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    hmm i don't think we're getting a number 1 album either in the US or UK... Taylor is going strong with the promo and Lover is doing very well

     

    ANYWAYS

     

    Norman Fucking Rockwell (song) had Lana's biggest debut ever on the Global Top50 on Spotify, debuting at #26

    it's at #18 in the US and #34 in the UK


    Spotify WW:

    53. Fuck It I Love You

    55. Doin' Time

    70. Cinnamon Girl

    83. Mariners Apartment Complex

    87. Love Song

    108. Venice Bitch

    119. The Greatest

    122. How To Disappear

    123. California

    170. The Next Best American Record

    182. Happiness is a butterfly

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    Have you ever heard of crusades tho before claiming christianity never hurt anyone

    I mean of course on the other hand christians were opressed in the roman empire so there's always the other side of the coin but saying catholic theme wasn't at least a little bit problematic is a big stretch

    + that irish catholic/protestant conflict

    any religious existent belief has done good and bad. it's not just ab christianity

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    u asked about cultural appropriation tho, and if u take 3 seconds to google it the definition is “Cultural appropriation is a concept in sociology dealing with the adoption of the elements of a minority culture by members of the dominant culture. It is distinguished from equal cultural exchange due to the presence of a colonial element and imbalance of power.” i know i definitely struggled illustrating this in my previous answer to u and i’m sorry lol i was literally so out of it cuz i’m sleep deprived and i should have just posted the definition to begin with . like u said christianity has always had a very deep and long influence in culture bc it has always been a majority as opposed to a minority (in america, like i said above, bc this is an american event). christianity in america literally dates back to the first colonies, aka the people who used it as a form of oppression. they forced natives to convert and it has always been widely accepted because ppl didn’t really have much of a choice. slaves were forced to practice it. that’s why it has to do with racism, bc it’s inherently a part of the power structures here and it has been used to suppress other religions and cultures practiced by people of color

    i understand your point but let me show you an example

     

    rihanna (who is black, a minority) wore a hijab in a mosque a few years for a photoshoot and was for this crucified and criticized arund the world.

    talking again about bella hadid (a white muslim) in the same mind set why is it ok for her to desecrate christian imagery for fashion ? it's the same exact thing

     

    i don't want to come off rude i just think this topic is very delicate but interesting :)

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    i’m really tired so this is a pretty generalized statement but the difference is that no one faces oppression for practicing catholicism. like the main deal with cultural appropriation is usually that it has do with people being systematically oppressed for something be it religion or just their own culture and then later the same people who were the oppressors decide “this is fashion” and use the thing they previously used as a vehicle for bigotry as an accessory. this is an incomplete statement bc i didn’t mention other things but it’s 2:30 am and i’m going to sleep so someone else can finish this for me and probably be more concise and comprehensible lol. mainly the people in power have been catholic/christian/whatever and reverse racism doesn’t exist so it’s not the same thing . it is technically cultural appropriation but that phrase was invented by people of color to describe their specific experiences and so i wouldn’t really feel comfortable using that phrase to describe this. if you take it out of context and look at the definition of the words separately then yes it does apply to this situation, but you can’t really take it out of context because the context of historical racism and bigotry is crucial and part of the definition itself . sorry this was so messy like i said it’s the middle of the night and i can barely see out of my eyes lol idk how to say what i mean rn, i think i just restated the same thing over and over when i meant to make a couple different points lol someone else take this one pls

    my point had nothing to do with racism or reverse racism

     

    Christianity is a religious belief like any other and just like other religions it has done both good AND bad. Why should we defend islamic cultural appropriation for example and not our own ? I don't see any difference at all

     

    If katy perry (a christian) dresses """asian"" it's not good but if let's say bella hadid (a muslim) dresses as the Virgin Mary it's acceptable ???

     

     

    Once again i'm not personally offended i just dont see any difference since christianity actually has always had  a very deep and long influence in culture

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