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the only thing i'm mad about her messaging a few fans is that it wasn't me but that's because we've never formed any type of relationship and she has no fuckin clue who i am.

 

i know there's a lot of random people who have known her for a reallllllly long time, whether it's from college or her days in NYC or they randomly crossed paths at some bar and stayed in touch. if i became famous i would do the same thing and always remember those people and keep in touch with them because they were there since day one.

 

i also know there's some fans who are more recent she's closer to but that's not in her control or ours. some people have more privilege or money and they're able to travel more to see her shows or maybe they live near her and always showing up where she shows up. 

 

none of it is our control. lana is so grateful for her fans she always has beeen and at her shows is so personable unlike so many artists so let's just control what we can and the rest baby is just the way the universe rolls. 

 


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28 minutes ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said:

I don’t mean this in a “dragging” way at all, but how are you defining the word “elitist”? 
 

Lana providing a handful of fans with contact information isn’t inherently negative—I’d argue that it’s the more responsible decision; I think it would be a bit unreasonable (and likely impossible) for her hold the same level of contact for all of her listeners. 
 

Also, I don’t really find her using the honeymoon account even remotely hypocritical when you look at her intention of her exiting social media: narrowing the circle of people with access to her life with preference to those she considers friends. Even if she decided to pull a 180 and returned to all social media, she’s allowed to change her mind. 


Her intentions are to protect herself and her privacy, and I think that respecting her self-preservation (even if it means not everyone has equal access to her life) should be the priority. Again, no shade at all—just offering another perspective

i’m glad that you’re actually opening your mind to this rather than just opting for the useless touch some grass. anyway, i’m not saying she should try to contact every single one of her fans, i’m saying she shouldn’t at all, that would be the responsible decision to make out of the three imo. her personally picking a couple of fans out of many and offering them exclusive privileges (that they brag about too) is the definition of elitism. i also know it can be explained as her trying to keep her circle tight but that doesn’t mean it can’t be interpreted the other way too (even if that wasn’t her intention). 

the HM account is hypocritical to me because she pushed the narrative that she needs a break from the public eye and focus on other skills and hobbies or whatever yet she just can’t seem to get away from social media, no matter how hard she tries. so what’s the point? she should just come back to her official account full time rather than reactivating/deactivating/publicizing HM/privatizing it again/other clownery she’ll manage to do in the future

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girls let’s just move on I’m tired :awk:


“YOUR NAME IS SUN CHILD!!!! BYE.... your real name probably maylee and i just know you look like a cabbage patch doll..white pasty boring straight tennessee fat bitch. GET A GRIP” - Jesus

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some people will get offended & over-anaylze EVERYTHING and it's a huge problem nowadays with people, as well as throwing around certain words when it's so obvious that they have no idea what they mean, lana deactivates her main instagram, with the intention of keeping her circle small & respecting her own privacy, she decides to open up her private instagram, which she hasn't touched since 2018, for a few minutes to share some cute photos and give people the opportunity to follow it, but why should we assume she meant closing off all social media altogether? her honeymoon account was inactive for years and only true fans really know about it, is it a tiny hypocritical that she's active on another account when she said she'd be taking a break from social media? perhaps, and maybe it may feel unfair to some people that she only opened the account for a few minutes, or that she has closer connections to certain fans, but at the end of the day these are very miniscule things and they really should not affect you, it's an instagram page, that's all it is, it isn't an obligation on her end to have all of her fans follow a private account, neither does she have to stay 100% true to absolutely everything she says, especially when it's something as simple as posting on instagram :bye: 

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2 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

i’m glad that you’re actually opening your mind to this rather than just opting for the useless touch some grass. anyway, i’m not saying she should try to contact every single one of her fans, i’m saying she shouldn’t at all, that would be the responsible decision to make out of the three imo. her personally picking a couple of fans out of many and offering them exclusive privileges (that they brag about too) is the definition of elitism. i also know it can be explained as her trying to keep her circle tight but that doesn’t mean it can’t be interpreted the other way too (even if that wasn’t her intention). 

the HM account is hypocritical to me because she pushed the narrative that she needs some a break from the public eye and focus on other skills and hobbies or whatever yet she just can’t seem to get away from social media, no matter how hard she tries. so what’s the point? she should just come back to her official account full time rather than reactivating/deactivating/publicizing HM/privatizing it again/other clownery she’ll manage to do in the future


You really need to drop ‘elitism’ because you aren’t using it properly at all, and that’s not what this is. This is all super dramatic over Lana hand picking a couple fans and using an account she’s had for 6 years. Using the honeymoon account is going to help her connect with her fans while avoiding the hate. I’m really sorry you didn’t follow it in time, but your reaction is quite literally why she’s avoiding social media. You’re calling her an elitist and hypocritical for…what exactly? It’s not like she bragged about reaching out to the fans and said ‘fu’ to everyone else

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1 minute ago, Niko Dealergo said:


You really need to drop ‘elitism’ because you aren’t using it properly at all, and that’s not what this is. This is all super dramatic over Lana hand picking a couple fans and using an account she’s had for 6 years. Using the honeymoon account is going to help her connect with her fans while avoiding the hate. I’m really sorry you didn’t follow it in time, but your reaction is quite literally why she’s avoiding social media. You’re calling her an elitist and hypocritical for…what exactly? It’s not like she bragged about reaching out to the fans and said ‘fu’ to everyone else

i’m not calling her hypocritical or an elitist, it’s just that her actions tend to come off that way regardless of her true intentions. and this isn’t about me not getting to follow her or whatever, i already explained that it doesn’t matter either way because the pictures are available to see elsewhere. 

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2 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

i’m not calling her hypocritical or an elitist, it’s just that her actions tend to come off that way regardless of her true intentions.


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5 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

i’m not calling her hypocritical or an elitist, it’s just that her actions tend to come off that way regardless of her true intentions. and this isn’t about me not getting to follow her or whatever, i already explained that it doesn’t matter either way because the pictures are available to see elsewhere. 

 

just because you think she's be hypocritical or "elitist" doesn't mean she is, or that majority of people will feel that way, at the end of the day, it really is not a big deal at all, it's an instagram page, it's a few fans who have a close connection with her, why does it matter? there's seriously more important issues to worry about, this is exactly the issue with a lot of lana del rey fans or just her critics in general, they over-anaylze & over-criticize everything she does when she didn't mean anything wrong, it's really not that deep

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Just now, Surf Noir said:

 

just because you think she's be hypocritical or "elitist" doesn't mean she is, or that majority of people will feel that way, at the end of the day, it really is not a big deal at all, it's an instagram page, it's a few fans who have a close connection with her, why does it matter? there's seriously more important issues to worry about, this is exactly the issue with a lot of lana del rey fans or just her critics in general, they over-anaylze & over-critize everything she does when she didn't mean anything wrong

this is a discussion board about lana del rey where we discuss everything about lana del rey including lana del rey’s social media activity. why are you expecting me to worry about ‘seriously more important issues’ here out of all places? :awkney:

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10 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

this is a discussion board about lana del rey where we discuss everything about lana del rey including lana del rey’s social media activity. why are you expecting me to worry about ‘seriously more important issues’ here out of all places? :awkney:

 

but you're talking about how lana's being hypocritical & elitist over the fact that she has closer connections to certain fans & what not, i guess you have a point that we have the right to discuss her, and saying "seriously more important issues" is a bit redundant when we're on a lana del rey forum, i just don't see what the issue is, there's a lot more prevelant examples of elitism in the world besides lana's instagram, which affects nobody, i personally don't think it's worth complaining about, i do honestly see why it could be bothersome if a singer is close to a select few fans and offers them her phone number or whatever it may be, so i do understand your point of view a little bit

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25 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

her personally picking a couple of fans out of many and offering them exclusive privileges (that they brag about too) is the definition of elitism.

That’s not elitism, though? Lana has no control over how people will respond to having a relationship with her. You could argue that some fans are being “elitist” (using that word loosely), but there’s nothing to suggest that Lana’s “exclusive privileges” of merely giving contact is enacted to create a sense of superiority in a group especially when she’s stated her intention & is very private about these contacts.
 

I have varying levels of contact and interactions with friends; it doesn’t make me an elitist, and I would be no more of an elitist if my friends bragged about having a relationship with me. 

36 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

the HM account is hypocritical to me because she pushed the narrative that she needs a break from the public eye and focus on other skills and hobbies or whatever yet she just can’t seem to get away from social media, no matter how hard she tries. so what’s the point?

The point is to have more privacy and to largely surround herself with what she feels are her friends as she stated. The people she wants a break from are unlikely those that would follow her lesser known account from 2015 within a two-minute timeframe. She’s consistently spoken out against the toxicity she faces from a subset of the public. Again, even if her intentions contradicted themselves (and it doesn’t appear that they do), she’s allowed to change her mind.


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13 minutes ago, Surf Noir said:

 

but you're talking about how lana's being hypocritical & elitist over the fact that she has closer connections to certain fans & what not, i guess you have a point that we have the right to discuss her, and saying "seriously more important issues" is a bit redundant when we're on a lana del rey forum, i just don't see what the issue is, there's a lot more prevelant examples of elitism in the world besides lana's instagram, which affects nobody, i personally don't think it's worth complaining about, i do honestly see why it could be bothersome if a singer is close to a select few fans and offers them her phone number or whatever it may be, so i do understand your point of view a little bit

someone already asked me what the issue was and i explained that there wasn’t any. i’m just doing what everyone here does, talk about lana stuff. stop trying to create drama out of nothing :awkney:

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Just now, daphnedinkley said:

random question but was the honeymoon account bio always "Honeymoon is alive and breathing"?? if so that is so adorable hahaha i love it

 

as far as I remember, yes (been following since those times)


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1 minute ago, prettywhenimhigh said:

 

as far as I remember, yes (been following since those times)

 

I love it :krylie: now lana carry this energy to ur setlists challenge, Honeymoon deep cuts live WHEN


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8 minutes ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said:

That’s not elitism, though? Lana has no control over how people will respond to having a relationship with her. You could argue that some fans are being “elitist” (using that word loosely), but there’s nothing to suggest that Lana’s “exclusive privileges” of merely giving contact is enacted to create a sense of superiority in a group especially when she’s stated her intention & is very private about these contacts.
 

I have varying levels of contact and interactions with friends; it doesn’t make me an elitist, and I would be no more of an elitist if my friends bragged about having a relationship with me. 

The point is to have more privacy and to largely surround herself with what she feels are her friends as she stated. The people she wants a break from are unlikely those that would follow her lesser known account from 2015 within a two-minute timeframe. She’s consistently spoken out against the toxicity she faces from a subset of the public. Again, even if her intentions contradicted themselves (and it doesn’t appear that they do), she’s allowed to change her mind.

how is it not elitism? is elitism not providing a selected group of people with exclusive content that the rest of us don’t have access to just because they have a quality we don’t (being older fans or whatever despite some of them are actually not)? it may not be elitist from her side but it definitely is from the side of the chosen ones who keep flaunting it. 

your personal situation is incomparable with lana’s, she’s a public figure. her relationship with fans isn’t the same as your relationship with friends who actually perceive you as a person rather than an idol or even a product. 

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13 minutes ago, daphnedinkley said:

 

I love it :krylie: now lana carry this energy to ur setlists challenge, Honeymoon deep cuts live WHEN

 

right?????


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