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And we gotta give her credit. The sheer audacity of having filmed a music video for it by a well known producer, then rejecting it for LFL and THEN putting it on your new record JUST LIKE THAT. She bold!!!

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I've always thought that that was some sort of reference to that Florida guy who wanted to harm her at one of her shows, as it was around that time that she shared that snippet I think. So in that sense, it may be an odd choice of words, but interesting nonetheless.

What about her singing style, though? Am I the only one who notices these differences? The demo version was recorded in 2016 when her singing style was different

Like, I don't want to come across as bitter, because usually I like everything that she puts out, but everything about this "era" has seemed so lazy in every department: her way of singing has become "lazy", the selfies as cover pictures, and the way she did BAR wrong like that. I bet TNBAR (and DT) was one of the last additions to NFR, as she stated that the album was done and had 11 tracks initially. So idk. I'll just force myself to appreciate it I guess

And not just the old instrumental, but also the old vocals. They sound exactly the same!

If you listen to it with a good set of speakers (or earphones), you can tell that the new bits just don't flow well with the existing verses in terms of sound quality. I'm all for the new TNBAR if it had been re-recorded properly (by Jack). I just think it's a missed opportunity. But maybe Lanz wanted grandpa rick to have some income from her new album too, who knows

I've listened to the entire thing and I must say that I'm quite disappointed tbh. I hope this album will grow on me, the same way that Honeymoon grew on me eventually. Oh well Don't kill me lol

I need a sidekick for this. I'd be too nervous, and besides, you have the knowledge. Let's go

No! I'm going to obnoxiously brag about it on all social media platforms, and live my best homophobic life by keeping it all to myself for the next couple of days

Yeah, I guess so! In terms of her songwriting it seems like she's literally describing her experiences (day-in-a-life way of storytelling) as herself: "You took my sadness out of context at the Mariners Apartment complex", like, that's oddly specific! lol "So I moved to California", it's literally her who has moved there, no fictional story-telling here. "Hawaii just missed a fireball / L.A.'s in flames, it's getting hot", again she's describing real events. So there certainly seems to be a shift from fiction to non-fiction, I'd say. Additionally, it seems (at least to me) that incorporating such real and literal events adds to the honesty and authenticity of her music.

Ok, I'm going on a trip today to see if they have NFR at some record stores near me. Wish me luck

We could all chip in, you know, for the common good! Edit: and by 'we', I mean all these 200+ users lurking the thread, hi guys

Ah, we do love an open-minded Daddy of the year 2k19!

Some people just want their first time to be special I'm with Terrence on this one

Seems like Chuck's the one who's got an album out apparently

Calm down love. Don't come for the good sis @@GeminiLanaFan . We stan ha!

I'm going!

It took 3 days... To get through too many pages But finally I'm up to date You guys have me in tears sometimes, thank you

I like the nods to Video Games and Ride Hopefully the videos will complement the lyrical content of the songs; I'm sure they will! So excited

Maybe she'll surprise us at some point

You mean this? Ugh yes!

This is incredible

I've been extremely obsessed with this song lately. It's so exceptionally well written if you think about it; it's full of verbs of motion (pushing, pulling, swinging, swaying) and sensory words which makes the song very vivid: you can easily picture what's going on. To me, this song seems to be about the struggle of alcohol abuse and abandoning the alcohol for something else. She doesn't have to drink, because she's got the music. She's leaving the alcohol for the music. Vivid storytelling with the verbs of motion and description of her senses. There's a struggle going on. I think this is where she is literally pushing away the urge to drink and she's having withdrawal symptoms ("feeling hot to the touch"). Personifying the alcohol: "You say you'll miss me and I wanna say I miss you so much". (personification of alcohol is also present in Ultraviolence (song) --> "Jim (Beam) brought me back"). Again, verbs of motion (pull, push) which indicate some sort of struggle and a description of how she's feeling "hot to the touch". These lyrics "Pull me close and you say 'hush, baby, hush'" give me goosebumps, honestly. I'm picturing someone who is trying to get her to do something (drink alcohol) and wants her to be surreptitious about it. As if that person is holding his index finger on his lips, saying "shh". I don't know how else to describe it, lol.

Happy birthday Honeymoon! I've been wanting to make a great analysis post on the album, but haven't had enough time to do so. So I'll just post my initial notes that I wrote down track-by-track: Keep in mind the following things that's she's said about Honeymoon in NME (2015), because it gives it a different perspective: In other words, the album is supposed to be very descriptive, she's not trying to 'work through stuff'; just telling how it is. Honeymoon "where the record begins and ends" Music To Watch Boys To "putting on my music while I'm watching the boys" --> the paparazzi / lies can buy eternity (the deceptions of fame --> once famous, there's no way of becoming 'unfamous') Terrence Loves You (haven't gotten to this one yet, lol) God Knows I Tried "sometimes I wake up in the morning..." / I feel free when I see no one and nobody knows my name (her real name --> foreshadowing retirement) High By The Beach "boy look at you" using 'boy' to refer to paparazzi / burden of fame / she doesn't feel free Freak becoming famous (aka a 'freak') / leaving new york / come to la Art Deco in new york / "a little party never hurt no one, that's why it's alright" / “born to be free” —> not born to be famous Burnt Norton (Interlude) "time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future" Religion "it never was about the party or the clubs" / 'fame is my religion' / even when the storms come, in the eye we'll stay (in the public eye) --> Cherry "and you just stay lined up" Salvatore she doesn't need to be saved / her saviour can wait / she is enjoying all things temporary (ice cream, her tan) / “catch me if you can working on my tan” she is on the beach The Blackest Day "don't wanna talk about the things to come" there is no future / loss of a loved one / looking for love in all the wrong places (alcohol, fame) --> the day she realised this aint it 24 "there's only 24 hours in a day and half as many ways (12) for you to lie to me" the 12th track on the album / the blackest day also has 24 hours / it's not enough to "lie like you lie or love like you love" --> fame can be a blessing and a curse, it can deceive but also be amazing Swan Song "say goodnight to the life and the world you knew" --> the day has ended / just be free (reference to GKIT) —> “I feel free when I see no one and nobody knows my name” Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood / Overall the analysis is incomplete, but I thought I'd share some of the notes I had made a while ago. I'll come back to it later

No tea, no shade, but... 102 unread posts in this thread... Plenty of them literally off-topic, yet no warning points given. Zero news... Members who have stated how they will "unstan" for the 7th time, yet they're still here... It baffles me how you can talk so much and yet say nothing? OT: I don't think the album's scrapped like some of you implied; there are no clues that indicate that. I think she meant it when she said that there is no plan, and that that's all there is to say for now.