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- Yes you sound like a Madonna pissy fan saying you had read all the books about her and I probably didnt so you advise me to read them. By the way I hardly find the Carol Clerk Bio infamous. I started reading it a while ago and I didnt finish and I would be lying if I said I will ever read a Madonna Bio. What I said was an opinion which didnt require a Bio reading in anyway. Her tour was sold out. A tour from a flop album. A tour from a album with musics that barely played in the radio. She still manages to be more relevant than most artists. Also was one of the most profitable tours of 2012. Like I said I don't think is wonder she joined. She just did it when time of need came. Undergrounds movements are dead. With the internet and all that came with it (twitter, facebook, blogs and all) such movements are underground for a week. If the movement is catchy goes viral very fast. She didn't joy the net because until she released something new didn't need to join. If she had a message to deliver she just books herself in some famous show and says some "infamous quotes" and delivers her message. Aka Reductive. Music is also a representation, a expression of our time. If her music failed to transmite or create relevant discussion of what she was trying to express she did what any smart person would do: did her speech through images. Aka the image that was superimposed over the forehead of Marine Le Pen as part of a montage that also showed Madonna with a Hitler mustache. That single image was talked about for ages not only in gossip sites but in newspapers. No need to twitt about it. ANd yes that was 21 century and relevant a lot more relevant today that old news equality or sex with a winp speech. You may ask me for anything. But first may I say that the way you express yourself makes you sound rude?

Not really sure how to answer this....

I totally agree with you. That was actually one of my points. But my rumbling was so long that one can easily get lost in the middle of it. What I said, or tried to say, was that Britney probably was born with more natural dance skills. I never said she was a better dancer than Madonna. Like you said Madonna is a trained dancer , modern and classical dancer. That is the thing. Madonna is the most persevering pop artist out there whatever it takes to give the best show she will learn it and do it. And I honestly think she is incredibly smart and creative. ABout Britney...well truth is Britney's brain doesn't work like ours does it? She is probably (almost certainly) bipolar. And I think her case is one of those extreme cases. I see Britney like a fighter and honestly I think is remarkable that she can be functional. I don't think Britney will ever be like old times Britney but not because she is lazy, or stupided or dumb but because she is not stable and today she is more like a kid that needs to have someone to take care of some basic stuff for her. That must be really hard because I think britney is aware of that which is probably worse that not haven a clue and being an absolute cuckoos nest. I love Britney but you are absolutely right when you say she is not even close to where Madonna is.

I don't know why I didn't write about my Madonna appreciation yet. I love Madonna. Not only love her but I respect her a lot. Madonna is extremely successful in Brazil still and from my knowledge around the globe too. Is just easy to talk about where you live since you can see, in this case hear, the material flying around. Is fair to say that even her old songs get some relevant radio time here. Even night clubs play her quite a lot (mostly remixes of course). Madonna herself fascinates me more than her music tbh. I like to understand mechanisms since I am very young. I was the type of kid who would open up remote controls, watches, toys...not to break them but to see how they work, how all those pieces come together. I am still like that and in all sort of areas. And looking at Madonnas career and life I found her quite fascinating. My fascination is concentrated on how creative and smart she is. Most artists settle after a while. From rock bands to pop artists after a while they relay their tours in old success sets. Madonna doesn't settle. She makes new albuns and different tours. Madonna still does the soundcheck of every single performance. You don't even notice the fact that she isn't the best dancer she gives you the ilusion she is the best because she rehearses her routine to perfection. Is another quality I admire on her. Madonna is not afraid of hard work and that is very rare in artists. By hard work I mean going to the stage and knowing every single element that makes all that mechanism work. From lightining to sound. Is learning about music and everything that involves it. She study and learned how the industry worked inside out. She understood the mechanism, the game and took advantege of it. She also understands people and is very aware of the world. Combined with her huge creative capacity that lead her to be relevant until today. I think Madonna is a great student. A student of her own time, the time she is living in. Her causes changes, her speech changes, her clothes, her songs, her beats, everything really. And she manages to change and still be the same which is remarkable to me. Songs like Express Yourself, Vogue, Like a Prayer,La Isla Bonita, Like a Virgin, American Pie and so many more are timeless. When the industry started to go a little against the techno wave Madonna release Ray of Light. Once again she didn't go against the changes around her she did her version of it, she became a part of it. This was before super DJ's like Guetta. If you like her songs or not is another deal but you can't deny that Madonna is pure Pop. What is popular in the moment she finds a way to get to it and be ahead of it. She is almost 55 years old. I got to her concert of the MDNA tour in Rio late 2012 and her energy is amazing. A packed arena with 45.000 people singing from the beggining to the end of the show. When some musics of the MDNA tour didn't light up the crowd Madonna's doesn't wine she just sings Like a Prayer and the crowd goes crazy and she gets back in control. Is fair to say also that her concert attracts 3 different generations. Was not a festival so those 3 generations were there to see her and only her. During the 80' and 90' she really pushed the envelope. With her videos, her lyrics and sharp speech. Some will say she is arrogant which she might be from time to time but she is creative in her arrogance. She is not even arrogante for the same things even that changes just like the world that surrounds her. I doubt that any pop artist today will have Madonna's career. I am not talking about money, Grammy's and records. I am talking about the end deal which to me is being able to pack Arenas of 60.000 around the globe with people atending from 3 different generations. It takes a lot of work, brains, smart and sometimes tuff choices to get where Madonna got. She can be a Diva in a hotel room, in a press conference, in awards ceremony, interviews and restaurants. But when it comes to the thing that she actually is which is being an entertainner for some and and artist for others Madonna is a working ethical bee in her prime. Does her own soundcheck, produces her music, learned how to play instruments, hired the best vocal and dance trainers and rehearses tirelessly so everything is perfect for those who pay to watch her. Madonna works hard and is insaly creative, reinvents herself all the time. Is admirable her energy and also business skills. She was probably not born with all the skills of a great baillarina or singer but she learned them all. Learned to the point that she is a master in all of them. That to me is respect for her public, for her profession and for herself. And I really respect that. Her movie career is not remarkable but she tries anyway in other directions. I like W.E and you have to have balls to invest a lot of your own money in such project when you have failed before in the movie business. And Madonna did it and was quite a good movie. I like people like her who are not afraid of trying different things, who knows about the subject they are doing and talking about. That are not just puppets dancing and singing on the stage. I love that she never refers to herself as an artist and puts herself in a pedestal of art like she is Michelangelo or something. I love that she is 55 and releasing a new album.

Lana Bitch we are still waiting for a visit

I was talking generally about her lyrics. I really didnt understand the answer LOL. What song is about being suicidal and performed to a class of 8 years old?

Marina needs some great songs to take her away from this lost in the middle she is in. Her voice is outstanding but her song writtin, in my opinion, is weak at least compared to her singing skills. The highs and lows she reachs are amazing but unfortunatelly the majority of her lyrics are not remarkable.

I think I've gotten used to the trilogy: sonically, thematically and visually. My brain has created defenses against them. Apparently I want to make my life a work of art is here to stay playing like a broken record in all interviews. Just hope my brain creates defenses against that pretencious sentence as well.

The sentence "I want to make my life a work of art" makes me roll my eyes in several directions like a loose cannon exorcist

Monaco?? Sarcastic right?? Just imagining Lana hanging around Monaco with Barrie by her side. Its a funny picture.

Isn't Lana living in London? Doesn''t she have a house there or something?

I am pretty sure Lana wrote her first songs organically. But the minute she signed a contract she and her label were aiming an audience. Like most pop artists she was aiming teens and if those teens were gay even better.

That would be hilarious

Lana is so cute. If I was in London I would totally stalk Lana at her hotel. But with style like drinking cappuccinos until she pass by the hotel lounge.

What that means?

humm...what you did with those pictures ? What happened to Lana ?

you really like that race jacket there is a lot of Lanas around which probably means you like all her angles. You don't like to be treated rug (does anyone?) you like to be treated really niceys.

I liked the video a lot but I can totally see your points . Let's say I loved besides several things you pointed out that are probably true.

Yeah baby! But Lana thinks she "looked beautiful and sang really well" . She said she thought was a good presentation. I can't see someone looking at that mess and finding it good but anyway she liked. Maybe that's why she uploaded? I think inside she did that so people could also go to her chanel and check the other videos too.

Those moves can't be her trying 2 hard. Can they? I mean...when she gets down and the hip moves I just crack and giggle inside.

Bitch! I spit my coffee!! Misty is perfect!! I can't just can't. The corset would make even more difficult for her to move hahahaha...I can't even picture her with those moves working a pole...In the video when she goes down a little I try hard not to laugh. Is so weird that is good. Only Lana can do that.

OMFG I love this song so much. Quite good video love it!! PS: I try hard to not make fun of Lanas moves but I can't They are so weird that I don't really know how to describe them or even put them in a category of good, terrible or sexy. Thank god she has a great voice because if her career was based on a dance routine...

hOw differently @AB?? Better or worse? Just different? Less famous? Would she get even half the success?? More success? Not just the SNL presentation but all that came afterwards got her a lot of midia time.

trying to make a clone of K?? That would be very innovative. For real speaking in code doesn't really fit projects since people have to clearly understand the purpose of the project. Must be related with that charity project that I started to think was something close to a imaginary friend since she always talk about but we never see or know what it is.

I always wonder if Lana didn't tanked her SNL performance and got all that backlash she would become as famous as fast as she got. If her album would be that successful. The fact that the critics, specially in US, smashed her and her music made her really famous. Everyone that had internet at least heard about her. How many fans of today got to youtube to see the trainwreck factor and after hearing her music got out as fans? So many critics towards her authenticity, her lips, plastic surgery, her fathers money and so little actual critics about her music made her internationally famous. Since in most countries those things are quite irrelevant compared to US she got a international exposure that SNL would never give her since is basically a US show that not many people outside US care about. But the backlash in the other hand and all those twitts poking her, the critics about her lips, the mistery about the AKA album that really got lots of attention outside US. So do you think that the backlash was actually one of the things that made possible for her to be this successful? Do you think she would be were she is now career wise whithout it?