Coronavirus: COVID-19

[WaitForLife 5,236]

We will all die!

[sjatib 5,172]

She cancelled before any of this got really bad, though, so I think there's the possibility that she really did cancel due to her own illness/personal reasons.

 

I still think it'd be irresponsible for any of these upcoming festivals to go ahead, but that's obviously in the hands of the organisers. This virus can spread very fast; as I said on another thread, Italy went from 1k cases to 5k cases in a day, and now has over 10k. Therefore, the argument that [country] doesn't have many cases and is "safe" isn't a good one.

 

Of course the situation wasn't this bad when she did (not) the announcement, but the threat was already a thing. Also true that she may have cancelled it due to personal reasons, but the thing with illness (at least the thing she described, losing her voice etc.) didn't really seem very plausible to me. Maybe it was the disastrous way she managed the situation what made her credibility questionable, don't know.

[Make me your Dream Life 87,780]

Any word and reliable sources on vaccines being made or planned to etc. ? 

[kitschesque 9,882]

So Poland closed all schools and unis for 2 weeks FML

Also museums theatres etc

[maxthehitman 1,729]

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[Formation 4,191]

Nothing yet. No word.

I guess they are still testing stuff to see what works.

 

 

Any news about if Animals get this virus ?

I am still wondering if animals, like cows or horses, or even your pet dog and cat could get this virus ?

Has anyone come across this type of news in the newspaper or TV ?

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/what-pet-owners-should-know-about-coronavirus/285-97e1f49d-f5ff-4e6d-ad3b-c425e5f964a0

 

It's still uncertain the effects of it, if any, on other animals. However, they guidelines are definitely to keep pets away from people that test positive just in case.

[maxthehitman 1,729]

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/what-pet-owners-should-know-about-coronavirus/285-97e1f49d-f5ff-4e6d-ad3b-c425e5f964a0

 

It's still uncertain the effects of it, if any, on other animals. However, they guidelines are definitely to keep pets away from people that test positive just in case.

 

 

Thanks 

[Velvet Elvis 223]

Here in Greece they closed schools and universities for 2 weeks. 2020 has started with a pandemic         what else is on the way?

[Make me your Dream Life 87,780]

does anyone wanna help solve/ understand this w me or something :

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/covid-19

Similar to MERS and SARS viruses, they belong to the same family:
https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus

here's the world health org site, it's pretty useful in answering laymen's language: 
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses


I'm thinking that if there's already some kind of genetic similarities between covid 19 and the other 2 viruses mentioned, that that's what scientists might already be looking into to better understand at least, it's structure and what to do w it, in coming up w a vaccine .. or at least, it's some kind of clue or start 

here's another site from the natl biotech site, it's got a good summary of the virus, and goes into the symptoms pretty well, transmission etc.: 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554776/
 

[maxthehitman 1,729]

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[callmedecember 2,319]

well here in spain everything's being literally HELL and people are going crazy, in my city there are about 20 cases, my uni will probably get shut down tomorrow or on friday since a student tested positive, i'm pretty calm tho like i think health staff are considering the fact that it could get seasonal like the flu and stuff so we'll have to learn to live with it i fear

[Divisive Princess 3,754]

Literally at WHAT point will this end? Like surely it's only going to get worse but everything is already shutting down?? I mean where do we go from here..

[Make me your Dream Life 87,780]

here's something else that seems real peculiar. it's not from a medical journal or anything, but the sources are linked on the page:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/10/coronavirus-is-mysteriously-sparing-kids-killing-elderly-understanding-why-may-help-defeat-virus/
it basically explains how the virus doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the young, especially children. which, makes it seem like the virus is selective? 

from the world health org: 
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

page 11 and 12 states the virus skips(?), or at least doesn't impact the young so strongly. tests in China, at least: 
 

Children

Data on individuals aged 18 years old and under suggest that there is a relatively low attack rate in this age group (2.4% of all reported cases). Within Wuhan, among testing of ILI samples, no children were positive in November and December of 2019 and in the first two weeks of January 2020. From available data, and in the absence of results from serologic studies, it is not possible to determine the extent of infection among children, what role children play in transmission, whether children are less susceptible or if they present differently clinically (i.e. generally milder presentations). The Joint Mission learned that infected children have largely been identified through contact tracing in households of adults. Of note, people interviewed by the Joint Mission Team could not recall episodes in which transmission occurred from a child to an adult.
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Individuals at highest risk for severe disease and death include people aged over 60 years and those with underlying conditions such as hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, chronic respiratory disease and cancer. Disease in children appears to be relatively rare and mild with approximately 2.4% of the total reported cases reported amongst individuals aged under 19 years. A very small proportion of those aged under 19 years have developed severe (2.5%) or critical disease (0.2%).

from the actual article:

“With respiratory infections like this, we usually see a U-shaped curve on who gets hits hardest. Young children at one end of the U because their immune systems aren’t yet developed and old people at the other end because their immune systems grow weaker,” said Vineet Menachery, a virologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch. “With this virus, one side of the U is just completely missing.”

Figuring out why children are so unaffected could lead to breakthroughs in understanding how and why the virus sickens and kills other age groups, said Frank Esper, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at Cleveland Clinic Children’s. Among the questions Esper and others are exploring: Is the severity of infection related to what patients were exposed to previously? Does it have to do with how our immune systems change with age? Or could it be due to pollution damage in the lungs that people accumulate over years?

“Or maybe it has nothing to do with the virus and has to do with host, like underlying conditions in the lungs, diabetes or hypertension. After all, few 7-year-olds or newborns have hypertension,” said Esper, who studies viral respiratory infections and new diseases. “Figuring out what’s at play here could be helpful in so many ways."

 

It's interesting, the comment on how the immune systems of children aren't fully developed yet, compared to how the aged have theirs deteriorating. That and how the virus seems to sort of work w those w respiratory conditions and similar already (hypertension etc.) 

it seems like, and yeah it sounds like common sense, that those w respiratory problems already (children included) are most at risk... 

still begs the question though.. 

[ChicaCherryCola 1,393]

Literally at WHAT point will this end? Like surely it's only going to get worse but everything is already shutting down?? I mean where do we go from here..

This would only end if people really respected the quarantine and didn't move anywhere they didn't have to for 2-3 weeks (no malls and only online shopping, no parties, no concerts, no museums, no restaurants except take-away as a last resort, work from home when possible). Eventually, one last batch of people would get sick.

My University closed on Monday night (no cases were detected, it's just prevention) and the city bars were NEVER so full. Last week a classmate coughed in the middle of the hallway and didn't cover his mouth and it's very likely he could have contaminated me with his fluids, and on Monday he was coughing yet once again without any care in this word. Another classmate of mine had spent the previous two weeks abroad visiting another country, in one of the world's most visited cities (and of course she didn't spent this time clossed in her hotel room or living like a local, she was a 24/7 tourist among millions of others), and she came back to a small classroom full of students without any second though. Today the cases spiked and people began buying the entire supermarket - and in this same day, the beaches were clogged with people sunbathing almost on top of each other. There's no point in closing some buildings if the people that risk contaminating them see it as just an opportunity for a small almost-Spring break.

[Kurac na Biciklu 2,359]

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[jvcx 3,644]

I live just 30km from the capital and most of the people reported to be infected are in the capital area (32 at the moment so not much but still, 25 new cases in Finland were reported today). If I didn't work in Helsinki I wouldn't be worried because back when I was unemployed I only left the house to go to the grocery store which is literally next to our building. I just had shifts for 6 days in a row so I've been going back and forth and using public transport is making me somewhat paranoid, with the media saying the situation is most likely going to explode in the next couple of weeks. I'm going to my parents for the rest of the week so I'll have to take a 4 hour bus in the morning and I'm slightly nervous but I haven't seen my family after the New Year and this is my only chance in a while, also bc I'm supposed to record material for a pre-assignment for a school I'm trying to get in. First two infections in their town were reported this evening.

[maxthehitman 1,729]

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[Barry 5,932]

People saying the UK will move to "Phase 2" tomorrow shutting schools, sporting events and large gatherings and stuff

[callmedecember 2,319]

Today the cases spiked and people began buying the entire supermarket

 

same here, people really think we're heading towards an apocalypse or something

[Barry 5,932]

I don't understand the panic buying either, either you are going to die from it or you are going to not get it and be fine or get it and be fine, so you don't need any more stuff than you normally do.