Lana covers "Complex" magazine - August/September Issue

[leaked_version 10,498]

You are some German swinger I suppose. The most despicable people in the world.

You seem to be ugly and bitter. The only people who complain about others having sex outside of a relationship. Fucking is no charity.

[DominicMars 1,761]

You people made this thread very weird with your pseudo psychological examinations of someone you've never met.

 

When's this mag out physically and where can I buy?

[COLACNT 5,170]

For me this overall boring interview is changing something important regarding my perception of her.

 

She created me the image of a good girl that fantasizes about being bad.

 

these two statements kind of say it all, don't they? you had a certain idea of who you thought she was, and for you, i'm sure it fulfilled some kind of late-night masturbatory fantasy. now that she's gone and contradicted your [narrowly] wholesome perception of her, you're no longer a fan of her or her music? lmao k 

 

guess that whole lolita thing really holds some power, eh??? *keeping that in mind* thx 

 

edit: men are so fucking weird lmaooooooooooooooooooo

[ilovetati 15,295]

You are some German swinger I suppose. The most despicable people in the world.

[Auto-Tuned Loon 650]

@@FormerLanaFan WTF. Slut-shaming's my shtick. ASSHOLE!

[butterflies 3,039]

This is her way of promo and you have fight over this...

 

Lmao

 

Sex sells everything.

[Lanakai 661]

Don't feed the troll you guys...

[Wilde_child 490]

I look up to liberated women who have sex with whomever they want. It is ok. I could never do it coz I am so repressed.

Sexuality is not a dirty thing, it is beautiful. It comes from God. Religion really messed with people's heads making them feel unnaturally sinful. Nothing wrong with a good sweaty fuck if it is not illegal.

Jesus... A woman can screw around and still be a good person, daughter, citizen, whatever.

I can't believe this sexism... I only worry about Lana getting emotionally involved with a jerk and getting hurt.

Hope she gets all the action she needs and is fully satisfied and appreciated as a woman. Get it baby!! Write us more sexy songs.

[LiamViljoen 908]

Is no one else laughing their asses off that one fucking magazine article led someone to abandon their appreciation of an artists discography entirely?

 

And they actually changed their name to "FormerLanaFan"... Is this a fucking joke?

Maybe they just got frustrated when we all attacked them and decided to stage their own dissillusionment so that they could leave...

[PrettyBaby 2,213]

[not sure how I managed to double-post with one in-between]

[Chris Cuomo 3,315]

Slow down with the dude. But it is my business at some level, I invested time and money in her artistry. Now, I cannot listen to her music it's making me nauseous. And I wasn't a casual fan. I don't project anything that is mine, I'm pointing out the incredible contradictory bullshit that she's putting out. I defended her many times online but this undefendable, the amount of mockery that will come towards her will break her down and I think that she lost all the credibility that she worked hard on since her stupid SNL show.

 

lmao @ u unstanning ldr in a day. sort out your own problems first u clearly have some!

[PrettyBaby 2,213]

 

Lana's polyamory (if that is the right word... I think she has used the word "polygamy" but that doesn't seem to fit either) has been making me uncomfortable for awhile now -- but also opening my eyes to what it must be like for people who openly defy conventional mores. And frankly, some conventional mores need defying.

 

I say this as someone who wishes there was more room in our culture for both women and men who wish to pursue celibacy before marriage. I grew up in purity culture; I was raised to see "girls who do" as something Other, and my parents even questioned whether a close female friend of mine was "a good person" upon finding out she was sexually active. I am ashamed to admit I bought into it long enough to wonder how I would relate to my own daughter if she grew up to be someone "believing in sex before marriage."

 

THIS is cultural insanity. THIS is what is mentally unbalanced: pitting "good girls" against "bad girls," friends against friends, even mothers against daughters. This is what should outrage us: shaming women (regardless of their choices) for being embodied as sexual beings, shaming men (and women) for being attracted to them as sexual beings, and passing on plenty of sexual hang-ups to our daughters AND our sons, whether they are people who "do" or "don't."

 

The double standard doesn't work for us anymore, if it ever did. And attempting the pseudo-egalitarian solution of slut-shaming men as well as women doesn't cut it either. The world is becoming more complicated (culturally... sexually... ) and maybe that scares some people. But maybe this is an opportunity to find other ways of encouraging each other to be more loving, respectful, honorable human beings instead of resorting to the implication "just be more like me so I can feel better about you as well as myself." Many of us are not buying it anymore, and for that I am grateful. For my daughter's sake, and for the sake of other people's sons and daughters, I am grateful.

 

LDR is not alone in portraying female sexual empowerment; as others have pointed out, artists like Miley Cyrus are creating space for women to be fully embodied as themselves (for better or worse -- it is possible to see both, and still welcome the greater space). Lana is just more overtly analytical about it. I say we need her voice, even if I personally disagree with hers sometimes. I hope she doesn't suffer remorse for it. I hope she realizes she is on the front lines of something big -- even if she didn't ask for the confrontation, I hope she decides that being true to herself is worth it.

[Wilde_child 490]

Nicely put!

Furthermore, I tend to believe there is a difference between those, from either gender, who use others selfishly and without consideration to their feelings (those pejorative terms womaniser and maneater) and those who share themselves and enjoy their sexuality freely.

 

 

Lana's polyamory (if that is the right word... I think she has used the word "polygamy" but that doesn't seem to fit either) has been making me uncomfortable for awhile now -- but also opening my eyes to what it must be like for people who openly defy conventional mores. And frankly, some conventional mores need defying.

 

I say this as someone who wishes there was more room in our culture for both women and men who wish to pursue celibacy before marriage. I grew up in purity culture; I was raised to see "girls who do" as something Other, and my parents even questioned whether a close female friend of mine was "a good person" upon finding out she was sexually active. I am ashamed to admit I bought into it long enough to wonder how I would relate to my own daughter if she grew up to be someone "believing in sex before marriage."

 

THIS is cultural insanity. THIS is what is mentally unbalanced: pitting "good girls" against "bad girls," friends against friends, even mothers against daughters. This is what should outrage us: shaming women (regardless of their choices) for being embodied as sexual beings, shaming men (and women) for being attracted to them as sexual beings, and passing on plenty of sexual hang-ups to our daughters AND our sons, whether they are people who "do" or "don't."

 

The double standard doesn't work for us anymore, if it ever did. And attempting the pseudo-egalitarian solution of slut-shaming men as well as women doesn't cut it either. The world is becoming more complicated (culturally... sexually... ) and maybe that scares some people. But maybe this is an opportunity to find other ways of encouraging each other to be more loving, respectful, honorable human beings instead of resorting to the implication "just be more like me so I can feel better about you as well as myself." Many of us are not buying it anymore, and for that I am grateful. For my daughter's sake, and for the sake of other people's sons and daughters, I am grateful.

 

LDR is not alone in portraying female sexual empowerment; as others have pointed out, artists like Miley Cyrus are creating space for women to be fully embodied as themselves (for better or worse -- it is possible to see both, and still welcome the greater space). Lana is just more overtly analytical about it. I say we need her voice, even if I personally disagree with hers sometimes. I hope she doesn't suffer remorse for it. I hope she realizes she is on the front lines of something big -- even if she didn't ask for the confrontation, I hope she decides that being true to herself is worth it.

[LifeisBeautiful 152]

@@FormerLanaFan What? Really??? How did you manage to listen to an artist's back catalog of songs, 75% of which are about illicit affairs with men, and be okay with that all this time? You're upset because the female artist of said songs actually admitted publicly that she DID sleep with lots of people? Logic, where art thou?

 

Personally I've always kind of admired women who are so open with their sexuality. There's nothing slutty about it unless you are dishonest and hurting people left and right. If you're horny and wanna get laid, if you're lonely, it's cool that a woman can go and take care of that. Just tell the guy that's what's up. I wish my parents' religion and society hadn't shamed me. I wish I loved my body enough to get it naked with just anyone.

 

There should be more outlets for women to appear the same way men have been sexually portrayed in the media. Women are not little delicate flowers who want only romance and marriage. Sometimes we just wanna get F-ed!

[DeadAgainst 1,514]

The Independent's gorls have her back http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/screwing-your-way-to-the-top-good-for-lana-del-rey-for-helping-kill-that-myth-9624202.html

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/lana-del-rey-the-latest-powerful-woman-that-we-want-to-see-as-just-another-toy-9573716.htm

 

  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pictures/virgen-del-carmen-procession-in-tenerife-9612478.html

[Coney Island King 25,008]

Yesssss Lana get that record industry dick yessss!!!!!!

[CherryGalore 99]

 

Lana's polyamory (if that is the right word... I think she has used the word "polygamy" but that doesn't seem to fit either) has been making me uncomfortable for awhile now -- but also opening my eyes to what it must be like for people who openly defy conventional mores. And frankly, some conventional mores need defying.

 

I say this as someone who wishes there was more room in our culture for both women and men who wish to pursue celibacy before marriage. I grew up in purity culture; I was raised to see "girls who do" as something Other, and my parents even questioned whether a close female friend of mine was "a good person" upon finding out she was sexually active. I am ashamed to admit I bought into it long enough to wonder how I would relate to my own daughter if she grew up to be someone "believing in sex before marriage."

 

THIS is cultural insanity. THIS is what is mentally unbalanced: pitting "good girls" against "bad girls," friends against friends, even mothers against daughters. This is what should outrage us: shaming women (regardless of their choices) for being embodied as sexual beings, shaming men (and women) for being attracted to them as sexual beings, and passing on plenty of sexual hang-ups to our daughters AND our sons, whether they are people who "do" or "don't."

 

The double standard doesn't work for us anymore, if it ever did. And attempting the pseudo-egalitarian solution of slut-shaming men as well as women doesn't cut it either. The world is becoming more complicated (culturally... sexually... ) and maybe that scares some people. But maybe this is an opportunity to find other ways of encouraging each other to be more loving, respectful, honorable human beings instead of resorting to the implication "just be more like me so I can feel better about you as well as myself." Many of us are not buying it anymore, and for that I am grateful. For my daughter's sake, and for the sake of other people's sons and daughters, I am grateful.

 

LDR is not alone in portraying female sexual empowerment; as others have pointed out, artists like Miley Cyrus are creating space for women to be fully embodied as themselves (for better or worse -- it is possible to see both, and still welcome the greater space). Lana is just more overtly analytical about it. I say we need her voice, even if I personally disagree with hers sometimes. I hope she doesn't suffer remorse for it. I hope she realizes she is on the front lines of something big -- even if she didn't ask for the confrontation, I hope she decides that being true to herself is worth it.

 

It's really interesting for me to read this. Not being from America, what you portray here really stands out as something very... foreign to me. In my country you're ultimately regarded as strange (and perverted! ha) if you don't have sex before marriage. Sex is seen as a very natural part of our lives, our physicality (which it is) that shouldn't be denied. So when Lana says she's slept with a lot of guys in the industry, I don't even raise an eyebrow. She probably says it tongue in cheek, even so - in some parts of the world she's not on the front lines of something big in terms of sexuality - just your regular gal. But I understand that it's different in the States and because of that I really agree with you - her voice is needed!

 

Just a footnote: to me Miley Cyrus stands for the total opposite of female sexual empowerment; what she does seems to be driven by her awareness of "a spectator", whereas Lana is doing what she wants for herself. It seems

[FormerLanaFan 169]

Well I wanted to adjust some last things about my account and I saw some of your replies:

 

You seem to be ugly and bitter. The only people who complain about others having sex outside of a relationship. Fucking is no charity.

I don't want to evaluate my looks but financially I'm ok so I could pay for sex daily If this is what you mean

 

i'm sure it fulfilled some kind of late-night masturbatory fantasy. 

edit: men are so fucking weird lmaooooooooooooooooooo

I appreciate your wit but you're off base: I'm married, I have a daughter and I didn't fantasized about a pop singer in a long time. Lana is a beautiful woman but I never thought sexually about her. I always had a protective attitude towards her that's the reason why I was drawn psychologically in the insane bullying online against her (BTW my wife don't likes Lana)

 

Is no one else laughing their asses off that one fucking magazine article led someone to abandon their appreciation of an artists discography entirely?
And they actually changed their name to "FormerLanaFan"... Is this a fucking joke?
Maybe they just got frustrated when we all attacked them and decided to stage their own dissillusionment so that they could leave...

For me the artist persona is important (Wagner it's the only exception). What she said rubbed me in a wrong way. Right now I'm unable to listen to her. I was interested in the articles written online about her but now I don't want to click on any of them titled "Lana Del Rey used sex to get head", "Lana Del Rey claims she's 'slept with a lot of guys", "Lana Del Rey admits sleeping with many in the industry" and so on, it's sickening. I don't leave this forum because of the "attacks, I dragged Lana haters to the ground on other forums, I leave because I don't have anything else to say. Lana is a closed chapter for me."

 

@@FormerLanaFan What?  Really???  How did you manage to listen to an artist's back catalog of songs, 75% of which are about elicit affairs with men, and be okay with that all this time?  You're upset because the female artist of said songs actually admitted publicly that she DID sleep with lots of people?   Logic, where art thou?

 

Personally I've always kind of admired women who are so open with their sexuality.  There's nothing slutty about it unless you are dishonest and hurting people left and right.  If you're horny and wanna get laid, if you're lonely, it's cool that a woman can go and take care of that.  Just tell the guy that's what's up.  I wish my parents' religion and society hadn't shamed me.  I wish I loved my body enough to get it naked with just anyone.

 

There should be more outlets for women to appear the same way men have been sexually portrayed in the media.  Women are not little delicate flowers who want only romance and marriage.  Sometimes we just wanna get F-ed!

What about Video Games, Blue Jeans, Dark Paradise and so on, you were really attracted to an cynical artist that promotes casual, emotionless sex? I don't think so, you were drawn to Lana's romanticism, any Lana song is about investing emotions in a relationship. I'm quite baffled that some of you tried to counter argue that Lana is a promoter of casual sex in 75% of her songs, it's quite the opposite

 

I hope that you (@LifeisBeautiful) will found someone who will love you for what you are, sex will be part of that relationship. 

 

I'm really deploring some of your views on sexuality. I can understand it to a point because most of you are teenagers and the sex urges are just too strong at that age. Your position on sexuality isn't a surprise to me given that your generation has grown up on internet porn. Some of you think that what women and men want from sex is what you see in those inept productions. Be real, having casual sex (paid for) it's not hard to get in these days, it's not always fun (the myth of casual sex) but if you'll live your life that way you'll become an lonely empty shell. It's much harder to have a meaningful relationship with someone. Lana sung that her "Pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola", well from my experience every pussy taste the same, it's just a moist hole (and I think that women can say something similar about men). If that you're after, be my guest.

 

In my view, casual sex will always be morally inferior to serial monogamy which is the norm in any society and I think that Lana will be judged by the majority of people negatively. She always was a mess of powerful contradictory statements and the slightest emotional signal can tip anyone over to like or dislike her. Now I dislike her, profoundly. I don't trust any of her messages and I just don't care about her anymore. You cannot do or say anything you want unless you're ready to bear the consequences. I don't think Lana understands the consequences. Barrie's gone, Carozzini is nowhere and I have a feeling that James Franco would not be around for her...Who wants to be romantically involved with a self admitted whore?! I bet that people from her former and current label are offended by her statements and some of the fans will reevaluate her, I'm certain of that even if they aren't say it loudly.

 

I don't want to offend anyone these were my opinions. Wish you the best

[longtimeman 8,066]

As much as we'll miss your condescension and having someone around to give us moral guidance, I have to farewell you with the traditional 'don't let the door hit your ass on the way out'. If you don't want to offend people, maybe you should not rush to call someone you've never met a 'whore'. English is obviously not your first language, so you might not pick up on some of the subtlety behind what Lana is saying, but it's not her fault that you're ignorant.

 

Have fun sticking to morally pure artists, and I hope your wife never reads what you think about her body.

[Chris Cuomo 3,315]

Well I wanted to adjust some last things about my account and I saw some of your replies:

 

I don't want to evaluate my looks but financially I'm ok so I could pay for sex daily If this is what you mean

 

I appreciate your wit but you're off base: I'm married, I have a daughter and I didn't fantasized about a pop singer in a long time. Lana is a beautiful woman but I never thought sexually about her. I always had a protective attitude towards her that's the reason why I was drawn psychologically in the insane bullying online against her (BTW my wife don't likes Lana)

 

For me the artist persona is important (Wagner it's the only exception). What she said rubbed me in a wrong way. Right now I'm unable to listen to her. I was interested in the articles written online about her but now I don't want to click on any of them titled "Lana Del Rey used sex to get head", "Lana Del Rey claims she's 'slept with a lot of guys", "Lana Del Rey admits sleeping with many in the industry" and so on, it's sickening. I don't leave this forum because of the "attacks, I dragged Lana haters to the ground on other forums, I leave because I don't have anything else to say. Lana is a closed chapter for me."

 

What about Video Games, Blue Jeans, Dark Paradise and so on, you were really attracted to an cynical artist that promotes casual, emotionless sex? I don't think so, you were drawn to Lana's romanticism, any Lana song is about investing emotions in a relationship. I'm quite baffled that some of you tried to counter argue that Lana is a promoter of casual sex in 75% of her songs, it's quite the opposite

 

I hope that you (@LifeisBeautiful) will found someone who will love you for what you are, sex will be part of that relationship.

 

I'm really deploring some of your views on sexuality. I can understand it to a point because most of you are teenagers and the sex urges are just too strong at that age. Your position on sexuality isn't a surprise to me given that your generation has grown up on internet porn. Some of you think that what women and men want from sex is what you see in those inept productions. Be real, having casual sex (paid for) it's not hard to get in these days, it's not always fun (the myth of casual sex) but if you'll live your life that way you'll become an lonely empty shell. It's much harder to have a meaningful relationship with someone. Lana sung that her "Pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola", well from my experience every pussy taste the same, it's just a moist hole (and I think that women can say something similar about men). If that you're after, be my guest.

 

In my view, casual sex will always be morally inferior to serial monogamy which is the norm in any society and I think that Lana will be judged by the majority of people negatively. She always was a mess of powerful contradictory statements and the slightest emotional signal can tip anyone over to like or dislike her. Now I dislike her, profoundly. I don't trust any of her messages and I just don't care about her anymore. You cannot do or say anything you want unless you're ready to bear the consequences. I don't think Lana understands the consequences. Barrie's gone, Carozzini is nowhere and I have a feeling that James Franco would not be around for her...Who wants to be romantically involved with a self admitted whore?! I bet that people from her former and current label are offended by her statements and some of the fans will reevaluate her, I'm certain of that even if they aren't say it loudly.

 

I don't want to offend anyone these were my opinions. Wish you the best

who taught u about sex? mother superior?

 

literally all her assumed exes were musicians. idgi