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What? None of that is remotely relevant to the actual conversation we're having. We're only talking about the set lengths, and about how it's sad that someone with one album is performing longer sets than an established artist with four albums and 200 unreleased songs. (In fact, the more specific conversation was about sponsorship's relation to set length, and how someone much less popular than Lana is still managing to put on longer shows.) No one was defending or promoting Lorde as a general artist, or implying that she was special at all.

I think you're missing the point about sponsors: no one saying she should have giant sets or costume changes (the sorts of things sponsors help provide for). The only point of comparing her to Gaga/Katy/etc. was the show length, which has nothing to do with sponsorship. The lack of sponsorship is not what prevents Lana from doing an 18 or 20 song show -- that's why someone like Lorde, who isn't playing 20,000 seat venues, can do one just fine. And I disagree with what you say about casual concert-goers -- they usually don't care how long the show is, because they just want to hear Summertime Sadness and Video Games. But plenty of real Lana fans are very bummed about it, because they want to get a full performance out of their favorite artist.

The cost of the show/sponsorship is completely irrelevant to whether or not Lana puts on an adequate show. And this is a discussion board, where people, you know, discuss things, so "shut up and don't go if you don't like it" isn't a very constructive response. Or would you prefer people only talk about Lana when they're worshiping her?

With all due respect, 1) it's not the 1960s anymore. 2) you complain about artists who stop the show to change outfits, what about artists who stop the show for 15 mins to take selfies with the front row? Just as bad...

Is there a full live recording of Boarding School, or just the two-minute video that cuts out? Thanks!

I'm glad you had fun, but 13 songs is ridiculously short for a major headlining artist, and people have a right to complain -- it is in no way "a lot of songs." Gaga, Katy, Miley, etc. all perform 20-25 songs when they headline -- and whatever you think of them as artists, they give the fans their money's worth. I've never in my life seen another headliner only perform 13 songs. It's pretty sad that someone who's barely been around like Lorde performs longer concerts than Lana does...

according to setlist.fm she's cut Us Against The World from the last couple of shows, leaving just a 13 song set. Pretty pitiful for a headlining act playing 20,000 seat venues...

I'd rather have a reimagined (not watered down) BTD 2.0 than a jazz album

No, I want her to put on a performance that lasts more than 13 or 14 songs -- something those back-up dancer/costume change artists that you make fun of have managed to figure out. When you see Lana, you hardly get your money's worth, at least compared to every other major headlining artist in her genre. It's pretty sad that even fucking Lorde (who has one album and has been out like a year) plays longer shows than a multi-platinum, multi-album star like Lana. She's pretty lazy when it comes to her performances, and pointing that out is a perfectly legit "complaint."

I think it's hilarious that people are so concerned about her being lazy with album promotion, but barely ever complain about how lazy a live performer she is for 20,000 people paying to see her every night. I couldn't care less if she forgoes tv and radio promotion -- I just wish she put more effort into her shows that people are paying good money to see.

This x1000. Your view will inevitably be blocked by a hundred assholes holding up their phones for the entire show...

I doubt it was your specific show, I'm pretty sure she's skipped YCBTB at every show but the first, and she's skipped DR at several shows too.

I don't think she has yet -- it's just been listed on several setlists.

Did she really cut 3 songs again from the opening night setlist?

are you serious? That's ridiculous. Say what you want about "pop" stars like Katy, Gaga, Miley, etc., but when you see them they put on full performances.

It totally depends on the venue security, I think. I was in the front section of the bowl, and the security was there all night to check tickets going in/out. So it would have been pretty impossible to move up to our section without a ticket. (Unless you got physical snuck by them.) But things may be different at your show. Have a great time!

That's the thing, she doesn't *need* to move anything to make room for new songs -- she could just increase her setlists to a reasonable size for a proper headlining act. It's sort of ridiculous to only perform 14 or 15 songs when you're an established artist headlining ~20,000 seat venues. When her peers go on tour they perform ~25 songs at the same venues...

According to setlist.fm, she didn't do Do Right or YCBTB -- though the site isn't always accurate, of course

It is kind of a bummer -- I've never seen a headliner at a ~20,000 person venue only perform 14 songs before. But I guess that's just Lana...

Yes, unfortunately...

The show was amazing. Courtney rocked it, and had a really good sense of humor about everything. Lana sounded incredible -- I don't know if she's been taking vocal lessons or is just more comfortable, but she sounded 100 times better than when she was in Phoenix last year. The only disappointment was that she didn't do You Can Be the Boss. She also didn't do Why Don't You Do Right. But still, an amazing night.

Did she do full Cruel World, or just the snippet thing like last year?