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So they finally announced the times everyone is playing and it figures Lana is top billed on one of two main stages at around 915pm and at the exact same time on the other main stage (which aren't close to each other) are the Black Keys Somewhat might mean the crowd is split in two but that is to be expected in a festival. There is always Weird Al around 6pm

I would call it abuse if anyone trying to kiss her or anyone without permission. It is though very 1960s, very communal, very large family, very in her upbringing and lifestyle, that is not an act but is her. Everything is 1967 1968 1969 If one was around then, one knows what I mean. But it should originate from her, not the fan.

Lana gets a great review in the LA Times (for her show, her voice, her songs, her staging, her everything) YET if one casually reads the g-d-'d review one would think it is a negative review with the first and last line qualifiers Lana can't win for anything. Everything about the review suggests great show, great everything and acknowledges the sexism in music today and yesterday yet the thing is, Devon writes (and it's a she) still writes it instead making a female unequal to a male with that last line about Pearl Jam. Lana can't win. Again, for anyone else, that review would not have the qualifiers and would have been a great raving fantastic review. sometimes you just want to say f' them. if Lana and Courtney did what the reviewers always want, then Lana and Courtney would not be Lana and Courtney. They would be puppets of the reviewers. What makes them Lana and Courtney is, they are unique and don't do what everyone else does nor follows commands. Great artists don't bow to reporters. Without great artists, writers of music would have nothing to write about and would be out a job.

@@prettywhenicry Lana does 5 songs from Ultraviolence including what I think is her best vocal on record and live, "Shades of Cool". It is Roy Orbison operatic in my opinion as the song goes on. (oh if only we could have heard her and Roy have done something together)

Kate Bush in her comeback concerts in England told everyone NO cell phone photos. She wanted her fans to actually enjoy the show, get into the show, listen and hear it LIVE as they paid MONEY to see and hear it. I love watching youtube songs of each show, but I always wonder- why go to a show just to hold a cell phone or camera up and shoot the film? If one is lucky, they get a concert near their area or make a long drive to see it. I am seeing at least 3, but I know I am going to focus on watching the stage and hopefully at some point clips will come out, but I myself want to enjoy the show live. Just more excuses for negativity. I wonder- of the people who keep being negative, are you actually making the effort to see the shows (i.e.-lay out money and pay to see them? I know real fans go see someone each tour if they can afford it and are healthy. I have in the past seen some comments indicating otherwise. (and all the negative innuendo, how many tickets sold, do they hold back, blah blah blah Be happy there is a tour- Kate Bush hadn't performed for 20 years or more. And don't think she ever performed in the USA except on SNL (which I saw live). Would love to see official live releases (or even unofficial official releases like the Dead and Dylan and Springsteen have with almost every show professionally shot)

Be in the pit, though not going to fight my way to the center. left of center

The lyrics to Honeymoon suggest a foreboding Roy Orbison/David Lynch menace in the future. And totally in line with the lyrics/stories of the rest of her songs. Somewhat like a later Roy Orbison "Love so beautiful" Why would people think Honeymoon is suppose to mean happiness when she herself used the phrase film noir to represent what she was going for? There never was a happy ending in any film noir classic that I can think of, was there? (and her very stylized and I happen to like the artistry of the last video for Ultraviolence with the bride, is very telling too... it is a journey of life a road trip through life one where there may or may not be redemption (David Lynch always had redemption at the end of one of his films even if it was hard to see sometimes, but when one took the whole movie, there was always an OMG I get it moment, especially in Wild at heart and Mulholland Drive (One of the greatest films of all time, as is the classic Sunset Blvd, Mulholland was like the other side of Sunset)

When Lana said something about Lucy in the Sky, I do hope it would be the Elton John psychedelic version/vision of Lucy she was talking about, maybe mixed in with the Beatles All you need is love mixed in with Elton's Ego or Believe (speeded up just a little bit) mixed in with Shades of Cool and West Coast. What really was more psychedelic than West Coast anyhow? That is why her statement about that was confusing. (unless you put in more piano/organ/percussion and take out the Dan A. guitar parts? I always like piano/keyboards over guitars They should get Ray Cooper to augment the percussion. Nobody does it better than Ray.

Disappointing as it is, when there are tornadoes in the area, they have to have a 3 or 4 hour lead time to cancel an event, clear the people out of the open air place, get the cars out of the lot, and more important- have time for the people to get home and to safety. No one wants to be outside when a tornado hits. So even though there was no immediate danger, one doesn't know, and its the call listening to the experts. It's like swimming in the summer and there is thunder miles away, they kick you out of the water, even though no one is in immediate danger, nor does it mean that the storm will be right where the water is. Had there been a tornado and the show went on, I doubt anybody here would have wanted people killed.or hurt. The reason for a weather alert system is to get word out early to evacuate (even if 9 out of 10 times it might not directly go overhead).

Roy Orbison's "A love so beautiful" and to do an official Christmas release with Leonard Cohen (perhaps doing the bing/bowie song) Also Lana should do Bing Crosby's and Bruce Springsteen's Dancing in the Dark (note-they are two different songs, Bing's song was heard in the movie "The Shining" at the bar scene with Jack Nicholson, and somehow make it into a medley Also would love to hear Lana doing a Harry Chapin song and championing Harry into the Rock hall of fame. Two unique people. Perhaps twist Harry's "Mail order Annie" around, and be Annie, or perhaps, twist Harry's Corey's coming, and be Corey herself. (so perhaps splice a duet with Harry into it).

and the negativity contines One would think on a board proporting to be with Lana fans (maybe that is the biggest misconception I have here, we also never know if a newbee is not just another one of those who jump on any single mention and attempt to be the first with a negative remark One would think if one doesn't like an artist, they should go to somewhere where the is an artist they like. One day there will be boxed sets (hopefully as great as the Bear Family ones used to be) with every single song and every single variation of every single song (including every single live version there is) (would probably take 10 boxed sets, prefably vinyl btw as she sounds best on vinyl the ultra-best would be with 1960s era WABC type re-verb too. Encores are a waste of time by the way. They are always planned by artists and are mainly used so an artist can feed their ego hearing applause, or take a bathroom break, or a boring costume break (I pay to hear a singer sing, though Elton in the 1970s had some outrageous costumes that even he got bored of by the time he released "reg strikes back" and auctions offed most of his wardrobe. 1960s style concerts, with audience sing-a-long like Harry Chapin and Pete Seeger did, where an artists stands basically still (or sits) and sings to the fans from the heart. I can't imagine Pete Seeger making 20 costume changes. By the way, when an artist says they will be singing all night long, they are lying. They have a contractual time they are singing, with little variation in length, and union rules mean shut-down times so the big corporations that own the areans/theatres don't have to pay the arena/concert hall people one penny more Now to find more videos on youtube to enjoy and maybe write POSITIVE comments on all of them.

Great set list, great choice of songs, great set, great voice, greatness. Love Chelsea Hotel. Now if only there can be a duet with Leonard Cohen (maybe a Christmas Holiday song And Brooklyn Baby, West Coast, Shades of Cool, Serial Killer, all of them old and new Just wish she would one day due American (my favorite song of hers) here in America (that song reminds me of my President) About one month to go for the first of three shows I am seeing . And today is exactly one year since CT 5/8/2014, which IMHO was the best (and loudest fans in the place) concert I have seen since Elton at MSG in 1976 and Queen a couple of years later

Thank you so much! Chelsea (Leonard Cohen, yeah!!!!) God if they could do a duet together (perhaps a Christmas song)

eventually all the unreleased tracks will find a way onto a few huge box sets of rarities like Dylan, Springsteen and a few others have done. I figure there will be a song or two that will be in rotation but not played every night and a new song or two as the tour evolves. If she doesn't play her biggest songs someone will complain she didn't do so and so. Most great artists keep the same set list wth some minor variations for their entire career and / or have a few varied set lists for different parts of tours.

Finally a new cap! (is that official?)

Glad to see Brooklyn Baby, Shades and West Coast are in it Would have loved to see American and Ride included So if this in fact is the list (guess tonight we shall know) it would appear the concert is about 30 to 40 minutes longer making it about 2 hours in length (or somewhere between one hour 45 minutes, and 2 hours 15 minutes depending on how long solos are, and the time spent at the end, if that is still going to be the same.

@@leaked_version & @@letsescapelizzy Then how do you explain Leonard Cohen? Over 80 years old and hotter than ever. With NO hit singles, and in his entire life, one top 10 album. He sells out Madison Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall and only does it with his lyrics, which is poetry. The vast majority of hit tours now are by artists who were from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s who have kept their entire fan base (those still living of course) and do so with zero new product, or when a new record comes out, it does not sell well, except for the fan base. What about Garth Brooks? He retired for 15 years, came back, radio won't touch his new stuff, but he is setting records in concerts left and right (and not only that, he is now free to be the liberal he always was, but had to hide when he was in the mainstream country market going for #1s on the country chart. Garth actually is a good example- he forced people to find him, to listen to him only on country stations and refused to release singles to the Top40 stations, and people did. Maybe a good example is Matraca Berg. Mainstream country, pop or rock did not play her songs. Yet she now is in the songwriters hall of fame and others have sung hundreds of her songs. And Matraca also had the problem of being taken seriously because of her really good looks. Yes, art exists. Not everyone is in it for the money, and Lana don't need a penny, so no need for money. Lana found and got fame, on her own terms, not on the old boys network way of doing things. That alone is why the old boys network hates her. Because they can't mold her or shape her, and they can't control her. (see:Prince for another artist they couldn't control) For too long record companies have ripped artists off. Lana is doing it her way, not anyone elses way. Whatever she does or doesn't do is 100% great by me, because it's her life and she is doing as she pleases. (Perhaps some here while debating minutia are actually forgetting it's her life and she is doing it on her own terms, and in her private life, she seems happier than ever. Maybe thinking otherwise is just thinking wrong. The 27 narrative right before UV after all was the media picking up on a wrong fact. She was never 27 at the time, she was 28. But the media writes what they want, and ran with it. Lana outsmarted them, and Lana outsmarted Sam Smith. Lana got the #1. Sam still hasn't gone higher than #2. I doubt anyone will remember Sam ten years from now, there will be 100 newer more relevant people than him. But Lana will still be singing (perhaps as Elizabeth by then, perhaps still as Lana). The one shame is, she didn't get the chance with Lou Reed. That would have been major. and Lana is always one second away from releasing one of her many unreleased (and future unreleased) pure pop instantly catch and trendy songs that would instantly go to the top but she doesn't. Because that doesn't fit with what she wants. But we all know them because we are lucky enough that Queen of Disaster and Pale Moonlight and the others were put out there so we can hear them. Which is more important in the world? Writing a song or making a buck? The power is in writing and creating. The creations are there already. A true artist creates, not sells. (like most actual paint artists, they are not famous until decades later). It is two different areas of being. Lana in her sleep could snore a song ten times better than the new Britney/Iggy song Pretty girls, is that really what anyone here would want Lana to become just to have a number 1 song?

@@LittleFool - John Lennon threw up before he performed, he had a fear of the stage, Carly Simon does too, especially in her hit making days. Brian Wilson spent 2 decades away from the stage and preferred the studio. I think other artists over time are going to have #1 hits with Lana's songs, and I also think Lana will get billing on some major hits that use her lyrics from her. Now that Marvin Gaye's estate won their lawsuit and now that Bruno Mars/Mark Ronson's song recently without a lawsuit added 5 new songwriters to the credits, I think we are going to start seeing in the next five to ten years, Lana winning a lot of awards as songwriter and eventually being in the Songwriter hall of fame, which includes not only recent people, but songwriters from every single era in music. While not as flashy as the Rock hall, in some ways just as or more important. I for one am happy for the chance 13 months later to see another tour, and a new album in the works.

David Bowie who is comparatable to Lana was a person of many phases and stages. Bowie was always played on WNEW-FM when they were free choice anything goes, almost no singles played, just album artists I liken Lana to the WNEW core artists that were somewhat like the toys on the island of Misfit toys Top 40 didn't play much of them, but they had status and acclaim and are still the basis of the format today artists like The stones The Doors The Who Zeppelin and the groups that followed imitating them (though zep was imitating others themselves) Lou Reed Leonard Cohen (the 1960s Suzanne and others) Tom Waits Buddy Holly The Animals (Eric Burdon, lead singer, who had the 2nd hit with "Don't let me be misunderstood" that supposedly Lana is putting on Honeymoon. John Lennon- but not necessarily the singles, same with the Beatles (remember, Sgt. Peppers never had a single released) Elton John from day one(1969, before the hits, during the hits, after the hits, but not necessarily playing the commercial hits) REM Clash, Sex Pistols, Ramones Blondie before they were commercial Pete Seeger Harry Chapin (who like Lana was unique, and who had one surprise #1, but was never considered a singles artist as his songs were way too long for Top 40) Judy Collins Richie Havens, Donovan, Jeff Beck, Cream(Clapton) (anyone who played Woodstock or the other 60's,70's fests, where Lana would have fit right in) So I put Lana in that category

@heartcore- Mariah had 19 number one songs, none of which stand out as being a Mariah Carey song,. They all were interchangeable and Whitney or Celine could have sang them. Nobody was copying Mariah as she was a copy of many others. Lana has already had one person after another copying her, her style, her videos (Taylor recently did), and everyone wants to be here. The difference is the Rock Hall of Fame is for unique one of a generation types (though the Hall is Male biased both in who picks the members and the members it picks, but Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed and dozens of others never had one #1 single after another yet are loved by the hall. Singles oriented groups like The Monkeys or Chicago or even groups like Moody Blues never get into the Hall. Carole King if not mistaken only entered the Hall in tandem with Geffen as Songwriters, not solo performers. I doubt Celine Dion will ever make the hall unless the record company really pushed it and Mariah is not a shoo-in either.(see next paragraph-) And the truest difference between Lana and Mariah? Mariah ACTUALLY "F'd her way to the top", being the girlfriend later married for awhile, to the head of Sony records at the time of her signing (and her popularity for the most part ended on their breakup), while Lana wrote the song as a no, she didn't actually reach the top by doing that and it was written as a retort to the haters who said that. Lana should though release a real Christmas song, perhaps a duet with Leonard Cohen (or Gaga) so that she can be heard at Christmas time when all the stations go 24 hours of Christmas for the Season.

@@PARADIXO- what do you mean "she isn't successful"? Four top 10 lps/cds/albums/whatever including 1 #1 and 1#2 is ultra-successful. In the older days perhaps it would have been Album Oriented Rock (meaning significant acts like Dylan and the Dead and Pink Flloyd that for the most part, except for one offs, don't bother with singles, and just release albums -great everlasting albums that people listen to the whole album time and time again Why do so many here want Lana to be less than she already is and just be a clone of the ones who have mindless single after single, each more forgettable than the first? If the Top 10 hits come for Lana it will be like Summertime a surprise, but she is not going for top 10 single airplay, though if I ran the radio stations, I would go against type and play her. If this were 1969, she already would have had 10 number one singles in a row (or top 10, ala Petula Clark or Mama Cass, solo and group) 50 years from now, music lovers won't be able to name one Mariah Carey song (except maybe the Christmas one she basically stole from Vince Vance & the Valients) yet people will remember Born to Die and Ultraviolence (and the news ones yet to be heard) Quick, what do people remember the Beatles for, first and foremost? They think of Sgt. Pepper's. What do people instantly think of Beach boys first and foremost? They think of Pet Sounds and Smile. Pink Floyd? Dark Side of the moon, 40 years and it's still on the LP/CD/Album chart (3 years later, Born to Die is still on the Top 200 alongside Darkside) Album Orient Rock, Lana would be playing on the legendary WNEW-FM were it still around today

Check the charts- Paradise indeed charted on it's own, and is there in the history of the chart books (see:Joel Whitburn © for the history of all the billboard charts, at #8. Indeed, it counts a separate top 10 album on the all time charts. Billboard is the chart everyone looks to (and the only chart remaining from the 1940s to the present. Record World and Cashbox long since closed down.) The Beatles and Elvis also have their own in the listings as such, some 3 song EPs also are considered on the singles charts among others. So yes, Hollywood will be the 4th Top 10 LP on the Billboard charted Top 200 and notated officially in Top LPS/CDS, etc. And for a short while all 3 were still charting together after Ultraviolence was released. Each entry individual counts separate from the others OFFICIALLY.

It used to be said many decades ago- that the way one knew they made it either was to appear on the Cover of the Rolling Stone, Have a number one lp (anyone can have a #1 single, but a #1 album is more important and got the attention of the cool radio stations like the long gone WNEW-FM which loved lps (and one of the last surviving links, Dennis Elsas just retired two days ago with his last show) and appear in the New York Times Crossword puzzle. (which is like having a #1 single, happens very rarely, but when it does, it will happen again to the great ones- And this was the second time.) and it was specific to Lana Del Rey (it didn't say actress Turner or singer Del Rey) it was specific to Lana. Now it's 3 for 3 So in the last 2 weeks, we got a new song, a new video is coming, the tour is starting at which point there will be hundreds of new versions of songs, a NY Times Crossword puzzle mention, followed by Honeymoon released in a week with no competition and a second number one LP (which would be historic and give Lana FOUR top ten lps in a row, which again, would be historic especially for an artist not going for number 1 singles or being the flavor of the day. BTW- I bet Lana can finish the entire puzzle, in all my life only once did I get every letter done.One has to not only be smart, but get the references. Actually, that would be a great item to get signed. Gotta keep that in mind.

Just did. That was harder to put in order than one would think (and to keep it to 20) Thanks!

I just realized I thought I sent them in, but didn't know how to send them in. Where does/did one post it? If it isn't too late, will be able in the morning.