Strangelove Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 4:41 AM, lanaismamom said: its not gaslight its just the chain of a common sense facts dont put venice bitch demo into this discussion this kind of stuff she would do once in a lifetime, that was an exclusive thing and doesn’t matter there a chance in future of her reusing CONCEPT DEMO of a RELEASED SONGS Yes this is why im kinda trolling because i dont see this to happen in a life time sorry this is Just the peak of delusions Expand The only real delusion is the idea we know exactly what Lana's intentions are and we as fans know if something is scrapped or not. And yes Venice Bitch demo fits perfectly into the discussion because she clearly ended up releasing something you and Candy Necklace would say is scrapped and worth leaking because it will never get released. Again... LANA might find the song meaningful, what fans think means nothing. On 6/24/2023 at 4:40 AM, Summertime Saddest said: what do you not get, malibu was reworked into get free whats not clicking Expand Hello please see my previous texts. 1 Quote
Lanaparadiserey Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 We must come together as a group and celebrate because WE ARE THE THE WORLD LANABOARDS 5 Quote
Strangelove Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 4:47 AM, Lanaparadiserey said: We must come together as a group and celebrate because WE ARE THE THE WORLD LANABOARDS Expand No beef or hate. I think lanaismamom and Candy Necklace are cool users. Hugs and kisses. Amen. 3 Quote
Lanaparadiserey Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 4:51 AM, Dior said: No beef or hate. I think lanaismamom and Candy Necklace are cool users. Hugs and kisses. Amen. Expand SEE WE ARE COMING TOGETHER #LEAKMALIBUFORWORLDPEACE 0 Quote
SoftwareUpgrade Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 4:45 AM, Dior said: The only real delusion is the idea we know exactly what Lana's intentions are and we as fans know if something is scrapped or not. Expand So by that logic, can I argue that you can't truly read into her statement of "too personal 5 me" correctly . Reveal hidden contents Jokes aside, I think I know what you're getting at. it's just that Lipsters are always curious to hear the scraps, demos, etc Even if it doesn't leak, there's always a hype around the discussion 3 Quote I'm Poppy
lanaismamom Posted June 24, 2023 Author Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 12:32 AM, Wait For Life said: BTW Malibu is not deleted and people have it Expand what about i talk to jesus DA version 1 Quote
LBcita Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 A lot of this thread is speculation or people misremembering certain quotes so here’s a little timeline of things we know (mostly) for certain - fill it in w dates verified by reliable people or insiders lol September 2015 - Lust for Life began the day she put out Honeymoon - Lana, KROQ Interview, 2017 "Work on the new album began in 2015, immediately after the completion of Honeymoon" - Kieron Menzies and Dean Reid interview, Sound on Sound Lust for Life was the first song on the record per LDR to Courtney Love for Dazed May/June/July/August (?) 2016 - 13 beaches experience June 2016 - Love is finished enough to film a video ??? November 2016 - trump election GBA WWAWWKD - was written to women who might feel unsafe walking home like she felt "less safe" after the Trump election January 2017 - women's marches, which GBA was written before February 17, 2017 - Love posters, Love leak February 18, 2017 - Love released early due to leak March 2017 - Roses bloom for you written per first LDR IG post about it “this was a special one I wrote in March called 'Roses bloom for you’.” April 17, 2017 - the Weekend after North Korea and Coachella that Lana wrote (and presumably recorded and produced) Coachella Woodstock In My Mind Around this time Change was also presumably recorded given Lana's saying the lyrics “could be about North Korea” April 22, 2017 - roughly around the time the album would be sent to printing presses for physical releases Around this time Lana said the track listing changed a lot in "the last 3 months [before July 1st, 2017]" Around this time - Yosemite is still on the tracklist according to Lana to Stevie Nicks during their V mag interview, it’s also played or sang for the interviewer for Elle Mag May 11, 2017 - "Go fuck yourself" DM to Spin magazine lmao May 13, 2017 - Coachella announced for release 4 days later July 1st 2017 "final final mix was like not that long ago cause it changed right before we started printing it to vinyl - actually it changed a lot the mix" July 21st, 2017 - release day Rough recording order - September 2015 Lust for Life - first version Love Groupie Love (with original Rocky verse) ??? Summer 2016 13 beaches (experience that inspired the song happened then, presumably written and recorded around the time) June 2016 Love video shoot ??? November 2016 (probably but this is a guess) God Bless America WWAWWKD ??? Tomorrow Never Came (Lana had done the male features before asking Stevie so if the below guess is right it was done at some point before Dec 2016) December 2016 (complete guess) BPBP - Steve was in New York during this time on tour (Toronto 11/29/16, NYC show 12/1/16) and she did her part for BPBP first with Rick at Electric Lady, so could have been then Stevie had a break from tour from December 18, 2016 - February 23, 2017 so if not when she was in New York I'd assume around this time but as I said complete guess, though it does align with Stevie being approached "late in the recording process" as per LDR to KROQ ??? January 2017 ??? March 2017 Cherry and White Mustang (?) - "at the end of the record" LDR to Zane Lowe Roses bloom for you (btw she never said this was going to be a shortened intro? Not sure where people got that) Summer Bummer (?) April 2017 Coachella - Woodstock in My Mind Change ------- Bartender January 2018 Happiness (?) Hope Love song Norman demo - hey, I heard you left town... Love - “We knew for a long time that ‘Love’ would the opening track, and ‘Lust For Life’ would be track two, and the picture of the new album emerged as we got more songs.” - Rick Lust for Life - “So basically, ‘Lust for Life’ was the first song I wrote for the record, but it was kind of a Rubik’s Cube. I felt like it was a big song but... it wasn’t right. I don’t usually go back and re-edit things that much, because the songs end up sort of being what they are, but this one song I kept going back to. I really liked the title. I liked the verse. John Janick was like, ‘Why don’t we just go over and see what Max Martin thinks?’ So, I flew to Sweden and showed him the song. He said that he felt really strongly that the best part was the verse and that he wanted to hear it more than once, so I should think about making it the chorus. So I went back to Rick Nowels’ place the next day and I was like, ‘Let’s try and make the verse the chorus,’ and we did, and it sounded perfect. That’s when I felt like I really wanted to hear Abel sing the chorus, so he came down and rewrote a little bit of it. But then I was feeling like it was missing a little bit of the Shangri-Las element, so I went back for a fourth time and layered it up with harmonies. Now I’m finally happy with it.” Summer Bummer - whoever said that thing about Rick being less involved was right “I wasn’t really involved with “Summer Bummer.” Lana went in the studio with Boi-1da and wrote that one. It’s a great addition to the album. I asked Zac Rae, who is a brilliant keyboard player and musical mind, to do some overdubs on it. We spent a few days with Boi-1da and T-Minus working on it together. I believe Rocky and Playboi Carti recorded their parts with Hector Delgado. That was one of the last songs written for the album.” - Rick Nowels Groupie Love - Lana had 4 tracks she wanted to play for Rocky, played them for his producer Hector, who said he thought Rocky would like Groupie Love. Played it for Rocky who loved it, then came down and did a verse. A couple months later he did a different verse. Then they changed the production a little bit for it to become "as you hear it now". "I was actually kind of nervous but that's one of the ones [Groupie Love] I felt changed last minute for the better" ““Groupie Love” was one of the early songs we wrote for the album. Lana had the idea to bring in A$AP Rocky. He’s a great guy; very smart and creative. His producer Hector Delgado came in too and did the beats on the song and co-produced it with us. It was a lot of fun being in the studio with them. They are super creative souls. - Rick Nowels Coachella - “And then “Coachella—Woodstock in My Mind” I wrote on my way home from Coachella when things were getting hostile between North Korea and the U.S., and all those failed missile launches, which happened the day after the first night of the festival.” - LDR 6 Quote
lanaismamom Posted June 24, 2023 Author Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:15 AM, LBcita said: A lot of this thread is speculation or people misremembering certain quotes so here’s a little timeline of things we know (mostly) for certain - fill it in w dates verified by reliable people or insiders lol September 2015 - Lust for Life began the day she put out Honeymoon - Lana, KROQ Interview, 2017 "Work on the new album began in 2015, immediately after the completion of Honeymoon" - Kieron Menzies and Dean Reid interview, Sound on Sound Lust for Life was the first song on the record per LDR to Courtney Love for Dazed May/June/July/August (?) 2016 - 13 beaches experience June 2016 - Love is finished enough to film a video ??? November 2016 - trump election GBA WWAWWKD - was written to women who might feel unsafe walking home like she felt "less safe" after the Trump election January 2017 - women's marches, which GBA was written before February 17, 2017 - Love posters, Love leak February 18, 2017 - Love released early due to leak March 2017 - Roses bloom for you written per first LDR IG post about it “this was a special one I wrote in March called 'Roses bloom for you’.” April 17, 2017 - the Weekend after North Korea and Coachella that Lana wrote (and presumably recorded and produced) Coachella Woodstock In My Mind Around this time Change was also presumably recorded given Lana's saying the lyrics “could be about North Korea” April 22, 2017 - roughly around the time the album would be sent to printing presses for physical releases Around this time Lana said the track listing changed a lot in "the last 3 months [before July 1st, 2017]" Around this time - Yosemite is still on the tracklist according to Lana to Stevie Nicks during their V mag interview, it’s also played or sang for the interviewer for Elle Mag May 13, 2017 - Coachella announced for release 4 days later July 1st 2017 "final final mix was like not that long ago cause it changed right before we started printing it to vinyl - actually it changed a lot the mix" July 21st, 2017 - release day Rough recording order - September 2015 Lust for Life - first version Love Groupie Love (with original Rocky verse) ??? Summer 2016 13 beaches (experience that inspired the song happened then, presumably written and recorded around the time) June 2016 Love video shoot ??? November 2016 (probably but this is a guess) God Bless America WWAWWKD ??? December 2016 (complete guess) BPBP - Steve was in New York during this time on tour and she did her part for BPBP first with Rick at Electric Lady, so could have been then ??? January 2017 ??? March 2017 Roses bloom for you (btw she never said this was going to be a shortened intro? Not sure where people got that) Summer Bummer (?) April 2017 Coachella - Woodstock in My Mind Change Love - “We knew for a long time that ‘Love’ would the opening track, and ‘Lust For Life’ would be track two, and the picture of the new album emerged as we got more songs.” - Rick Lust for Life - “So basically, ‘Lust for Life’ was the first song I wrote for the record, but it was kind of a Rubik’s Cube. I felt like it was a big song but... it wasn’t right. I don’t usually go back and re-edit things that much, because the songs end up sort of being what they are, but this one song I kept going back to. I really liked the title. I liked the verse. John Janick was like, ‘Why don’t we just go over and see what Max Martin thinks?’ So, I flew to Sweden and showed him the song. He said that he felt really strongly that the best part was the verse and that he wanted to hear it more than once, so I should think about making it the chorus. So I went back to Rick Nowels’ place the next day and I was like, ‘Let’s try and make the verse the chorus,’ and we did, and it sounded perfect. That’s when I felt like I really wanted to hear Abel sing the chorus, so he came down and rewrote a little bit of it. But then I was feeling like it was missing a little bit of the Shangri-Las element, so I went back for a fourth time and layered it up with harmonies. Now I’m finally happy with it.” Summer Bummer - whoever said that thing about Rick being less involved was right “I wasn’t really involved with “Summer Bummer.” Lana went in the studio with Boi-1da and wrote that one. It’s a great addition to the album. I asked Zac Rae, who is a brilliant keyboard player and musical mind, to do some overdubs on it. We spent a few days with Boi-1da and T-Minus working on it together. I believe Rocky and Playboi Carti recorded their parts with Hector Delgado. That was one of the last songs written for the album.” - Rick Nowels Groupie Love - Lana had 4 tracks she wanted to play for Rocky, played them for his producer Hector, who said he thought Rocky would like Groupie Love. Played it for Rocky who loved it, then came down and did a verse. A couple months later he did a different verse. Then they changed the production a little bit for it to become "as you hear it now". "I was actually kind of nervous but that's one of the ones [Groupie Love] I felt changed last minute for the better" ““Groupie Love” was one of the early songs we wrote for the album. Lana had the idea to bring in A$AP Rocky. He’s a great guy; very smart and creative. His producer Hector Delgado came in too and did the beats on the song and co-produced it with us. It was a lot of fun being in the studio with them. They are super creative souls. - Rick Nowels Coachella - “And then “Coachella—Woodstock in My Mind” I wrote on my way home from Coachella when things were getting hostile between North Korea and the U.S., and all those failed missile launches, which happened the day after the first night of the festival.” - LDR Expand yeah literally the same people wrote in here and what is wrote in OP except u made mistakes in these as far as we know the earliest date for love was from april 2016 and im quite sure not earlier than 2016 overall change was done on june 8 and not earlier that date, the next day the record got sent to the label and tracklist change happened between may 26-june 8, when she axed best american record, yosemite and one unknown song and added change we really dont have when stevie nicks and sean lennon joined the record but id assume it was after february 2017 0 Quote
LBcita Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) On 6/24/2023 at 6:44 AM, lanaismamom said: yeah literally the same people wrote in here and what is wrote in OP except u made mistakes in these as far as we know the earliest date for love was from april 2016 and im fairly sure not earlier than 2016 overall change was done on june 8 and not earlier that date, the next day the record got sent to the label and tracklist change happened between may 26-june 8, when she axed best american record, yosemite and one unknown song and added change we really dont have when stevie nicks and sean lennon joined the record but id assume it was after february 2017 Expand except there's no possible way Change was recorded on June 8th because it takes 90 days to print to physical versions dumbass - that's just the day she uploaded snippet of the recording to instagram it's also not that likely that Stevie Nicks recorded in New York AND then LA between February and April 2017 because she was in Reno - Feb 23 Salt Lake City - Feb 25 San Diego - March 2 Tulsa - March 6 Memphis - March 8 Louisiana - March 10 Austin - March 12 New Orleans - March 15 and I don't feel like listing the rest but literally doing a show every other day until April 6th lastly if Love was one of the earliest songs on the record and recorded after Lust for Life then it came between September 2015 and June 2016 which is what I wrote? and again, the tracklist was not changed past the end of April, because you could buy the album in stores on CDs July 21st this is consistent with the timeline I provided and the interviews she was giving around April being the last times she mentioned Yosemite as still being on the record (V mag and Elle...like I fucking said :-)))) how about you learn to fucking read, then you won't sound so stupid fuckface - also literally not the same bc half of what was written earlier was either made up or a clear misremembering of what people actually said which is why i...corrected it and for the likely guesses I said they were...guesses lust for life stan no.1 my ass lmao shut the fuck up?? my gosh you became a stan in 2018...I was there when she was doing ig lives and posting lil vids from the recording process and following along w the interviews as they got released maybe sit this one out Mod note: User was warned for this post. Edited June 24, 2023 by That Venice Bitch 1 Quote
Strangelove Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 4:52 AM, Lanaparadiserey said: Expand Interesting there's a version of the title track where the chorus is the verse. Not a surprise the earlier songs of the album were the better ones. 0 Quote
lanaismamom Posted June 24, 2023 Author Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:53 AM, LBcita said: except there's no possible way Change was recorded on June 8th because it takes 90 days to print to physical versions dumbass - that's just the day she uploaded snippet of the recording to instagram it's also not that likely that Stevie Nicks recorded in New York AND then LA between February and April 2017 because she was in Reno - Feb 23 Salt Lake City - Feb 25 San Diego - March 2 Tulsa - March 6 Memphis - March 8 Louisiana - March 10 Austin - March 12 New Orleans - March 15 and I don't feel like listing the rest but literally doing a show every other day until April 6th lastly if Love was one of the earliest songs on the record and recorded after Lust for Life then it came between September 2015 and June 2016 which is what I wrote? and again, the tracklist was not changed past the end of April, because you could buy the album in stores on CDs July 21st this is consistent with the timeline I provided and the interviews she was giving around April being the last times she mentioned Yosemite as still being on the record (V mag and Elle...like I fucking said :-)))) how about you learn to fucking read, then you won't sound so stupid fuckface - also literally not the same bc half of what was written earlier was either made up or a clear misremembering of what people actually said which is why i...corrected it and for the likely guesses I said they were...guesses lust for life stan no.1 my ass lmao shut the fuck up?? my gosh you became a stan in 2018...I was there when she was doing ig lives and posting lil vids from the recording process and following along w the interviews as they got released maybe sit this one out Expand ew u are so wrong and loud and not really welcome here with ur spreading missinformation why did u need to say everything that already was on this page and interpret that in a wrong way 1 Quote
fl0r1dakil0s Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:53 AM, LBcita said: except there's no possible way Change was recorded on June 8th because it takes 90 days to print to physical versions dumbass - that's just the day she uploaded snippet of the recording to instagram it's also not that likely that Stevie Nicks recorded in New York AND then LA between February and April 2017 because she was in Reno - Feb 23 Salt Lake City - Feb 25 San Diego - March 2 Tulsa - March 6 Memphis - March 8 Louisiana - March 10 Austin - March 12 New Orleans - March 15 and I don't feel like listing the rest but literally doing a show every other day until April 6th lastly if Love was one of the earliest songs on the record and recorded after Lust for Life then it came between September 2015 and June 2016 which is what I wrote? and again, the tracklist was not changed past the end of April, because you could buy the album in stores on CDs July 21st this is consistent with the timeline I provided and the interviews she was giving around April being the last times she mentioned Yosemite as still being on the record (V mag and Elle...like I fucking said :-)))) how about you learn to fucking read, then you won't sound so stupid fuckface - also literally not the same bc half of what was written earlier was either made up or a clear misremembering of what people actually said which is why i...corrected it and for the likely guesses I said they were...guesses lust for life stan no.1 my ass lmao shut the fuck up?? my gosh you became a stan in 2018...I was there when she was doing ig lives and posting lil vids from the recording process and following along w the interviews as they got released maybe sit this one out Mod note: User was warned for this post. Expand PLEASE Slay ig 1 Quote
That Venice Bitch Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:53 AM, LBcita said: it takes 90 days to print to physical versions dumbass how about you learn to fucking read, then you won't sound so stupid fuckface lust for life stan no.1 my ass lmao shut the fuck up?? my gosh you became a stan in 2018...I was there when she was doing ig lives and posting lil vids from the recording process and following along w the interviews as they got released maybe sit this one out Expand 7 Quote .・゜゜・ ⋆·˚ ༘ * GIVE PEACE A CHANCE ˚ ༘ ⋆｡˚ ・゜゜・．
fl0r1dakil0s Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 7:02 AM, Dior said: Interesting there's a version of the title track where the chorus is the verse Expand It's thanks to Max Martin who suggested the take off all ur clothes could be a catchy chorus.. the original version with the verse being take off all ur clothes is the original Rick version 1 Quote
Strangelove Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:53 AM, LBcita said: except there's no possible way Change was recorded on June 8th because it takes 90 days to print to physical versions dumbass - that's just the day she uploaded snippet of the recording to instagram it's also not that likely that Stevie Nicks recorded in New York AND then LA between February and April 2017 because she was in Reno - Feb 23 Salt Lake City - Feb 25 San Diego - March 2 Tulsa - March 6 Memphis - March 8 Louisiana - March 10 Austin - March 12 New Orleans - March 15 and I don't feel like listing the rest but literally doing a show every other day until April 6th lastly if Love was one of the earliest songs on the record and recorded after Lust for Life then it came between September 2015 and June 2016 which is what I wrote? and again, the tracklist was not changed past the end of April, because you could buy the album in stores on CDs July 21st this is consistent with the timeline I provided and the interviews she was giving around April being the last times she mentioned Yosemite as still being on the record (V mag and Elle...like I fucking said :-)))) how about you learn to fucking read, then you won't sound so stupid fuckface - also literally not the same bc half of what was written earlier was either made up or a clear misremembering of what people actually said which is why i...corrected it and for the likely guesses I said they were...guesses lust for life stan no.1 my ass lmao shut the fuck up?? my gosh you became a stan in 2018...I was there when she was doing ig lives and posting lil vids from the recording process and following along w the interviews as they got released maybe sit this one out Mod note: User was warned for this post. Expand Girl you need to chill out! Nobody is giving you a medal for getting the timeline right. Just make your post and let the users decide for themselves. On 6/24/2023 at 7:30 AM, fl0r1dakil0s said: It's thanks to Max Martin who suggested the take off all ur clothes could be a catchy chorus.. the original version with the verse being take off all ur clothes is the original Rick version Expand Hi, can you link me to that version, thanks. 1 Quote
Rust Dress Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:53 AM, LBcita said: how about you learn to fucking read, then you won't sound so stupid fuckface - also literally not the same bc half of what was written earlier was either made up or a clear misremembering of what people actually said which is why i...corrected it and for the likely guesses I said they were...guesses lust for life stan no.1 my ass lmao shut the fuck up?? my gosh you became a stan in 2018...I was there when she was doing ig lives and posting lil vids from the recording process and following along w the interviews as they got released maybe sit this one out Expand i- did you not have any second thoughts when hitting “submit reply” 0 Quote
LBcita Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 7:31 AM, Dior said: Girl you need to chill out! Nobody is giving you a medal for getting the timeline right. Just make your post and let the users decide for themselves. Hi, can you link me to that version, thanks. Expand I don't know if this is day 1 OG but it's close to that version at least 1 Quote
LBcita Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 7:37 AM, cinnamongirI said: i- did you not have any second thoughts when hitting “submit reply” Expand I had thoughts back to buying the album on July 21st and then Lana talking about her annoyance with the time it takes to print to vinyl and then the difference in streaming fuck it I love you and the vinyl I got...then I hit send 0 Quote
blackenedrussianpoetry Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 6:53 AM, LBcita said: except there's no possible way Change was recorded on June 8th because it takes 90 days to print to physical versions dumbass - that's just the day she uploaded snippet of the recording to instagram Expand Hence why the vinyl to Lust for Life had only arrived earliest September 29, 2017 when the record itself has been released 2 months before digitally… because of the final changing/mixes of the later songs and recording change that the vinyl came out very late 1 Quote
lizzyology Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 7:27 AM, That Venice Bitch said: Expand My god @That Venice Bitch, that one comment you replied to was worse compared to peaceful disagreements on last several pages of this thread ??? 3 Quote
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