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Um, it'd be one thing if she said something like, "Feminism or lack thereof does not enter my consciousness when writing songs, nor should it have to. To be frank, I just don't have an interest in feminism. I also don't believe that art should have to adhere to ~socially correct~ conventions nor should it have to be ~progressive~. I write about my fucking personal experiences, and I'm not about to comprise my art to pacify those that don't respect how I chose to live my life with the person I loved during a time I felt happy and fulfilled." But no, she didn't. It's one thing to state a lack of engaged/active interest, it's another to DISMISS a social and political movement that has undoubtedly bettered the lives of countless women around the world, including HER. Christ. Cringing hardcore at the "LOLOL FEMINISM IS SILLY AND TRIVIAL IN COMPARISON TO SPACE AND SCIENCE I AM SMART". It just kills me when Lana does her faux-intellectual schtick (politics, metaphysics, etc), because she always comes out looking like a complete idiot.

Not going to argue semantics with you, but okay. You definitely implied she was formerly a social worker.

I'm sorry, but we have to stop with this "social worker" thing. It's a profession which requires years and years of schooling, in Canada, a 4-year degree. Point is, you have to reach certain qualifications and have certain certificates, and you undergo intense practicums and counsellor training. Lana is NOT a social worker. She did volunteer work, but is in no way a social worker. If you trip and fall and have a gash on your knee and your mom puts on a bandaid on, does that make her a doctor? NO. Your friend comes to you to confide and work out their problems. Does that make you a psychologist? NO. It's really not any different. Doctors work incredibly hard to meet their qualifications, as do social workers. It's disrespectful to their achievements and work when you undermine their profession by slapping a label onto anyone that does anything that vaguely resembles their career. Christ.

what fun party conversation!

let's hope this sentiment changes with a better translation....

List updated!

There's no 7th Gramma video! The original folder containing the AKA videos contained a duplicate, and the person that claimed there was 7 didn't account for the duplicate Source: Me, although I didn't make that original claim

I wish artists still put out singles with B-sides that aren't songs already on the album.... *sadly flops*

Yes! :3

I'm REALLY happy that Lana worked with Dan for this record and chose a different director (can't recall his name, too lazy to look it up ). From the little we've seen, I'm positive that this will be a very successful era, with Lana winning the critics over and in turn, encouraging her NOT TO WORK WITH THE SAME PEOPLE ALL THE DAMN TIME because this floppy seal pup hates it. I understand that artists often have consistent / life-long collaborators but I couldn't handle any more of the same sounds. It'd be especially a pity if she stuck with "the same three guys" after being exposed to all the damn genres she can so effortlessly do YES I'M STILL HOPING FOR A COUNTRY ALBUM A STAN CAN DREAM OK

TBH, I like all the tracks we've heard so far. I love the production and tempo changes of West Coast and Shades of Cool, and the psychedelic guitar accompanied by her ad-libbing/wailing on the latter is one of my favourite parts of any Lana song, ever. Ultraviolence (the title track, I mean) strikes me as one of those hypnotic songs and the spoken bridge is sexy, sexy, sexy. And finally, I don't hate Brooklyn Baby... to me, its just unremarkable, but I mean, we've heard like a teeny tiny bit of it so the capacity for it to grow on me is still there. It does have a good vibe/mood to it, I have to say, so I do kinda like it. I'm very happy with Dan as a producer and I feel like Lana is finally making the music I wanted her to make, that I didn't know I wanted, if that makes any sense? haha :3 I like the aesthetic this era, from the grunge-inspired look to the black and white of promo videos and artwork. I'm hopeful that Lana can get the critics in her favour, because I think it would really increase her confidence and it would mean a lot to her. I'm excited for her and I'm excited for us, as a fanbase! *flops*

A) I haven't seen anyone in this thread saying that someone's opinion is WRONG. B) I don't know, it strikes me as kind of selfish when you try to dictate an already on-topic conversation on a forum because you don't like what's being said.

I don't equate "liking pretty things and being subversive" to "lacking any real artistry" and "her work [being] shit", but apparently you do. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth. The aforementioned characteristics of her work are why I like her. You don't actually think I choose to moderate a forum for an artist whose work I have little respect for? Christ.

Honestly... I think you've put WAY more thought into this than Lana ever did. I think there are a lot of intelligent people on the forum that assign too much meaning to Lana's work and give her too much credit. Liking pretty things and being subversive is basically the whole of her artistry.

Being nostalgic for a time you never lived in is such a white person thing Like no POC is ever gonna be like "i miss the culture and politics of the 60s"

Um... I wrote "The admittedly little we've heard has, in my opinion, horrible lyrics. " Also, harking back to my original post: Video Games is a prime example of, in my opinion, not so great lyrics elevated by production, mood, and delivery. I think the song is stunningly beautiful, but reading the lyrics does nothing for me. When i listen to it, however, I get a sense of sincerity that isn't readily apparent just by reading words on a page/screen.

You gotta give more thorough examples. You always talk about National Anthem as a "social critique" but you never actually explain how it is...

It's more than that, at least to me. Good lyrics are good lyrics, but bad/mediocre lyrics can be elevated by production / mood / delivery. I don't think lyrics are the be-all, end-all of a song, and I don't think anyone else here that has a bone to pick with them thinks that either. In Trash Magic, there's this sort of whimsical, idiosyncratic production, and coupled with the nostalgic mood of the song and seductive, whisper way it is sung, the lyrics take a back seat. She could be singing about fucking donkeys for all I care and I would still fall under the song's spell... Okay, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but you get my point. In Brooklyn Baby... it's just bizarre. The admittedly little we've heard has, in my opinion, horrible lyrics. The production/delivery fails to elevate the lyrics, and if anything, highlights how fucking blasé they are. "My boyfriend's in a band / He plays guitar while I sing Lou Reed" Like... what? Honestly, I think she is more than deserving of criticism considering that she considers herself a writer first and foremost ("~wanted to be a beautiful poet~") and her crappy "I KNOW RILL ART N NO 1 ELS DOES" attitude...

"I get down to Beat poetry"

WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS BRILLIANT

What are you referring to??

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes."