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I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I just wanted to add that even IF she was "manufactured" or even if her dad "bought her a career", a successful career in the music industry isn't guaranteed. How many people out there are actually trying to rise to fame? I think that some people assume too easily that pouring money into someone will always have a successful effect/outcome. What I'm trying to say is: there is no scientific formula (as in: if X then always Y) for 'how to become famous'.

This. Absolutely agreed. I feel like this song is more LDR than her Nina Simone covers, for instance (though I think they fit the themes well, too). And maybe she relates to DT on some other levels too: the fact that David Kahne produced the original song, and the death of the lead singer who died of a heroin overdose.

I mean, it's cringy, but clever lol

"Morally superior" just because it's safer to drive without using your phone? I don't think it has anything to do with how cool or uncool that is, tbh. It's nice to see her enjoy the song though, but I cringe every time she's on her phone while driving. Not because I feel morally superior, but simply because it can be dangerous for her and/or others and I don't like seeing that.

Isn't that an amazing accomplishment for her, though? Minimal effort, maximum success? Some artists who actually do promo WISH they were that successful

IF (big IF) Interscope really has been pushing her to release hit song material, then she may have been experiencing label issues again. Think about it (the darkness, the deepness). Interscope has been lenient with her last couple of releases, but maybe those dynamics have changed for some reason? Remember how she said that “You don’t negotiate when it comes to your work or your art. You stand totally firm and take the consequences"? What if this is exactly what's been going on behind the scenes for the past couple of months? I mean, why would she announce the release of NFR to be at "the top of the year", then claim that "there is no plan" and passive-aggressively tweet "who knows when it'll be out". Besides, the album is done. My theory is that she did have a plan initially, but something must've happened and she is withholding NFR. However, this is all speculation, it's all based on what @@lustforlife said.

Ugh you’re right. It’s not up to me to tell others where to post Sorry

Can you take this to the random conversation thread? Thanks

Is the person in that gif pulling a sylvia plath on her son? I guess I'm warned

"With the daisies, feeling hazy" oh I see what was going on alright

The baby/lizzy/btd-esque vocals during the bridge are everything. I thought she grew out of that style or something, but I guess not

The stupidity of 1. not being able to do a quick google search themselves AND 2. asking for links here knowing that it's not permitted to do so . Ban-worthy for the stupidity alone

Y'all keep asking for download links, I-..... Get those warning points!

I feel like she could've written this. It's THAT good omg (already on my 5th listen, I-)

It's so good!!! The vocals, the production. A very updated 90s sound. She did that!!

OK, she said that she didn't "have a plan" for NFR, but reusing old pictures for a project that IS planned by/for someone else makes me do think something's up. Where is the effort?

"This is how... to... disappoint"

lmao your senses!

It's nothing, guys. I found him. This is Big Dreams; it samples Blue Jeans: His channel has all the other titles I found on there too.

I have no idea who he is, but he has other registrations on his name:

Do we know who the other person is? This Julian Janzen person?

Isn't this exactly what she's doing right now? Separating the self-image and her art, I mean. She's about to release an album with emotionally heavy songs and yet she seems to be enjoying life to the fullest with her friends and doing the whole "instagram baddie" thing.

"In California and London I’m getting recognised more and more. It’s usually really friendly exchanges – someone will just say, ‘Is it you?’ And I usually just say, ‘Yes’." This sent me "It's me ur lil venice bitch"

If you put it that way, yes, I can see why that's funny lol. But those two songs are completely different thematically. She's singing about the concept of change; not so much about how she relates to it on a personal level. For my thesis I've been reading about a gruesome topic, and one of the papers I had to read for it was about research on actual and simulated suicide notes. The expert in that particular paper said: “f you asked a person to write a suicide note, you put him in a suicidal context and he has to say, ‘I wonder what suicide is like?’ and he puts his mind around the concept of suicide. Then there is another person who is sitting there with a revolver about to shoot himself to death. He is not thinking about suicide; he is thinking about killing himself” Granted, the comparison is a bit extreme, but the same can be said about "Change vs. Hope": in Change she is talking about the concept of change, and in Hope she is relating a certain concept to herself. If it makes any sense.