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I don't care that you don't like Adam Lambert. I just don't agree with all of you calling him untalented just because he covered Lana Del Rey's West Coast.

You're not going to engage any further because you know I'm right. I'm a huge fan of Lana Del Rey and listen to her music on the daily. She is my most listened to artist on Spotify and has been on my wrapped playlist for years alongside Queen and Adam Lambert. I'm just not going to biasedly drag an artist and agree with you or others because this is a Lana Board. It's just not going to happen. Have a great Saturday!

Lana Del Rey's West Coast doesn't hold a candle to Queen's music. Freddie Mercury's rendition of Opera

You're calling me a troll because I said in comparison to Adam Lambert, Lana Del Rey lacks vocal agility and range. Sure, Jan. Let's see Lana Del Rey perform an aria and a Broadway number. It won't happen because VOCALLY she lacks the ability to do so. Lana Del Rey is still a great artist but she isn't cut out for something like that and that's okay.

You can prefer her music which is great but I will not agree with him being untalented just because he covered Lana Del Rey's West Coast. We can like both artist.

I have proven multiple times that Adam Lambert is vocally stronger than Lana Del Rey. I don't care how many messages I'm sent from any of you, I will continue to state the obvious.

I'm sorry but I don't believe in blindly idolizing people. There are better artist than Lana Del Rey when it comes to vocal ability. Mariah Carey is a better vocalist than Lana Del Rey. I prefer Lana Del Rey's music to listen to on the daily bases but I won't delude myself into thinking Mariah isn't better than her, vocally.

I don't think Lana Del Rey is boring, I am a fan of her work and I have been so for eleven years now. Yes, I even attended some of her concerts in the past when she has visited my hometown. Lana Del Rey in comparison didn't work as hard as Adam Lambert did in the industry. Lana Del Rey's father helped her as well as the men she dated who happened to be producers in Hollywood. Adam Lambert didn't have that luxury. He was selected due by American Idol due to his vocal ability. Lana Del Rey has a beautiful voice and I listen to her music on the daily bases. I agree with Lana Del Rey in her post entitled Question For the Culture. I don't think she's racist and I don't think the message was difficult to understand. Lana Del Rey is wrongfully misconstrued and criticized due to that post in which I think is unfair. I am not talking from my personal opinion. I am linking articles from the public to prove that socially Lana Del Rey is deemed boring just as Adam Lambert is. You're all desiring me to hate Adam Lambert's cover and I don't. It's not my favorite cover but I will not drag him and call him talentless when he is opening doors that Lana is still knocking at.

I wish we can discuss things without defaming one another but I suppose I'm arguing with children who were hardly alive when Adam Lambert debuted. I'm sure some of you will delude yourselves into believing Lana Del Rey is also better than Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury is also a professional vocalist. There is better than her and I'm able to admit that as a fan.

You're proving my point. You're only think Lana Del Rey is better because of aesthetic, popularity and views. You're not open to debating the vocal agility of Lana Del Rey in comparison to Adam Lambert.

Thank you! I will honor respectful debates regarding the vocal comparison of Adam Lambert and Lana Del Rey here.

Lana Del Rey isn't a better vocalist than Adam Lambert. Adam Lambert: three-octave Adam Lambert is known for his full-control three-octave (B2-B5) vocal range, expert vibrato and dynamic, piercing and robust belting and falsetto which allows him to stretch up to the fifth octave. Lana Del Rey: Lana Del Rey's vocal range is approximately 3 octaves and minor third, spanning Bb2 – F#5 – C#6. Lana Del Rey is considered to be a dugazon mezzo-soprano, an intermediate voice type between a mezzo-soprano and a soprano.

Lana Del Rey didn't have to work hard in the industry in the same fashion Adam Lambert did. Adam Lambert was ridiculed for his sexuality, style and mindset which caused doors to close for him. He had to PROVE to society and the industry that he had a seat at the table. Lana Del Rey had help from her father to achieve her goals. She also dated a few producers and happen to be born into a family that had connections. Lana Del Rey is also a gorgeous woman. Beauty does play a factor in gaining popularity. Adam didn't have connections growing up. He applied for American Idol competition and sang well enough to be offered a golden ticket. The judges could have easily declined his advances. If the judges declined his chances, he'd never be famous. Adam Lambert has admitted to this himself.

People are comparing Adam to Lana because he covered West Coast. I agree with you wholeheartedly, which is why I also mentioned that Lana Del Rey wouldn't be famous if she didn't have the life she had. I also agree that Adam Lambert is undervalued, not seen as appealing. Although, he is more exciting than Lana Del Rey; He's not deemed interesting or trendy to our society as a whole. Thank you for reiterating that he is a VOCALIST as others seem to not comprehend that Adam Lambert is actually a professional vocalist. Adam Lambert sings with technique, strategy and precision. Lana doesn't sing like that. She sings from the heart.

I would have love to honor a level-headed debate with others here, but unfortunately there are children who would rather gaslight than face the facts. Adam Lambert is one of the last of the last groundbreaking artist. There's a reason why Queen elected Adam Lambert to replace Freddie Mercury after his untimely death. Lana hasn't been invited to Kennedy Honors, she isn't sitting with the greats although she has been recognized by the greats. I believe that in TIME Lana will reach those heights but she must refine her voice and focus. It doesn't matter what their opinion is of West Coast. Adam Lambert is an underrated living legend, period. He's sitting at tables that Lana isn't welcomed to. The only reason Adam Lambert isn't as famous as Beyoncé is because of his outspoken personality and his sexuality. If Adam Lambert was straight, he'd be further in life. Adam Lambert is THE Freddie Mercury, Boy George and Elvis of our generation. There isn't a soul you can name from THIS GENERATION that has his talent and technique. I don't care to discuss aesthetic, popularity and views. There are many artist who accompany aesthetic, popularity and views that are talentless and lack technique. Lana Del Rey isn't of those artist, but she can't be compared to Freddie Mercury. She isn't as great of an artist as Freddie Mercury and she never will be. If Lana Del Rey was reading this I believe she would agree too. Lana Del Rey, Adam Lambert and Freddie Mercury cannot be compared.

Question For the Culture was a cultural reset and I agreed wholeheartedly with the message. As an apolitical, uncompartmentalized person I stand with Lana Del Rey.

I don't hate Lana Del Rey. You're definitely reaching. I've been a fan since Video Games era and I attended the Endless Summer Tour. You're scheming through what I've said just to reply sassily when I didn't even say what you think I said. I'm quoting an article from MTV.

I don't find Lana Del Rey problematic or boring but I'm not a stranger to the public opinion of Lana Del Rey. https://www.mtv.com/news/t0eihx/lana-del-rey-queen-of-boredom Lana Del Rey, Queen Of Boredom Lana Del Rey has been a polarizing pop star from the start. Critics have said she's too obsessed with outdated notions of femininity, or cringed at interviews where she's quoted saying things like "I wish I was dead already." Her major-label debut, Born to Die, was memorably called the "album equivalent of a faked orgasm," simultaneously "dull, dreary, and pop-starved." Her debut SNL performance certainly didn't help. Amid EDM’s thudding Top 40 anthems, Lana's take on a 2012 summer hit was one about unbearable sadness; she was practically an alien. https://theconversation.com/she-says-stupid-things-about-feminism-sex-and-wanting-to-be-dead-lana-del-rey-is-so-boring-29508 Lana Del Rey is so boring Lana Del Rey is so boring. The most interesting thing about her is the gorgeous, Prell-girl hair that frames her expressionless face in videos and photographs. In interviews, she likes to complain about how the media misunderstands her. She smokes. She calls her music “Hollywood sadcore” and “narco swing”. She admits she’s slept around, a lot, sometimes with strangers. She’s made a lot of stupid statements about feminism, but at least has the tact (I’m looking at you, Miley) to acknowledge that she neither knows much about it nor cares to discuss it. And, most controversially (stifles yawn) — she likes to talk about how she wishes she were dead. https://www.theeagleonline.com/article/2017/06/unpopular-opinion-i-hate-lana-del-rey Unpopular Opinion: I Hate Lana Del Rey Her slow, sultry voice pulls people into her music and her apathetic tone makes people forget about their problems. Del Rey’s style mimics that of a 70’s hipster flower child with her breathy and raspy low notes combined with her angstful, melodramatic lyrics. Her music seems perfect for any teenage dirtbag or college student seeking some rebellious and calming tunes after arguing with their parents about money. However, her music is also trash.

In comparison to Adam Lambert, Lana Del Rey is not vocally skilled and she doesn't exude much vocal range. There are women in the music industry who have a wider vocal range than Lana Del Rey. Adam Lambert covered West Coast which is why we're discussing him in the first place. The website is accurate and matches the information in multiple vocal analyzation videos created by professional vocal coaches on YouTube. I love Lana Del Rey and I think she has a beautiful voice but she can't be compared to Adam Lambert nor his spiritual mentor, Freddie Mercury. I agree that women shouldn't be compared to men. Men are different and operate differently from a woman but that's a different discussion. Let's talk about women in the music industry with a larger range than Lana Del Rey. 1. Mariah Carey With her 5-octave vocal range and her ability to reach notes in the 7th octave vocal range as well just go back, it should come as no surprise that Mariah is the top. She hits the highest, most ear-piercing note of all time, making anyone in the vicinity’s hair stand on end. This is known as whistle register. Do not try it at home. 2. Christina Aguilera Known for her powerful belting, Christina’s vocal range spans four octaves. Yet what is even more impressive is her voice dexterity, allowing her to jump between the different parts of her range with ease. Listening to her light, feminine speaking voice and breathy low register, one would not expect it to take on the thick and weighty tone with a nasal sound, that is so characteristic of the singer’s style. 3. Hayley Williams (Paramore) Both Hayley and her voice are known for their versatility. With her 4-octave range and a voice that possesses a beautiful mix of edginess and girly smoothness, it is hard not to love this singer. Her voice is well connected throughout all registers, with lower notes that are dark and well controlled, however, her strongest vocal asset can be heard as she ascends to her characteristic roaring, ear-splitting high notes. Hayley’s sharp tone as well as her excellent breath control - allowing her to head bang and both hold high notes for long - makes her one of today’s top live performers. 4. Celine Dion You are certainly no stranger to Celine Dion’s sharp voice with the nasally quality that is distinctly hers. Her 5-octave vocal range and ability to even reach an E6, paired with the skill of projecting her voice in all registers, thus allowing it to pierce through the heaviest of instrumentations, has earned her a multitude of awards and sold out shows worldwide. 5. Beyoncé The technical, trained singer has a 4-octave vocal range, which is one of the strongest in the music industry. Although unlike Mariah Carey, she doesn’t have the whistle register, her incredible vocal flexibility and dexterity more than make up for it. In addition, Beyoncé’s exceptional breath and core support means she can hold notes long and dance with little decline in vocal quality, which is a rare but great quality for live performances. https://sopm.gg/5-female-living-singers-largest-vocal-range/ I don't like the majority of these artist, excluding Hayley Williams and Mariah Carey, However, we're analyzing vocal agility and it's clear that these women acquire a larger vocal range. Vocal range of 2.5 to 3 octaves is common among professional singers. Lana Del Rey's voice is stereotypical and average which is okay.

In comparison to Adam Lambert, she’s not vocally skilled. According to Vogue, Adam Mitchel Lambert is an actor and singer-songwriter from San Diego, California, United States. He is known for his full-control three-octave (B2-B5) vocal range, expert vibrato and dynamic, piercing and robust belting and falsetto which allows him to stretch up to the fifth octave. - https://thevogue.com/artists/adam-lambert/ Lana Del Rey's vocal range is approximately 3 octaves and minor third, spanning Bb2 – F#5 – C#6. What is Lana Del Rey's vocal fach or voice type? We consider Lana Del Rey to be a dugazon mezzo-soprano, an intermediate voice type between a mezzo-soprano and a soprano. - https://thepopsmarts.com/vocal-range-and-profile-lana-del-rey/ In order for Lana’s voice to strengthen, she attended vocal lessons to expand her vocal range. According to Tina Shafer, who was her vocal coach in 2012, Del Rey has a beautiful, deep speaking voice, and the songs that suit her best are in this speaking range. Lana Del Rey is a dugazon mezzo-soprano, an intermediate voice type between a mezzo-soprano and a soprano. Her lower register is not as robust as one would expect from a mezzo, but her timbre is darker than a soubrette or soprano. - https://thepopsmarts.com/vocal-range-and-profile-lana-del-rey/ Cher Approved

You're confusing personal opinion with my stance regarding social opinion. Everything I'm talking about is what has been said about the artist separately. I am attempting to shed light on how SOCIETY views the two artist. SOCIETY labels Lana Del Rey as BORING, not myself. (Again, I reiterate that this is what SOCIETY thinks when discussing Lana as an artist.) If I wasn’t correct then she wouldn’t have felt the need to release a statement, defending her integrity and expressing her irritation with our over-sexualized society painting her as boring on her main Instagram page, @LanaDelRey Lana is literally questioning the culture of our society and why certain acts are allowed and applauded. Lana was called racist for speaking her mind regarding the unfairness of the industry as well as how she is overlooked due to her lack of excitement. Lana also mentioned that Doja Cat, Beyoncé, Cardi B and the rest of the artist listed are known to sing about repetitive topics regarding sex, drugs and sexual deviancy. Lana admitted to engaging in similar acts too. In MY opinion, I believe Lana is right! She deserves just as much recognition as these artist. However, the society we live in doesn't think Lana Del Rey is as talented or exciting as Beyoncé. Lana will never squander the attention of our fast-paced society with the sort of music she releases. Lana, in the eyes of society is thought of to be a one-trick pony, and because of this she will never be preferred over Beyonce, Cardi B and Doja Cat. This has been proven by our society on various occasions. Spotify, YouTube and Apple Music aren't hindering views in this instance. In comparison to skillset, Adam is more experienced, entertaining, performative, refined and talented regarding vocal agility. Adam Lambert is consistently compared to Freddie Mercury by society which is why Queen elected him to replace Freddie Mercury's leading role. Lana Del Rey doesn’t hold a candle to Freddie Mercury’s vocal abilities. You’re all comparing two powerhouses to a lighthouse. Lana Del Rey isn't the next Prince, Mariah Carey, Stevie Nicks or Freddie Mercury. She isn't a multi-dimensional at all and she's secure in that. Lana Del Rey doesn't create music for society to hear as she isn't interested in being compartmentalized. I feel bad for Lana because she's pressured to be sexy, to act suggestively, to pose naked and to show skin by the industry when she rather conduct herself in a conservative manner. I also don't like how she was dragged for speaking her truth. In conclusion, It’s not my opinion that Adam is more exciting. Society would view Adam Lambert as wild, free, weird and eclectic. Although, Adam is more exciting and arousing than Lana Del Rey, Lana is more popular. Lana's beauty, creativity and aesthetic are the brunt of her long-standing career.

Adam Lambert is certainly more experienced, exciting and forward than Lana Del Rey. That’s not even an opinion! If you’re debating about artist and their artistry than you must study that artist before making solidarity judgments. Yes, it’s a cop out because Lana is considered boring TO THE PUBLIC. You’re not going to hear her music playing in a club unless it’s remixed. I’ve heard Adam Lambert’s music in clubs before I’ve heard Lana Del Rey. Lana is completely in her own lane and has found her community who is invested in her material. I’m not speaking about Lana as a FAN, I’m speaking from an unbiased analytical standpoint. I criticized Lana just as much as I criticized Adam. I’m not picking sides, I’m just simply shedding light on how others feel about the two artist, socially.

No, I didn’t! I said others would view Lana and Adam as boring, socially. Lana fans calling Adam boring is like the pot calling the kettle black. Ironically, Lana fans are called boring due their support of Lana. Our society deems Lana to be less valuable in comparison to artist like Beyoncé because she isn't shaking her ass, showing her breast and body in sexually provocative clothing. Adam Lambert is also considered less valuable due to his sexuality, and his style which is considered to be old-fashioned. Adam Lambert isn't a trendy artist that teenagers with short-attention spans can enjoy. He's cultivated for those who find value in the past. This is where Lana Del Rey and Adam Lambert share subtle similarities. . At the end of the day, To call Adam boring is just a cop out. Adam is preferred when it comes to groundbreaking performances honoring groundbreaking artist. They’ll call Miley Cyrus before they’ll inquire Lana to honor the greats. That’s just the honest to god truth. She’s been complimented by the greats of our time which is amazing but Lana must develop more as an artist in order to reach those heights. As far as excitement is concerned, Adam Lambert is provocative in his approach. He's bold, fearless, confident, fierce, strong, independent and unwavering. Lana fans are upset because someone as experienced as Adam Lambert dared to interrupt the status quo of their community. Personally, I don't like that the tempo wasn’t respected. The overproduction and vocal layering resulted in an overpowering performance. I'd rather listen to Adam Lambert sing his own material.

I don’t find him boring and I don’t personally find Lana boring. In this instance, I’m just stating facts. Socially, they’re outcasted and undervalued.

I don’t understand why they’re blatantly lying for the sake of protecting Lana. There's nothing Lana will gain or lose from this discussion. If Lana wasn’t pretty and didn’t live the life she lived then she’d never be famous. She was surrounded by the right people to push her towards success. Adam had to work harder to gain leverage in the industry.