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  1. Posted

    1 hour ago, Party1949 said:

    Thisssss!! It's not the "woke" or political topics itself which bother me in the majority of Love + Fear songs, PTP and Man's World - it's the way the message is conveyed through the surface-level statements. Like "there were riots in America", "Harvey Weinstein went to jail"... it sounds like a listing of trending topics without any exploration, commentary or lyricism. It's not cleverly worded nor has any value as poetry. That's why it all sonds fake as if Marina was tying too hard to give off that vibe of Woke Feminist Icon (C)

     

    I actually really liked Purge the Poison as a song, it's catchy, sounds like TFJ and Froot's lovechild and the production is fresh. The video is great too, I love the ruby slippers and hope to see more Oz references in other visuals. Both of the released songs mention witches as a metaphor for "inconvenient" women, so it'd be great if Marina used some characters of the setting to further develop this comparison

    EXACTLY. It sounds like she’s reading off the Reddit homepage or something. Electra Heart was fascinating because it was critiquing society and women’s roles and materialism but it didn’t exactly SAY that. Some songs of course had blunt lyrics but most of them were more hidden. 
     

    I always think of this. Marina KNEW that if she died her hair blonde she’d get more attention because that’s how Hollywood is. And it WORKED. The same thing she was critiquing, she also sorta did?, and it was like mocking it whilst also being it. She even said herself that even though Primadonna was mocking someone like that, she also sorta was someone like that. It was fascinating. It made me see how someone could be drawn to it but also disgusted by it. Electra knew she was toxic, but she also understood how and why she got there. We knew society was treating her bad, and men, and that she calloused over. But we inferred it. We weren’t always just told it. 

     

    Getting lost in the world of Electra Heart was what drew me to Marina. I dug deeper: I don’t need to do that on her new stuff. It’s very blunt and to the point. It almost feels *cries* lazy. You could tell Electra was really planned and thought out. But then again I love concept albums, I am only gay after all.

     

    I think it’s even better that many critics attacked Electra Heart. The very machine Marina was fucking with and mocking half the time (the American music industry) also couldn’t see that it was literally making a joke of people who acted like that. It made it all the better for me! 

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  2. Posted

    I think what I miss the most, and I’ve thought about this a lot, is that in her other albums, especially Electra Heart, she was making societal criticisms but she did it in a way that really made you think. Like the average person would hear primadonna and think “oh catchy fun bitchy pop song” and it worked that way on a surface level, but for those that really looked into it, it obviously was satire. I miss the more hidden pretty on the surface but dark deep down kinda thing. I love her obviously! I just want less in your face and more “make me think in that special Marina way.” Idk I just thought Electra Heart was so much better than people let on. She really studied women from the fifties and sixties and nailed it with these over the top descriptions of them. Not to be that fan that can’t move on from EH, but I just miss it. Marina stuck out to me because of how you could easily bop to it but you could also really analyze it. I low key think it was more of an effective way of getting a point across. Electra Heart really made me think about materialism and roles and identity concepts without saying “This this and that” Idk. Rant over! But I miss that magic charm. I loved it. I loved the smoke and mirrors of it all. I loved analyzing it. I still study that character and rewatch the videos to see if I missed anything. I just loved everything about it. It was the perfect concept album. Everyone gives Lana credit for changing alternative sad pop but I swear Electra Heart was a huge part of that too. (And TFJ, and FROOT, too.) I heard in an interview when she said “they wanted me to be more commercial so I said okay, I’ll do it, but I’ll do it as a different person.” Amazing. 

     

     

    TLDR: I miss the Marina that made you think “there’s more to this than shes letting on” or “this isn’t what it seems.” The songs that could be played on the radio and no one but some people would listen and think “oh this is actually mocking people who really act like this I.e primadonna.”

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  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Bunny Mozart said:

    Was listening to some Marina last night and put on Starring Role. Something about the lines "You don't love me / Big fucking deal / I'll never tell you how I feel" just feels so punchy yet sad. I love it a lot :xcry:

     

    I FREAKING ADORE THAT LINE. Also the one about "I send my best regards from hell" 

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  6. Posted

    3 hours ago, 5adboy said:

    I’m so sorry but Future Nostalgia will never be at the same level of Born to Die and Electra Heart... They have such deep and unique concepts meanwhile FN is just a disco insipired album :biblio:

    I do agree with you! I was just using it more as a basic pop concept album. Electra Heart and Born To Die clearly win, hints why I'm on LanaBoards and not DuaBoards :kiss:

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    As much as I love most of Marinas stuff (except L+f. I HATE IT) I really miss Electra Heart. It really made a mark on me and I was so into the story. 

    I guess I just really like concept albums from Born to Die, to Electra Heart, to Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia even. I like when a specific story is told through a line of similar visuals, kinda like a movie. I don't know why, I guess because I'm gay lol. It seems like artists do a concept album and its usually successful and then they never do it again. 

    I wonder if it has something do with the label wanting to establish them as artists and set themselves apart and when they've "made it" they can just do whatever music they truly want too. 

     

    I really got lost in this glitzy but moderny vintage housewife vibe that was Electra Heart. I relate to that because my mom was like that. I miss it. 

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  9. Posted

    3 hours ago, Life said:

     

    i think everyone still has that feeling deep down really.

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    I know she denied it but I mean, I wouldn't actually think she'd admit it. I like to think Marinas the kind of person who play it down but its a TOTAL slight against her :omfg:

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  14. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Loreen said:

    Can y'all please explain why y'all dislike Gold so much... Honestly I don't find any defect on the track. Tender and catchy production, nice vocals, empowered and mature lyrics... 

    I completely agree. I find myself singing the chorus alot out of nowhere for some reason! Its catchy. Gold is MUCH better than Weeds. 

     

    Also when I say I like this song over that, I still love them all. I'm a huge fan of Marina and always have been. I just have favorites and ones I like better. 

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  15. Posted

    46 minutes ago, Life said:


    did I say that? no I did not.

    :cuteface:
    it’s not her most inventive though, let’s be real.

     

    AMEN! Like I love Forget and will listen to it, but still its not anything I haven't seen before. I'm just used to Marina having lyrics that are just, ugh, idk, amazing. 

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  16. Posted

    3 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

     

    I reckon FROOT would perform much, much better should it have been promoted properly. Marina handled the single choices herself and didn't care about the chart performance at all, at least that's what she said at the very beginning of the campaign. Was there even any commercial made for FROOT? Because marketing strategy of both TFJ and EH was quite big.

    No you're definitely right. Electra Heart easily had the most commercial push, but if you laid all the albums in front of me and told me to guess which one would perform the best, I would pick Electra Heart everytime. 

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  19. Posted

    3 hours ago, Party Favor said:

    You have no taste in you don’t like blue, but not shocking given the constant bad opinions in this thread :typewriter:

    girl you aint got no taste if you like L+F. Bye. 

    I said what I said. I'd trade L+F, Mans World, and MOST of Froot for TFJ and Electra Heart. (And so would the record companies, based on commercial performance) 

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  20. Posted

    8 hours ago, vrtvie said:

    I understand your point of view, but "the world sucks and here's why" is 100% better than "hey, enjoy your life"; I guess that is why she got such hatred for L+F from her diehard fans -- such lyrics are completely cringeworthy and remind us of stupid psychologists who think that adding a positive post on social media would actually help somebody. If you stay cool, you'd probably enjoy your life, but she, as an artist who got recognition mostly thanks to the gay fanbase who's known to consist of social depressed outsiders, should rethink her message. And To be Human/Life is strange was "the world sucks but I don't know why", so it wasn't better either.

     

    I agree that Marina needs to be pushed sometimes, and truthfully the times when she was depressed and perfectionist, although wasn't good for her mental health, it was the time when she delivered the best. I know there is a misconception that being unhappy means being a better artist, and Marina has really critised this idea and I agree with her -- some of her songs PROVE that she is capable of producing awesome tunes being happy (like, Froot the song -- one of the most amazing songs of hers, if not the best, actually), although it is the whole album that feels rather weaker compared to her previous records (EH/TFJ). I really like FROOT the album, but one can notice that the lyrics were much simpler (Forget, Blue, I'm a Ruin, etc.) and devoid of any metaphors known from TFJ, which I don't mind personally, but it is just a thing that can be easily noticed in comparison. The thing that I'm bugged about is that there are too many filler songs like Weeds or You (L+F) that are neither lyrically nor sonically spectacular. I wish Marina the best and she just needs to learn to strike a balance in her artistry. For me, Man's World shows that she might've achieved that, but the time will tell.

    I honestly COULDN''T agree more! I didn't want to push the idea that depressed artists create better music, but for some reason, it seems like some of that is happening to a degree here. Which I sorta understand, having so much raw emotion. As an artist myself, I do my best creative work when I'm honestly not feeling so hot. Its strange but its very true, for me personally. I couldn't agree more about FROOT - but I also agree that we can start to see this "basic sorta song" thing pop up in FROOT, starting with Forget. I like Forget, don't get me wrong, but I remember when it came out I thought really, Marina? It just seems like anyone could've wrote it. How do you go from songs like Shampain and E.V.O.L to much more bland songs like Forget? Its so weird. It just doesn't have that tell tale Marina mark on it. And I think to survive as an artist in this world, you have to set yourself apart and make people remember you, and she used to do that amazingly. But I just can't get behind the more bland songs! :(

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  21. Posted

    I have been a LONG stan of Marina and I must say, the newer tracks sound much more SJW and like a college student project. No hate there, obviously, but I miss the emotional and heavier stuff we saw frequently in TFJ, Electra Heart, and FROOT. While I obviously stand by the lyrics in Mans World, I can't sit here and act like its anything new that we haven't yet heard before. I know she was miserable writing most of her other records due to heavy commercial push and collaboration, but I can't lie when I say I think its some of her best work. I adore Marina, but I think sometimes she needs to be pushed a bit, otherwise we get more bland things like L+F which I played once and never could again. It just didn't "Stick" with me like Electra Heart or FROOT did and I REALLY tried. 

     

    EDIT: Afterthought, I just am getting sick of heavy "the world sucks theres why" songs and that may be a personal thing. It just feels kinda cliche, and overdone. I agree with all of it and am very progressive, but I just kinda, idk. It just feels contrived sometimes or something. 

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  23. Posted

    Lana get to #1 and prove them all wrong. You are LANA DEL REY 

     

    :oprah:  :oprah:  :oprah:  :lanahairflip3:  :lanahairflip3:


    after listening to it a lot I really like it! It's very entrancing and the chorus is just beautiful, it sounds so good. I see why it's compared to Gods & Monsters but it's so much better (it took me like 10 months to get into G&M) 

    Same! But now I absolutely adore G&M

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