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Downhill Lullaby was a terrible choice for the first single. It's a great song, but it would serve better as a follow-up promo single. Or... it would have been a great strategy on a double single with a track like Guardian and/or had been released with a killer music video.

Yaeji on the remix album oh my god

Would be super sexy to hear Die Life.

The way that I Pray For Rain and Guardian both sound fresh even though they were recorded so long ago... I don't know why this girl is sitting on that kind of quality for so long

Guardian > IPFR > Downhill Lullaby Guardian is one of my favorite Sky songs, the chorus sticks in my head more than a lot on NTMT tbh.

Yes to Charli collabing with rappers, no to slapping semi-trendy rappers on tracks with hopes for a chart placement or a quick hit. Also, this makes me think of BIOYL with Lizzo... Imagine an actual Charli x Lizzo collab and how cute that would be.

Imagine Sky Ferreira releasing Masochism and getting a massively warm response, and she'd know she's loved... Being in the music industry since age 17, she's probably super self-critical and traumatized by the shady business that is a major record label, so I think whenever she releases an album it will hopefully spark some joy in her. I know we all would love it, die for it, etc.

never heard that it was intended for a movie, but it makes sense. Glad you see the outer space vibes too, it makes me feel like I'm in the cover after of Froot lol.

Is Swamp Girl confirmed different than Rancid Girl? I really want Not Alright

Something I would like to see happen is a Charli x Meghan Trainor collab. It would be very cool if on the HIFN deluxe SOPHIE remixed p4u and added a Meghan verse. Kidding but imagine how many people would be furious.

End of the Earth is one of Marina's discography highlights imo. Such a beautiful track and definitely the highlight of the record.

It's Charli we all know how fast she moves on from the music she makes...

I definitely agree that the "seriousness" or whatever we'll call it is a natural evolution. Tracks like Solitaire and Gold have definitely emphasized where Marina's mindset is coming out of the Electra Heart era. It all feels very natural and organic right now; it just feels like there are some growing pains in the unique qualities that we all adore, and maybe a delay for Marina getting into the right mindset to make music again. Plus, between Froot and L+F I'm sure Marina wasn't in the best mindset considering how everyone tried to meme her for being anti-technology, for being "broke", etc... So it makes sense that she was second guessing herself during the production. I think a strength of Marina's is that her psyche shows through in each of her releases, which felt very absent in L+F. Personally, I don't see Froot necessarily as conceptual as everyone else does, but I do enjoy how she put it all together as a personal album with a lovely aesthetic. Ultimately, though, I think that the Electra Heart era was a very "you-had-to-be-there" sort of era though...like yes, it is still enjoyable in hindsight, but I think the fanbase's hyper-critical view of Marina and her album concepts (namely, the L+F debate) is definitely a result of experiencing this rollout in real-time. I know personally at least I would not regard EH so highly if I hadn't seen the concept unfold in real-time. As I said in my response to Enchanted Mansion, I think Marina's psyche is very evident in her creative endeavors, and being a stan from the start-to-end of the era during EH allowed us to see a true psychological journey (that honestly many of us as teenagers were experiencing during our tumblr days) that feels unsurpassable. Without this bias, I would understand why L+F might not feel like such a drop in quality. --- I do think the release strategies of EH and Froot were definitely ahead of their times. The ♡PART 1: FEAR & LOATHING♡/Monthly Froot strategies are so unintentionally tailored for the 2020 style strategy of just dropping a bunch of singles to lead up to a drawn out album release.

Daily reminder that we're probably never getting Janet album

I totally get wanting to move away from the "Marina and the Diamonds" moniker considering it makes her sound like a band and definitely was something she thought up when she was really young and moody, but how do you have such an amazing last name like "Diamandis" and you go only by your first name?? Makes no sense to me aesthetically, but also from the record label's standpoint I don't know why they didn't urge her to go with that due to the other artists named "Marina". It would also give more recognition to people who don't follow enough to know that MATD is now Marina. And plus, she always seems so proud of her Greek culture, and using her surname of Diamonds in Greek would have been perfectly on brand for her.

!!! This is very well put. This really is the reason why I prefer the You demo to the album cut, as it shows her vocal quirk a bit better. Emotional Machine almost goes there too, but the vocals are just so smoothed over in a way that we loose that Marina-ism that you get in earlier tracks. What I really think separates Marina from any old pop girl is her singing style. The glossiness/smoothness of the vocals are what really turns me off on L+F. It adds so much personality to the music and I feel like I would have received L+F so much better with vocals like her earlier works. When you read the lyrics to Karma, you wouldn't expect it to sound the way it does... lol I wonder if those are the people who got into Marina with Froot...lol. Wasn't the Love vs Fear concept sort of last minute? If I recall correctly wasn't the album "Handmade Heaven" until not long before release...

Maybe she's felt the desire to build upon the concept after COVID-related isolation – leaving the isolation of staying home to escape in the Badlands for the duration of a creative project?

Why does this feel like the first time an artist has ever revisited a concept/era after moving on. Living. Manic was cute, HFK was pretty, and Badlands was GORGEOUS. Would love to see a Badlands part 2 for H4. The best parts of Manic were the sort of Badlands-esque feel of Ashley + Suga Interlude...

I wish M would work with a more left-field female producer, though. I know this is a very 2012 Tumblr-esque dream, but it would be great to see a Grimes production collab. She needs her Pynk moment.

I feel like if she doesn't release an album that is her magnum opus or whatever you'd call it, the debate will likely continue with the next album. Electra Heart being such a strong album in terms of sound (for the 2012 pop music climate), visuals, rollout, and concept (etc.) has definitely put the successive releases under a huge magnifying glass. If M had released TFJ -> Froot -> L+F, I doubt we'd be having this sort of debate, but EH has truly created a level of nostalgia and a level of quality that will always overshadow each successive release until she does it again. In my heart, I do feel like M5 would have been out by now if it hadn't been for COVID... It felt that she was very ready to move on from L+F. But then again we all know how Marina loves to draw out an album release, huh.

L+F could have done stupendously in her discography for me if it were an EP/mini-album. 1. Handmade Heaven 2. Superstar 3. Enjoy Your Life 4. To Be Human 5. You (demo version) 6. Emotional Machine 7. Too Afraid 8. End of the Earth 9. Baby (bonus track) I think the biggest issue with L+F is just how bland the production is. There's a reason why Baby didn't age like the rest of the tracks. Some of the tracks like Superstar and End of the Earth would have so much more replay-ability for me if their production was touched by an angel. We need to some decadent, fresh-sounding production, or we need simply just piano and nothing else, that's where Marina does best. AND ALSO! She needs to release under Marina Diamandis. Who though MARINA would be a good name change?

It would sound like SMS Bangerz but perfected

Only artist repping the DMV right now. Love her

AG's Official > Charli's Official Sorry bout it! Also I pray we're still getting HIFN deluxe... I will cry if we don't

I think that the socialism/communism discussion is definitely off topic, considering that the 2020 election does not involve socialism/communism. This is an election between a far-right party and a center-right party. I definitely would have said in 2016 that the Democrats were a centrist party, but unfortunately the nomination of Biden definitely speaks to how the Democrats are moving more and more right with respect to class solidarity as their base moves more and more left. The Democratic strategy of appealing to right-leaning centrists just really does not make any sense to me. A centrists that leans would likely vote with the extremist of the same leaning rather than a centrist of an opposite leaning. We saw this with Trump in 2016. The moderate Republicans rejected Trump and Trumpism, but they ultimately voted with their party. The DNC should simply let a primary play out organically without actively trying to curtail the left-leaning candidate, as I'm sure the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho Brigade will vote with a progressive, left-leaning candidate to a greater extent than an uninspired progressive who feels excommunicated from the Democratic Party would vote for a center-right candidate like Biden. The DNC running a centrist over and over again is gonna start giving me "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?" - the primary polls that look like Cuomo is going to be a rising star in 2024 do not sit right with my spirit. Also, though, progressives need to rally behind one candidate in 2024. I do think one of the greatest downfalls of the 2020 primary was simply the infighting between the Bernie/Warren supporters. Both of them were candidates with great policy stances and with personal flaws that were troubling, yet neither of which were as terrible as Biden...yet the infighting between these two progressive campaigns cost us a progressive nominee methinks. Meanwhile the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho crowd was very "bitches be like: I can't stand her fake ass... *candidate who they supported drops out* ...me & the bestie!!!" But anyways, I'd definitely support Nina Turner in a 2024 primary. I just hope that the DNC isn't opening space in the Democratic Party to realign the party to include anti-Trump centrist Republicans meanwhile excluding progressive/left-leaning (former-)Democrats. If this is the ultimate goal of this seemingly near-sighted strategy, it makes me really worried that they're simply aiding the US in going towards the right, and allowing the Republican Party to open itself up to more and more right-wing extremists. We need a left-leaning candidate on the national, presidential-scale in the Democratic Party, otherwise every election (until global warming causes this planet to expire within the next century) will be a corporate politician versus increasingly more blatant fascists. Lastly, I fear that Trump already has the 2020 election. Rather, I'm afraid that there is no election. The USPS is being torn apart. This election is illegitimate, and our best bet to saving democracy is electing a progressive Democrat in 2024 when the pandemic is hopefully gone and we can go out and vote in person.