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  1. Sighs of a Torn Soul liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in Favourite Lana Songs   
    Without You or Dark Paradise
  2. honey is that true liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in Unpopular Lana Opinions   
    I like the this is what makes us girls demo 2 better than the original. It couldve been a great single 
  3. stupidapartmentcomplex liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  4. stupidapartmentcomplex liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  5. Mrs Puff liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  6. Bloody Valentine liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  7. alienprincess liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  8. sweetcinnamoncherry liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  9. lover liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  10. brandon liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  11. honeybadger liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  12. Syyydney liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  13. Hannus liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  14. Deadly Nightshade liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  15. Catgirl liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  16. Nightmare liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  17. theviolence liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     
    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 
     
    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.
     
    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 
  18. pinupgirls liked a post in a topic by Party1949 in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    Thisssss!! It's not the "woke" or political topics itself which bother me in the majority of Love + Fear songs, PTP and Man's World - it's the way the message is conveyed through the surface-level statements. Like "there were riots in America", "Harvey Weinstein went to jail"... it sounds like a listing of trending topics without any exploration, commentary or lyricism. It's not cleverly worded nor has any value as poetry. That's why it all sonds fake as if Marina was tying too hard to give off that vibe of Woke Feminist Icon (C)
     
    I actually really liked Purge the Poison as a song, it's catchy, sounds like TFJ and Froot's lovechild and the production is fresh. The video is great too, I love the ruby slippers and hope to see more Oz references in other visuals. Both of the released songs mention witches as a metaphor for "inconvenient" women, so it'd be great if Marina used some characters of the setting to further develop this comparison
  19. Party1949 liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  20. LanaRayDelMar liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  21. NeverLetMeGo liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  22. sweetcinnamoncherry liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  23. peach perfume liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  24. Escapism liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
  25. rightofjupiter liked a post in a topic by pinupgirls in MARINA (and The Diamonds)   
    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 
     
     
    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”
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