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At some point in the future, I really hope Lana dives headfirst into a really specific and experimental genre & maintains it throughout the entirety of the record (even if it’s not my initial personal preference). I think this is why Honeymoon and Ultraviolence are lauded for both their originality and cohesion but produce polarizing opinions among her listeners and critics. These genre-heavy sounds are often growers but showcase her ability to adopt & complement a soundscape with her own artistry. UV, HM, and NFR are practically equal in my eyes, but personal (and very subjective) wish for her last record was that it would have a more..readily recognizable(?) sound. Idk if this makes sense but maybe someone gets it
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Heroin vs HIADTFAWLMTH-BIHI
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This is how I feel about Ultraviolence, too! I cannot explain how earth-shattering it was when the record finally clicked. For me, my pre-req for delving into UV was anguish & NFR’s was healing from it lmao
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It’s such a cute and cinematic-sounding song, but I find myself rarely listening to it because it does very little for me. It’s mostly a personal preference for me, but I 100% agree lol
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NFR, as with any of Lana’s records, contains its fair share undeveloped songwriting, but I don’t think that writing that is accessible, less shocking, and/or cinematic is indicative of poor lyricism as much as a matter of personal preference (if that makes any sense). My appeal to NFR’s songwriting (especially in tracks like hope, The greatest, MAC) largely stems from how purposeful she utilizes her references, analogies, and sensory details. Not only that, but she also maintains a sense of intimacy even when she’s drawing from a pool of extremely specific life experiences; the line, “Serving up god in a burnt coffee pot for the triad,” is a great instance of this. Again, I totally agree that NFR has plenty moments where the writing is cliched or lacking in nuance, but the same could also be said for her other records as well. However, I’d argue that many of NFR’s most mature lyrical moments show a clear progression from the most developed of her past records, but that’s just me also can’t figure out how to remove the spoiler so just ignore her lol
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I don’t know if it’s my all-time favorite bridge, but holy fuck is it good! The emotion paired with the key change really adds to how intense & dark the lyrics are You can completely tell Lana meant it when she said it was her most personal song from LFL
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“objectively less corn” made me laugh thank you for this lol
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I mean, I can’t speak for the OP, but I really feel as though NFR’s best lyrical moments really showed a progression in depth, maturity, and nuance when compared to UV’s lyrical highlights. I also feel that NFR (at least thematically and in terms of songwriting) was often just as risky and explorative. In NFR (the album), she describes sex with a frank flippancy, touches on her history of hard drug & alcohol use, reflects on the turmoil of the political environment, and addresses her mental health in both a poetic and sometimes graphic way. In terms of raw vocal emotiveness and a similar production, Ultraviolence takes the cake, and that’s why I love them almost equally. However, I would argue that NFR not being controversial doesn’t detract from it being groundbreaking from a lyrical or thematic standpoint, but that’s just me also, out of curiosity, is there any chance you had a link to where Lana described NFR as being safe from that aspect? I was trying to find the video but was struggling lol edit: to clarify, there were aspects to the record I felt were “safe,” but lyrics and themes were—for the most part—not included
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Absolutely. While I understand that many feel as though her characteristic soundscape wasn’t well-represented, I feel like the core identity of her artistry and what distinguishes her from other musicians was just as prominent on NFR as any other record she’s released. I think NFR convinced skeptics of her raw talent and insight without the need of lush production, and I think hope demonstrates this pretty well. With only a piano and her voice, she maintains this acutely introspective awareness of her own past and emotions that we’ve grown to admire. It’s beautiful & mature songwriting, and it’s so distinctly her own: a ballad chock-full of purposeful references and imagery that do not rely on the coloring of additional instrumentation. Does the record have weak moments? Sure, but I genuinely think NFR stands a great chance at being considered of the most timeless & objectively solid records released in the past few decades
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*BROKEN* ORIGINAL Random Lana Discussion
PatentLeatherDoOver replied to COLACNT's topic in New Releases
I can’t wait until we have both Chemtrails and Behind the Iron Gates together. Considering how recently the poetry from the book was written, I definitely think we should see some parallels between the record and her writing (assuming the book was largely written before recording the album). -
I forgot she was partnering with Simon & Schuster! That probably means we’ll have the poetry book without any insane delays (since she’s likely working with a deadline). That may also suggest that her hiatus likely won’t be very long. I’m excited now lol
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*BROKEN* ORIGINAL Random Lana Discussion
PatentLeatherDoOver replied to COLACNT's topic in New Releases
This is exactly what I see her doing, too. I think Chemtrails won’t have much promo on her end outside of the music videos, and I’m honestly cool with a lowkey release Lana working recently Dawes and taking a break to work compiling her next poetry book has me hopeful we’ll get another “vanity project” in the same way Honeymoon was in the future. She’s already had critical acclaim, so I’m thinking maybe she’ll dive into a super specific sound (like the trippy jazz of HM) on her next full-length record. Then again, Chemtrails could very well be the vanity project equivalent to HM. We’ll see! -
Sincerely don’t want to get dragged for this, but I’m lowkey excited for the next book! From her description, Violet seemed to be a collection of both old and new poems, and I think Behind the Iron Gates reflects more recent, matured writing. Patent Leather Do-Over honestly blew me away (especially the middle chunk of it), and I’m truthfully way more excited about this project than I was Violet!
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I could definitely see us getting the book this coming summer, but maybe it will be sooner? not entirely sure what this means for the covers album, though lol
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I wonder how long “a while” will be..All things considered, I seriously loved the poem from Behind the Iron Gates, and I’m excited to see which direction she takes this book compared to Violet. She’s constantly in the studio, so I don’t think it’ll be a super long wait until we hear from her after Chemtrails
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Riverside (w/ Barrie-James O'Neill)
PatentLeatherDoOver replied to AKA Lizzy Grant's topic in Non-Album Content
The outro is so heavenly. I’m not super familiar with musical production, but it almost sounds like they’re using a really grainy mellotron To use so few instruments, the song has so much atmosphere. Is This Happiness has a similar quality I can’t quite pinpoint -
While not everyone’s preferred style, I really enjoy stream of consciousness lyricism paired with somber, minimalist instrumentals The themes of this track are really reminiscent of those in Burnt Norton (Interlude)
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Terrence Loves You vs Heroin
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Swan Song vs Oh Say Can You See
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Never done one of these, but here are a few of mine: •Swan Song is one of the best songs she’s produced in terms of atmosphere. •The bridge to Wait for Life is one of her most vocally emotive performances; in bridge, she combines jazz improv singing with near-screaming of the phrase, “Feels like I’m falling apart.” •I feel as though LMLYLAW won’t be fully representative of COCC’s sound in the same way Bartender didn’t encompass all of the sonic elements on NFR.
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California vs Wait for Life
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Dude, I thought the exact same thing when I heard that part of the song! Taylor’s cited Lana as her favorite female lyricist, so this it’s definitely possible that she drew inspiration from her!
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Did anyone get Lana vibes in the chorus of Tolerate It? The line, “I wait by the door like I’m just a kid/Use my best colors for your portrait,” was so reminiscent of the childlike adoration and attention to sensory detail Lana includes in her tracks. Even the way she breathily scoops up her pitch on the words “kid” and “portrait” reminded me of Lana as well. This could just be me, though lol
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I think a dark monologue (similar to her audible performance of Bare Feet on Linoleum) spoken hollowly over the bright, lux-heavy imagery shown in the teaser would be such a fucking cool juxtaposition. I’ve been dying for something with the same raw & intimate storytelling of the Ride monologue, and I think her recent poetry exploration would make this a perfect opportunity to include something like this
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Personally, I do think it will eventually come out since she went as far as to release Summertime and showed herself in the studio for the album a few times on social media. I feel like this record differs from other teased projects (such as the “unreleased” album) in that she released a single & music video for it, but I guess we’ll see lol