Minor General Questions that Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

[That Venice Bitch]

9 hours ago, lanaismamom said:

there’s no way to know unless we will be getting those drafts, but for the final btd u can 100% consider hundred dollar bill emile haynie unleaked version and put the radio on (unknown version)

I was under the impression that Kahne's second version was still a demo and that Jayson Michaels' version was indeed the final

[gucciovermybody]

26 minutes ago, That Venice Bitch said:

I was under the impression that Kahne's second version was still a demo and that Jayson Michaels' version was indeed the final

kahne second version is prob a more polished version of c note, but now that u said this i thought of something: maybe kahne did 2 demos with lana and she ended up reworking one with jayson michaels

[lanaismamom]

16 minutes ago, ulttraviolenncee said:

? arent these rumoured tho, hdb and ptro emile haynie unleaked versions, and i discovered a few outtakes that were on an early tracklist and the 4 songs that were considered for a b side

hundred dollar bill isnt rumored, and we dont know which version of put the radio on was going to appear on it, we have only one confirmed early tracklist that contained outtakes and this is how it looked like

1. Video Games
2. Blue Jeans
3. Born to Die
4. Put the Radio On
5. Million Dollar Man
6. Diet Mountain Dew
7. Summertime Sadness
8. Carmen
9. Off to the Races
10. This Is What Makes Us Girls
11. Lolita
12. National Anthem

Deluxe Version

     13. Without You

     14. Dark Paradise

     15. Hundred Dollar Bill

and well we have yet another confirmation that Queen of Disaster was going to open BTD at one point, but we dont know that tracklist iteration, that makes 3 safe options for outtakes (and also, the leaked version of queen of disaster is final and the same one that were supposed for that unknown iteration (all we know is that queen of disaster was the track 1, and born to die was the track 2), at least final version from chris braide)
a reach would be to assume Kinda Outta Luck and You Can Be the Boss were also reworked because she performed them later on in 2011, and she expressed her desire to release kinda outta luck alongside diet mountain dew, but her label didnt let her (alhough reworked version of diet mountain dew later appeared on official tracklist)

the other 4 tracks tagged as b-sides - on our way, velvet crowbar, marilyn monroe and tv in black & white can be considered outtakes for this album, BUT i mostlysure they were tagged so because maybe she was wanted emile haynie to rework them, because the 5th track, that contained the same tag was summertime sadness demo, that was later reworked and released officially (midning that the track was initially going to be deluxe track), but in the end she never reworked them (at least for what we know as for now), so they cant be really considered outtale for the album we've got, but if you count them (that will not be a mistake), we have these tracks

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White

then, we have those 3 tracks, serial killer, us against the world and paradise performed live, i want to say she really liked us against the world due to it being downloaded at some time alongside other songs like carmen diet mountain dew off to the races etc, but i dont think it was ever in cosnideration for a rework for any project atfter 2010, and out of the three, i would consider serila killer to be included on btd too, i feel it had always belonged to this album and the sound that emile haynie did for it

the thing about the first album (that will later become btd) is that it had entirely different sound until she didnt meet emile haynie in march 2011, and she herself once said, this album has always been more of a mixtape type thing, and songs were being tied purely based on vibe and themes, its like most of her 2010 stuff had that gansgter wildwestern thing to it, songs like velvet crowbar, kinda outta luck, you can be the boss, driving in cars with boys, live or die, she's not me, off to the races OG  version, hey lolita hey, i want it all and similar, it could easily be tied within one project, and i think this was the sound she was stick around for up until she didnt meet emile haynie, and after that, i think she finally found the vision fot all of that and reworked the album with him (tho in one interview from recent times she mentioned she didnt really want him to be a main producer afaik?) and from that point it had that classic sound to it, but what was befor that, was, maybe, approximately, the same pool of songs (national anthem, off to the races, diet mountain dew and the rest), but tied with another theme and sound (we know there are many working titles of this album (G.B.A, The Best of Lana Del Rey, The Revenge of Lana Del Rey, The World is Ours, Do U Luv Me Yet?), and i believe one of them is definitely from these pre-emile haynie times), and we as well have the imagination of how this album looked like, because we have this sampler that was sent to the guardian, and i think these songs were in consideration for a pre-emile haynie itaraion of an album, this is the sampler from may 2011
 

1. National Anthem (Nexus/Justin Parker; Demo 1)
2. Born to Die (Emile Haynie; Demo 2)
3. Live or Die (Jaz Rogers)
4. Hey Lolita Hey (Liam Howe; Demo 1)
5. Million Dollar Man (Chris Braide; Demo)
6. Video Games (Justin Parker/Robopop; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)
7. Paris (Guy Chambers/Liam Howe)
8. Puppy Love (Justin Parker)
9. Driving in Cars With Boys (Nexus; 2011 Version)
10. This is What Makes Us Girls (Tim Larcombe; Demo 1)
11. Hundred Dollar Bill (Jayson Michael)
12. Are You Ready? (Eg White)
13. Diet Mountain Dew (Alexis Smith/Crispin Hunt/Mike Daly; Demo 3)
14. You Can Be The Boss (Alexis Smith)
15. Kinda Outta Luck (Alexis Smith)
16. Carmen (Justin Parker; Demo)
17. Put the Radio On (Biff Stannard)
18. Blue Jeans (Emile Haynie; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)

it contains already some demo recordings from emile haynie, but despite done by him, the sound different from the final album, and all the other songs that were sent, are still demo recordings from 2009-2010 times, that had that gangster sound (but paris and oooh baby has always been too random for this sampler for me?), u can see it has songs that were later reworked by emile, but some werent, that makes it clear that this album was always about vibes mainly, but outtakes from sampler cant be considered as outtakes for btd final because it was still being differnet project in sound, but u can count them too as potential tracks that were going to be reworked by emile, since some of them survived all these constant changes in 2010

and i believe the born to die as we know it now started appearing in summer-early fall 2011, after her sessions with rick and after radio happened (because she recorded it tight after video games started playing on the radio), where she had a clear vision of sound and concept started combining songs this way, but even then, the most interesting thing is that hundred dollar bill stayed on the album as long as december 2011, so we almost get the song, so basically who knows how exactly the timeline of becoming botn to die was going, it even doesnt need a special kind of a discussion of its timeline, basically all we need is drafts for this album to see what vision she had for the album at what time, but if you would want to narrow it down to one particular number, my list for what i call a strong btd outtake without timeline, just songs that were in consideration for any of its draft at any point, would be:

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White
10. Serial Killer
11. Paradise
12. Us Against the World
13. Paris
14. Are You ready?
15. Last Girl on Earth
16. Hollywood's Dead
17. American Dream (Damn You)
18. What's a Girl to Do
19. Because of You
20. French Restaurant
 

1 hour ago, That Venice Bitch said:

I was under the impression that Kahne's second version was still a demo and that Jayson Michaels' version was indeed the final

yeah to one point it was final but then it was reworked by emile haynie
http://lanaboards.com/topic/17328-lust-for-life-album-recordingwriting-timeline-and-creative-process-discussion/?do=findComment&comment=1634330

[gucciovermybody]

45 minutes ago, lanaismamom said:

hundred dollar bill isnt rumored, and we dont know which version of put the radio on was going to appear on it, we have only one confirmed early tracklist that contained outtakes and this is how it looked like

1. Video Games
2. Blue Jeans
3. Born to Die
4. Put the Radio On
5. Million Dollar Man
6. Diet Mountain Dew
7. Summertime Sadness
8. Carmen
9. Off to the Races
10. This Is What Makes Us Girls
11. Lolita
12. National Anthem

Deluxe Version

     13. Without You

     14. Dark Paradise

     15. Hundred Dollar Bill

and well we have yet another confirmation that Queen of Disaster was going to open BTD at one point, but we dont know that tracklist iteration, that makes 3 safe options for outtakes (and also, the leaked version of queen of disaster is final and the same one that were supposed for that unknown iteration (all we know is that queen of disaster was the track 1, and born to die was the track 2), at least final version from chris braide)
a reach would be to assume Kinda Outta Luck and You Can Be the Boss were also reworked because she performed them later on in 2011, and she expressed her desire to release kinda outta luck alongside diet mountain dew, but her label didnt let her (alhough reworked version of diet mountain dew later appeared on official tracklist)

the other 4 tracks tagged as b-sides - on our way, velvet crowbar, marilyn monroe and tv in black & white can be considered outtakes for this album, BUT i mostlysure they were tagged so because maybe she was wanted emile haynie to rework them, because the 5th track, that contained the same tag was summertime sadness demo, that was later reworked and released officially (midning that the track was initially going to be deluxe track), but in the end she never reworked them (at least for what we know as for now), so they cant be really considered outtale for the album we've got, but if you count them (that will not be a mistake), we have these tracks

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White

then, we have those 3 tracks, serial killer, us against the world and paradise performed live, i want to say she really liked us against the world due to it being downloaded at some time alongside other songs like carmen diet mountain dew off to the races etc, but i dont think it was ever in cosnideration for a rework for any project atfter 2010, and out of the three, i would consider serila killer to be included on btd too, i feel it had always belonged to this album and the sound that emile haynie did for it

the thing about the first album (that will later become btd) is that it had entirely different sound until she didnt meet emile haynie in march 2011, and she herself once said, this album has always been more of a mixtape type thing, and songs were being tied purely based on vibe and themes, its like most of her 2010 stuff had that gansgter wildwestern thing to it, songs like velvet crowbar, kinda outta luck, you can be the boss, driving in cars with boys, live or die, she's not me, off to the races OG  version, hey lolita hey, i want it all and similar, it could easily be tied within one project, and i think this was the sound she was stick around for up until she didnt meet emile haynie, and after that, i think she finally found the vision fot all of that and reworked the album with him (tho in one interview from recent times she mentioned she didnt really want him to be a main producer afaik?) and from that point it had that classic sound to it, but what was befor that, was, maybe, approximately, the same pool of songs (national anthem, off to the races, diet mountain dew and the rest), but tied with another theme and sound (we know there are many working titles of this album (G.B.A, The Best of Lana Del Rey, The Revenge of Lana Del Rey, The World is Ours, Do U Luv Me Yet?), and i believe one of them is definitely from these pre-emile haynie times), and we as well have the imagination of how this album looked like, because we have this sampler that was sent to the guardian, and i think these songs were in consideration for a pre-emile haynie itaraion of an album, this is the sampler from may 2011
 

1. National Anthem (Nexus/Justin Parker; Demo 1)
2. Born to Die (Emile Haynie; Demo 2)
3. Live or Die (Jaz Rogers)
4. Hey Lolita Hey (Liam Howe; Demo 1)
5. Million Dollar Man (Chris Braide; Demo)
6. Video Games (Justin Parker/Robopop; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)
7. Paris (Guy Chambers/Liam Howe)
8. Puppy Love (Justin Parker)
9. Driving in Cars With Boys (Nexus; 2011 Version)
10. This is What Makes Us Girls (Tim Larcombe; Demo 1)
11. Hundred Dollar Bill (Jayson Michael)
12. Are You Ready? (Eg White)
13. Diet Mountain Dew (Alexis Smith/Crispin Hunt/Mike Daly; Demo 3)
14. You Can Be The Boss (Alexis Smith)
15. Kinda Outta Luck (Alexis Smith)
16. Carmen (Justin Parker; Demo)
17. Put the Radio On (Biff Stannard)
18. Blue Jeans (Emile Haynie; Unknown Version, supposedly Unmastered Version)

it contains already some demo recordings from emile haynie, but despite done by him, the sound different from the final album, and all the other songs that were sent, are still demo recordings from 2009-2010 times, that had that gangster sound (but paris and oooh baby has always been too random for this sampler for me?), u can see it has songs that were later reworked by emile, but some werent, that makes it clear that this album was always about vibes mainly, but outtakes from sampler cant be considered as outtakes for btd final because it was still being differnet project in sound, but u can count them too as potential tracks that were going to be reworked by emile, since some of them survived all these constant changes in 2010

and i believe the born to die as we know it now started appearing in summer-early fall 2011, after her sessions with rick and after radio happened (because she recorded it tight after video games started playing on the radio), where she had a clear vision of sound and concept started combining songs this way, but even then, the most interesting thing is that hundred dollar bill stayed on the album as long as december 2011, so we almost get the song, so basically who knows how exactly the timeline of becoming botn to die was going, it even doesnt need a special kind of a discussion of its timeline, basically all we need is drafts for this album to see what vision she had for the album at what time, but if you would want to narrow it down to one particular number, my list for what i call a strong btd outtake without timeline, just songs that were in consideration for any of its draft at any point, would be:

1. Hundred Dollar Bill
2. Put the Radio On
3. Queen of Disaster
4. Kinda Outta Luck
5. You Can Be the Boss
6. Velvet Crowbar
7. Marilyn Monroe
8. On Our Way
9. TV in Black & White
10. Serial Killer
11. Paradise
12. Us Against the World
13. Paris
14. Are You ready?
15. Last Girl on Earth
16. Hollywood's Dead
17. American Dream (Damn You)
18. What's a Girl to Do
19. Because of You
20. French Restaurant
 

yeah to one point it was final but then it was reworked by emile haynie
http://lanaboards.com/topic/17328-lust-for-life-album-recordingwriting-timeline-and-creative-process-discussion/?do=findComment&comment=1634330

omg, about the hdb and ptro i meant (and thought) emile haynie versions are rumoured, ik they are btd outtakes cause of that sampler.

and ty for this message cuz btd timeline is just so confusing to me, but this helped me understand better of it

 

[Waimea Bay]

On my spotify several of Lana's singles aren't showing up in her discography like all the btd ones and if I do manage to find them in a playlist it plays the paradise edition version instead of the single version is there a way to fix this 

[Chemtrail]

Potentially stupid question but idk how it works... when a song leaks and the file is bigger than the OG file that eventually leaks does it just mean someone upscaled it? Deleting files to replace them w the new leaks but kinda nervous to delete some

[gucciovermybody]

do we have any evidence of a studio version song by the rich whores? i just love that rehearsal i would love a song with those guitars and drums

[lanaismamom]

3 minutes ago, ulttraviolenncee said:

do we have any evidence of a studio version song by the rich whores? i just love that rehearsal i would love a song with those guitars and drums

we don’t have such evidence 

[gucciovermybody]

6 minutes ago, lanaismamom said:

we don’t have such evidence 

ill kms

[Ethel Cain]

 has anyone ever seen this cover?

 

just found these too

Spoiler

 

[Ethel Cain]

8 minutes ago, Break Me Down said:

 has anyone ever seen this cover?

 

just found these too

  Reveal hidden contents

 

i just found out that if you go to a “written by” playlist on spotify and search for the people that wrote lana’s songs with music videos, the cover will be a still from the music video, so weird. and its like that for every artist too

[Waimea Bay]

1 hour ago, Break Me Down said:

i just found out that if you go to a “written by” playlist on spotify and search for the people that wrote lana’s songs with music videos, the cover will be a still from the music video, so weird. and its like that for every artist too

I'm pretty sure spotify is adding the ability to play music videos like Apple music is so I think that's what this is

[Yameena Khatri]

Has Lana ever mentioned about Jeff Buckley? 

[Dark Angel]

5 minutes ago, Yameena Khatri said:

Has Lana ever mentioned about Jeff Buckley? 

 

yes, i remember her specifically mentioning him in a 2017 interview, i believe she said dream brother was one of her favorite songs, also, jeff buckley used to be in a band called gods and monsters...

 

and... her ex-boyfriend reeve carney looks a lot like him

 

[longtimeman]

48 minutes ago, Yameena Khatri said:

Has Lana ever mentioned about Jeff Buckley? 

There's this terrible article - I couldn't find the full interview, but this is from around the time of BTD's release.

https://www.ellecanada.com/culture/music/lana-del-ray-would-die-to-buckley-s-music

Quote

Lana Del Ray wants to die to Jeff Buckley’s music.
The ‘Born To Die’ singer says the late musician’s songs – which include ‘Hallelujah’ – would be the perfect soundtrack for when she leaves this Earth.
She said: ”I’d probably die to Jeff Buckley, I guess there probably wouldn’t be any other way. Good music.

 

[takemybreath]

1 hour ago, Yameena Khatri said:

Has Lana ever mentioned about Jeff Buckley? 

 

25 minutes ago, longtimeman said:

There's this terrible article - I couldn't find the full interview, but this is from around the time of BTD's release.

https://www.ellecanada.com/culture/music/lana-del-ray-would-die-to-buckley-s-music

 

 

[Yameena Khatri]

13 hours ago, takemybreath said:

 

 

I see where the flavour comes from. I'm not too into Jeff but I can see the influence. Could Other Woman possibly be a cover of his version instead of Nina's? 

[duemyeu]

On 11/19/2012 at 11:24 AM, Monicker said:

“Cuộc phỏng vấn nào mà Lana đề cập đến việc là một fan hâm mộ của David Lynch?”

In the West Coast MV, the guitar sound at 1:13 sounds like a twin peak song

 

[duemyeu]

14 hours ago, takemybreath said:

 

 

Please show me how to embed Youtube videos. Thanks

[Waimea Bay]

Is this true

https://imgur.com/a/m0QyVjJ