lyrics are relatable. I go swimming in my friends' pools too but I don't listen to Blue Banisters and tear up because Jenny swam in Lana's pool. 

Her lyrics of the past invoked feelings because the ideas and statements were more developed and therefore much more meaningful. There was an element of wisdom and now that's missing. 

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You only need to compare the lyrics of the older songs on BB to those of the newer to see what I mean. 

I hope she takes a long break before she threatens to release her next album (covers excluded) because I think, without one, it's gonna be more of the same

 


Thanks for buying me my meal at Denny's and my shit at Home Depot. Thanks for that, kids. Luv ya

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On 10/15/2021 at 2:21 PM, baddisease said:

Honeymoon is Lana's weakest record.

This deserves a warning point:true:


' I think I need to add that song, "Dealer ", where I'm just screaming my head off. People don't know what it sounds like when I yell. And I do yell.':scream:

And she finally did:gurl:

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4 hours ago, Rorman Nockwell said:

We've talked about it in here before but she really does need to stop with these diary-like lyrics. Enough.

Ever since VBBOTG, it's as if she thinks that every single word in her diary is so fantastic that needs to be bestowed upon the world in the form of a song or poem. As I've said before, there's no filtering, and there's also no development of thoughts. 

I also don't understand the people who say such lyrics are relatable. I go swimming in my friends' pools too but I don't listen to Blue Banisters and tear up because Jenny swam in Lana's pool. 

Her lyrics of the past invoked feelings because the ideas and statements were more developed and therefore much more meaningful. There was an element of wisdom and now that's missing. 

Possible album spoiler statement

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You only need to compare the lyrics of the older songs on BB to those of the newer to see what I mean. 

I hope she takes a long break before she threatens to release her next album (covers excluded) because I think, without one, it's gonna be more of the same

 

In response to your spoilered text, that is what I feared the album would feel like. 

I haven't heard it yet but the older songs being the best part is what I expected.

Kinda can't wait to see fans who hadn't heard the previous songs be saying "she still has it, [all the older songs] are her best work!" When it's like, yes because they weren't written alongside the creation of this album :defeated:

 

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1 minute ago, Thunder Revenant said:

I love that Living Legend, Cherry Blossom and NOTG were unchanged on BB

Agree!! The run from NOTG to SC is really beautiful too 

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NOTG makes me emotional & then LL fully makes me cry :trisha:

 


' I think I need to add that song, "Dealer ", where I'm just screaming my head off. People don't know what it sounds like when I yell. And I do yell.':scream:

And she finally did:gurl:

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Based on what I heard from people who don't worship everything she releases, Lana definitely values quantity over quality. She really feels the need to release an album every year full of mediocre songs and a couple of decent ones instead of wanting to wait a couple of years until she has a spark of inspiration. She started from having no skips in BTD, UV and HM, to having a couple of in LFL and since then she has more and more skips and the songs being background noise. I don't have the leaked songs but I feel like half of the album will be skips. I look forward because it's Lana but I don't have high expectations. I wish she experimented with higher tempos or more upbeat songs. 


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10 hours ago, bigspender said:

ugh girl i wanted to stan you so bad but i can’t take this uv slander 

Sorry, but even though her best songs run is CW-PWIC, the rest feels incomplete and somehow incoherent. I love the songs from the second act of UV tho, I just dislike them together

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11 hours ago, shady said:

Based on what I heard from people who don't worship everything she releases, Lana definitely values quantity over quality. She really feels the need to release an album every year full of mediocre songs and a couple of decent ones instead of wanting to wait a couple of years until she has a spark of inspiration. She started from having no skips in BTD, UV and HM, to having a couple of in LFL and since then she has more and more skips and the songs being background noise. I don't have the leaked songs but I feel like half of the album will be skips. I look forward because it's Lana but I don't have high expectations. I wish she experimented with higher tempos or more upbeat songs. 

I agree and appreciate this comment.

However, I think Lana has been totally capable of releasing records year after year in the past with BTD and Paradise 2012, then UV 2014 and Honeymoon 2015. She was actually inspired back then but because she's been in the same place with much of the same people from NFR, through CotCC and BB it's more of the same and repetitive very lacking production and as @Rorman Nockwell says perfectly, uninspired diary entry lyrics. She's simply not going to get another spark of inspiration if she stays in the same place that she's imagining leaving since 2019 (actually since 2015 if we count Prisoner with the Weeknd).

I think her last three albums are very reflective of Lana "settling" in the wrong place. I don't wish her life to be crazy and unpredictable again, but I think she needs something other than LA to feel happier. 

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What's relatable about being drunk, traveling around the country club with sugar daddies who love cocaine or men who hit you and it feeling like a kiss? You can pick and choose almost any line from any LDR song ever to relate or not relate to it. No, I don't relate to swimming in a pool with Nikki Lane and Jenny either, but I have related to a man promising me happiness and a future, to then never show and that close intimacy with friends and family to help heal from the pain. There are valid points being brought up here, especially about the stream of consciousness nature of her recent lyricism which isn't for everyone.  If you're mad about the mythology of Lana Del Rey being shattered into pieces or just plain don't like her lyricism lately, just say that though. Don't pick and choose one single line from a four minute song and not expect people to turn that around on almost any of her past work. Y'all are acting like songs such as National Anthem, Carmen, Sad Girl, Fucked My Way Up to the Top, Lolita are straight out of the Shakespeare quartos :whoopi:


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1 hour ago, Thunder said:

What's relatable about being drunk, traveling around the country club with sugar daddies who love cocaine or men who hit you and it feeling like a kiss? You can pick and choose almost any line from any LDR song ever to relate or not relate to it. No, I don't relate to swimming in a pool with Nikki Lane and Jenny either, but I have related to a man promising me happiness and a future, to then never show and that close intimacy with friends and family to help heal from the pain. There are valid points being brought up here, especially about the stream of consciousness nature of her recent lyricism which isn't for everyone.  If you're mad about the mythology of Lana Del Rey being shattered into pieces or just plain don't like her lyricism lately, just say that though. Don't pick and choose one single line from a four minute song and not expect people to turn that around on almost any of her past work. Y'all are acting like songs such as National Anthem, Carmen, Sad Girl, Fucked My Way Up to the Top, Lolita are straight out of the Shakespeare quartos :whoopi:

I cannot speak for others but this is not what my post meaned. I was saying that people praise her current lyrics as being somehow more relatable than the ones of the past, and I don't agree with that. I think that that's rather insulting to her and her past work, because I think she 100% made songs about Hollywood, etc, relatable and that was because of the expression of her thoughts and feelings - not about the scenarios themselves. I mean I don't have an LA boyfriend waiting for me under the palms but songs like 13 Beaches still resonate.

So whether or not you relate to a particular event is not the point; the point is that, in the past, her lyricism was more abstract and now it is very matter-of-fact. The fact that it was more abstract allowed me to relate no matter what the scenario was that she was singing about. These newer songs are less about the thoughts and feelings she derives from the events in her life, and more about what is actually happening in her life expressed in a diary-like manner. So imo they're more difficult to relate to, unless one is talking about the actual events and so I brought up the swimming pool to express that nobody wants, or cares, about relating to such mundane events. The thoughts and feelings are still there, but less so, and it's like a shift in lyrical priorities.

 


Thanks for buying me my meal at Denny's and my shit at Home Depot. Thanks for that, kids. Luv ya

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