Minor General Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

[Embach 45,093]

does lana still have 'chateau marmont' tattoo on her left and 'nabokov whitman' on her right arm?

[Rorman Nockwell 56,966]

Which album does she consider LDR1? Is it AKA? Didn't she say smthn about this awhile ago? Does anyone remember?

The confusion lies in whether or not she counts AKA as LDR1 or counts Paradise as an album

So is it:

1. AKA, 2. BTD/Paradise, 3. UV, 4. HM, 5. LFL, 6. NFR, 7. COCC, 8. BB, 9. DYKTUOB

or

1. BTD (), 2. Paradise, 3. UV, etc

I am doing an art project and it's kinda important. I know we all have our onions (most agree with the first list) but I remember she basically confirmed one way or the other awhile ago, but I don't remember what she said

[longtimeman 9,011]

3 minutes ago, Rorman Nockwell said:

Which album does she consider LDR1? Is it AKA? Didn't she say smthn about this awhile ago? Does anyone remember?

The confusion lies in whether or not she counts AKA as LDR1 or counts Paradise as LDR3

So is it:

1. AKA, 2. BTD/Paradise, 3. UV, 4. HM, 5. LFL, 6. NFR, 7. COCC, 8. BB, 9. DYKTUOB

or

1. BTD (), 2. Paradise, 3. UV, etc

I am doing an art project and it's kinda important. I know we all have our onions (most agree with the first list) but I remember she basically confirmed one way or the other awhile ago, but I don't remember what she said

I don't think she's clarified directly, but she started talking about it being 14 years since she made her first album (that's 14 in Lana years, which means 13-15 years ago), as well as that Paradise has always been a companion to BTD. I've always wanted to consider Paradise an album, because it has the same number of songs and length as a big percentage of classic rock albums, but it never has been considered that, as far as I know.

[Rorman Nockwell 56,966]

1 minute ago, longtimeman said:

I don't think she's clarified directly, but she started talking about it being 14 years since she made her first album (that's 14 in Lana years, which means 13-15 years ago), as well as that Paradise has always been a companion to BTD. I've always wanted to consider Paradise an album, because it has the same number of songs and length as a big percentage of classic rock albums, but it never has been considered that, as far as I know.

Oh yeahhhh I remember now. So she really didn't clear anything up huh

I agree with you about Paradise but you're right - from her perspective, I don't think she sees it as a separate body of work.

Thanks for your reply

[Elle 122,856]

6 hours ago, Embach said:

does lana still have 'chateau marmont' tattoo on her left and 'nabokov whitman' on her right arm?

Yep! Here’s a picture I took of her arm when I gave her the charm bracelet I made in September and you can see the Chateau Marmont tat -

 

You can also see them both faintly in this shot from the SKIMS shoot -

[Embach 45,093]

5 hours ago, Elle said:

Yep! Here’s a picture I took of her arm when I gave her the charm bracelet I made in September and you can see the Chateau Marmont tat -

 

You can also see them both faintly in this shot from the SKIMS shoot -

Omg how cool, these are probably my favorite tattoos of hers with the collar bone tattoos!

[jellyfish 671]

Does anyone know from where she got that intro (the first 4-5 seconds) in the Paradise (2011) unreleased song?

 

 

[Rorman Nockwell 56,966]

On 1/31/2024 at 11:34 AM, Elle said:

Yep! Here’s a picture I took of her arm when I gave her the charm bracelet I made in September and you can see the Chateau Marmont tat -

 

You can also see them both faintly in this shot from the SKIMS shoot -

@Elle did you give her the VB bracelet too or did she already have

[Brooklyn Fetus 3,715]

does anyone knows what interview lana said her label made her cut a lot of west coast scenes?

[Elle 122,856]

2 minutes ago, Rorman Nockwell said:

@Elle did you give her the VB bracelet too or did she already have

My friend Sabrina made & gave her that one! We both had made bracelets to give to her at the show the next day, but we carried them around with us the day before just in case.. and thank god we did! Xx

[Raise Me Up 2,403]

Did Velvet Crowbar and Tired Of Singing The Blues was recorded in same session ??

[Waimea Bay 9,852]

Did we ever get the Pre Btd Be my Daddy demo where she skins like mumbling in the beginning and she's singing fast yk what i mean

[Waimea Bay 9,852]

9 minutes ago, ComebacktoCalifornia said:

Did we ever get the Pre Btd Be my Daddy demo where she skins like mumbling in the beginning and she's singing fast yk what i mean

Think it was like daddy's girl vocal take or smth

[Rorman Nockwell 56,966]

Does anyone know where those photos of Lizzy with that plastic fish tank are on here

I looked through the entire > 2010 album and couldn't find

[Dark Angel 203,535]

8 hours ago, Rorman Nockwell said:

Does anyone know where those photos of Lizzy with that plastic fish tank are on here

I looked through the entire > 2010 album and couldn't find

 

you motivated me

 

 

[Waimea Bay 9,852]

Anyone have the  og picture of the target exclusive ocean blvd cover with the text removed

[Daytona Beach Sparkler 5,463]

What are ACTUAL BTD outtakes? Some ppl claim that certain songs are BTD outtakes when they're actually not and it confuses me 

[lanaismamom 11,553]

2 minutes ago, Daytona Beach Sparkler said:

What are ACTUAL BTD outtakes? Some ppl claim that certain songs are BTD outtakes when they're actually not and it confuses me 

not clear topic but my thoughts on the topic

Spoiler

we dont know which version of put the radio on was going to appear on it, we have only one confirmed early tracklist that contained outtakes and this is how it looked like

1. Video Games

2. Blue Jeans

3. Born to Die

4. Put the Radio On

5. Million Dollar Man

6. Diet Mountain Dew

7. Summertime Sadness

8. Carmen

9. Off to the Races

10. This Is What Makes Us Girls

11. Lolita

12. National Anthem

Deluxe Version

13. Without You

14. Dark Paradise

15. Hundred Dollar Bill (Emile Haynie Version)

and well we have yet another confirmation that Queen of Disaster was going to open BTD at one point, but we dont know that tracklist iteration, that makes 3 safe options for outtakes (and also, the leaked version of queen of disaster is final and the same one that were supposed for that unknown iteration (all we know is that queen of disaster was the track 1, and born to die was the track 2), at least final version from chris braide)
a reach would be to assume Kinda Outta Luck and You Can Be the Boss were also reworked because she performed them later on in 2011, and she expressed her desire to release kinda outta luck alongside diet mountain dew, but her label didnt let her (alhough reworked version of diet mountain dew later appeared on official tracklist)

the other 4 tracks tagged as b-sides - on our way, velvet crowbar, marilyn monroe and tv in black & white can be considered outtakes for this album, BUT im mostly sure they were tagged so because maybe she was wanted emile haynie to rework them, because the 5th track, that contained the same tag was summertime sadness demo, that was later reworked and released officially (minding that the track was initially going to be a deluxe track), but in the end she never reworked them (at least for what we know as for now), so they cant be really considered outtakes for the album we've got, but if you count them (that will not be a mistake), we have these tracks

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White

then, we have those 3 tracks, serial killer, us against the world and paradise performed live, i want to say she really liked us against the world due to it being downloaded at some time alongside other songs like carmen diet mountain dew off to the races etc, and plus she mentioned it in 2017, but i dont think it was ever in consideration for a rework for any project atfter 2010, and out of the three, i would consider serila killer to be included on btd too, i feel it had always belonged to this album and the sound that emile haynie did for it

the thing about the first album (that will later become btd) is that it had entirely different sound until she didnt meet emile haynie in march 2011, and she herself once said, this album has always been more of a mixtape type thing, and songs were being tied purely based on vibe and themes, its like most of her 2010 stuff had that gansgter wildwestern thing to it, songs like velvet crowbar, kinda outta luck, you can be the boss, driving in cars with boys, live or die, she's not me, off to the races OG  version, hey lolita hey, i want it all and similar, they could easily be tied within one project, and i think this was the sound she stuck around for up until she didnt meet emile haynie, and after that, i think she finally found the vision for BTD and reworked the album with him (tho in one interview from recent times she mentioned she didnt really want him to be a main producer afaik?) and from that point it had that classic sound to it, but what was befor that, was, maybe, approximately, the same pool of songs (national anthem, off to the races, diet mountain dew and the rest), but tied with another theme and sound, and dulled with more outtakes (we know there are many working titles of this album (G.B.A, The Best of Lana Del Rey, The Revenge of Lana Del Rey, The World is Ours, Do U Luv Me Yet?), and i believe one of them is definitely from these pre-emile haynie times), and we as well have the imagination of how this album looked like, because we have this sampler that was sent to the guardian, and i think these songs were in consideration for a pre-emile haynie iteraion of an album, this is the sampler from may 2011
 

National Anthem (Nexus/Justin Parker; Demo 1)

Born to Die (Emile Haynie; Demo 2)

Live or Die (Jaz Rogers)

Hey Lolita Hey (Liam Howe; Demo 1)

Million Dollar Man (Chris Braide; Demo)

Video Games (Justin Parker/Robopop; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)

Paris (Guy Chambers/Liam Howe)

Puppy Love (Justin Parker)

Driving in Cars With Boys (Nexus; 2011 Version)

This is What Makes Us Girls (Tim Larcombe; Demo 1)

Hundred Dollar Bill (Jayson Michael)

Are You Ready? (Eg White)

Diet Mountain Dew (Alexis Smith/Crispin Hunt/Mike Daly; Demo 3)

You Can Be The Boss (Alexis Smith)

Kinda Outta Luck (Alexis Smith)

Carmen (Justin Parker; Demo)

Put the Radio On (Biff Stannard)

Blue Jeans (Emile Haynie; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)

it contains already some demo recordings from emile haynie, but despite done by him, the sound different from the final album, and all the other songs that were sent, are still demo recordings from 2009-2010 times, that had that gangster sound (but paris and oooh baby has always been too random for this sampler for me😭), u can see it has songs that were later reworked by emile, but some werent, that makes it clear that this album was always about vibes mainly, but outtakes from sampler cant be considered as outtakes for btd final because it was still being differnet project in sound, but u can count them too as potential tracks that were going to be reworked by emile, since some of them survived all these constant changes in 2010

and i believe the born to die as we know it now started appearing in summer-early fall 2011, after her sessions with rick and after radio happened (because she recorded it tight after video games started playing on the radio), where she had a clear vision of sound and concept, she started combining songs this way, but even then, the most interesting thing is that hundred dollar bill stayed on the album as long as december 2011, so we almost got the song, so basically who knows how exactly the timeline of becoming born to die as we know it now was going, it even doesnt need a special kind of a discussion of its timeline, basically all we need are drafts for this album to see what vision she had for the album at what time, but if you would want to narrow it down to one particular number, my list for what i call a strong btd outtake without timeline, just songs that were in consideration for any of its draft at any point, would be:

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White
10. Serial Killer
11. Paradise
12. Us Against the World

13. Live or Die
14. Paris
15. Are You ready?
16. Last Girl on Earth
17. Hollywood's Dead
18. American Dream (Damn You)
19. What's a Girl to Do
20. Because of You
21. French Restaurant

 

[Daytona Beach Sparkler 5,463]

1 hour ago, lanaismamom said:

not clear topic but my thoughts on the topic

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we dont know which version of put the radio on was going to appear on it, we have only one confirmed early tracklist that contained outtakes and this is how it looked like

1. Video Games

2. Blue Jeans

3. Born to Die

4. Put the Radio On

5. Million Dollar Man

6. Diet Mountain Dew

7. Summertime Sadness

8. Carmen

9. Off to the Races

10. This Is What Makes Us Girls

11. Lolita

12. National Anthem

Deluxe Version

13. Without You

14. Dark Paradise

15. Hundred Dollar Bill (Emile Haynie Version)

and well we have yet another confirmation that Queen of Disaster was going to open BTD at one point, but we dont know that tracklist iteration, that makes 3 safe options for outtakes (and also, the leaked version of queen of disaster is final and the same one that were supposed for that unknown iteration (all we know is that queen of disaster was the track 1, and born to die was the track 2), at least final version from chris braide)
a reach would be to assume Kinda Outta Luck and You Can Be the Boss were also reworked because she performed them later on in 2011, and she expressed her desire to release kinda outta luck alongside diet mountain dew, but her label didnt let her (alhough reworked version of diet mountain dew later appeared on official tracklist)

the other 4 tracks tagged as b-sides - on our way, velvet crowbar, marilyn monroe and tv in black & white can be considered outtakes for this album, BUT im mostly sure they were tagged so because maybe she was wanted emile haynie to rework them, because the 5th track, that contained the same tag was summertime sadness demo, that was later reworked and released officially (minding that the track was initially going to be a deluxe track), but in the end she never reworked them (at least for what we know as for now), so they cant be really considered outtakes for the album we've got, but if you count them (that will not be a mistake), we have these tracks

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White

then, we have those 3 tracks, serial killer, us against the world and paradise performed live, i want to say she really liked us against the world due to it being downloaded at some time alongside other songs like carmen diet mountain dew off to the races etc, and plus she mentioned it in 2017, but i dont think it was ever in consideration for a rework for any project atfter 2010, and out of the three, i would consider serila killer to be included on btd too, i feel it had always belonged to this album and the sound that emile haynie did for it

the thing about the first album (that will later become btd) is that it had entirely different sound until she didnt meet emile haynie in march 2011, and she herself once said, this album has always been more of a mixtape type thing, and songs were being tied purely based on vibe and themes, its like most of her 2010 stuff had that gansgter wildwestern thing to it, songs like velvet crowbar, kinda outta luck, you can be the boss, driving in cars with boys, live or die, she's not me, off to the races OG  version, hey lolita hey, i want it all and similar, they could easily be tied within one project, and i think this was the sound she stuck around for up until she didnt meet emile haynie, and after that, i think she finally found the vision for BTD and reworked the album with him (tho in one interview from recent times she mentioned she didnt really want him to be a main producer afaik?) and from that point it had that classic sound to it, but what was befor that, was, maybe, approximately, the same pool of songs (national anthem, off to the races, diet mountain dew and the rest), but tied with another theme and sound, and dulled with more outtakes (we know there are many working titles of this album (G.B.A, The Best of Lana Del Rey, The Revenge of Lana Del Rey, The World is Ours, Do U Luv Me Yet?), and i believe one of them is definitely from these pre-emile haynie times), and we as well have the imagination of how this album looked like, because we have this sampler that was sent to the guardian, and i think these songs were in consideration for a pre-emile haynie iteraion of an album, this is the sampler from may 2011
 

National Anthem (Nexus/Justin Parker; Demo 1)

Born to Die (Emile Haynie; Demo 2)

Live or Die (Jaz Rogers)

Hey Lolita Hey (Liam Howe; Demo 1)

Million Dollar Man (Chris Braide; Demo)

Video Games (Justin Parker/Robopop; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)

Paris (Guy Chambers/Liam Howe)

Puppy Love (Justin Parker)

Driving in Cars With Boys (Nexus; 2011 Version)

This is What Makes Us Girls (Tim Larcombe; Demo 1)

Hundred Dollar Bill (Jayson Michael)

Are You Ready? (Eg White)

Diet Mountain Dew (Alexis Smith/Crispin Hunt/Mike Daly; Demo 3)

You Can Be The Boss (Alexis Smith)

Kinda Outta Luck (Alexis Smith)

Carmen (Justin Parker; Demo)

Put the Radio On (Biff Stannard)

Blue Jeans (Emile Haynie; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)

it contains already some demo recordings from emile haynie, but despite done by him, the sound different from the final album, and all the other songs that were sent, are still demo recordings from 2009-2010 times, that had that gangster sound (but paris and oooh baby has always been too random for this sampler for me😭), u can see it has songs that were later reworked by emile, but some werent, that makes it clear that this album was always about vibes mainly, but outtakes from sampler cant be considered as outtakes for btd final because it was still being differnet project in sound, but u can count them too as potential tracks that were going to be reworked by emile, since some of them survived all these constant changes in 2010

and i believe the born to die as we know it now started appearing in summer-early fall 2011, after her sessions with rick and after radio happened (because she recorded it tight after video games started playing on the radio), where she had a clear vision of sound and concept, she started combining songs this way, but even then, the most interesting thing is that hundred dollar bill stayed on the album as long as december 2011, so we almost got the song, so basically who knows how exactly the timeline of becoming born to die as we know it now was going, it even doesnt need a special kind of a discussion of its timeline, basically all we need are drafts for this album to see what vision she had for the album at what time, but if you would want to narrow it down to one particular number, my list for what i call a strong btd outtake without timeline, just songs that were in consideration for any of its draft at any point, would be:

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White
10. Serial Killer
11. Paradise
12. Us Against the World

13. Live or Die
14. Paris
15. Are You ready?
16. Last Girl on Earth
17. Hollywood's Dead
18. American Dream (Damn You)
19. What's a Girl to Do
20. Because of You
21. French Restaurant

 

Ty 

[Daytona Beach Sparkler 5,463]

What video editing program did Lana use to make her 2007-2012

homemade MVs?