PinUpGaloreLana Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 We're pumped, we're ready, now we just have to wait more 3 Quote
Valentino Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I only speak about offensive appropriation if I have the knowledge and some sort of extensive exposure (worded kinda oddly) to the culture. (Or y'know, I'm a part of it). Googling information and lacking some sort of gateway to the culture, like extensive exposure, doesn't really suffice. I don't know anything about Dia de los Muertos. I have never been exposed to it in person. I've never even met a Mexican person in my life! If it does engage in offensive appropriation, I hope that there's someone on the forum (ideally, a part of the culture ) that can explain the significance to it and why it is offensive. Conversely, I would say that I also hope there's someone on the forum of the culture that can explain why it ISN'T offensive, but I'm sure we'll have that base covered. Some Mexicans say Dia de los Muertos is a super sacred holiday only Mexicans can participate in and anyone else taking part in it or using any of its symbols is appropriating it. Others say that it's open to everyone and that as long as the symbols are treated respectfully (you can paint a sugar skull on your face but don't urinate on one) it doesn't matter. With things like this, it's rarely as clear-cut as people seem to think it is. And without seeing Tropico in advance, we have no idea how she will deal with the matter. If Ride is any indication, she'll do something kinda thoughtless (I still cringe seeing the headdress, omg lana why that's like wearing a purple heart as fashion) but common among Americans. So... we'll see So happy this is finally coming out. And I pray it'll be in theaters so I can drag my friends to see it. 2 Quote
Divisive Princess Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 If you go to her real YouTube page, the only comment it shows that she posted on the Tropico was the 'so do i' one, so I'm not really trusting the 2 weeks (also it shows her comment on Barrie's video which means that it's obviously updated, etc) but I'm hopin for the best but expectin the worst tbh 1 Quote
Viva Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Some Mexicans say Dia de los Muertos is a super sacred holiday only Mexicans can participate in and anyone else taking part in it or using any of its symbols is appropriating it. Others say that it's open to everyone and that as long as the symbols are treated respectfully (you can paint a sugar skull on your face but don't urinate on one) it doesn't matter. With things like this, it's rarely as clear-cut as people seem to think it is. And without seeing Tropico in advance, we have no idea how she will deal with the matter. If Ride is any indication, she'll do something kinda thoughtless (I still cringe seeing the headdress, omg lana why that's like wearing a purple heart as fashion) but common among Americans. So... we'll see So happy this is finally coming out. And I pray it'll be in theaters so I can drag my friends to see it. Several countries celebrate it since initially was a christian celebration. In Brazil we also celebrate Dia de Los Muertos (Dia dos Finados for us) it's november 2th. .In my country, like in Mexico, is a national holiday and not even museums open in respect of the dead. It's a party at the cemeteries (sarcastic giggles). For the Kardecists, spiritualists, is usually celebrated by the sea you don't need to visit the cemetery because they believe that your body is just flesh and your soul is free when you are dead and you will reeincarnate to evolve your spirit. Anyway its not just a Mexican holiday many countries celebrate it in South America. I know that Argentina, Chile and Uruguay also have Dia de Los Muertos. Each country has their own traditions and personal symbols to represent it but I just cant see what Lana would be appropriating of or why mention Dia de Los Muertos in her movie would be a problem even more why would be a offense. 0 Quote
Rebel Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 If you go to her real YouTube page, the only comment it shows that she posted on the Tropico was the 'so do i' one, so I'm not really trusting the 2 weeks (also it shows her comment on Barrie's video which means that it's obviously updated, etc) but I'm hopin for the best but expectin the worst tbh I saw it with my own eyes before she removed it. 2 Quote
Hello Heaven Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 FINALLY a trailer, this seems promising 0 Quote
Sitar Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 While I'd love for "Diamond Ring" produced by David Kahne to be a real thing, I sincerely hope nobody's dicking us around posing like that. I fucking hate that kind of shit. @ tell us 1 Quote
Rebel Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I'm taking bets on it NOT coming out in 2 weeks. She deleted that comment, right? 0 Quote
NikodemDeVault Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md21lRQTdMc Movieclips Trailers 0 Quote
lola Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md21lRQTdMc Movieclips Trailers + the comments 2 Quote Caesar said he’d fall in love with me if I was older. I own all of Mexico and I got my own roller-coaster.
Leo Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I'm taking bets on it NOT coming out in 2 weeks. She deleted that comment, right? Nope, just checked and it's still there. As is "it's coming you little bitch" 1 Quote
leaked_version Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Ok, so there will be more trailers? 0 Quote
sweetie Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 @ tell us did you believe me when I said it was me? 1 Quote
laiadelrey Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 i still have no idea what tropico is gonna be about lmao Well there's an account on twitter that has evryone fricked out and says things like she's gonna be called Amelia and it's gonna be 33mn long and stuff. 0 Quote
LittleFool Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Well there's an account on twitter that has evryone fricked out and says things like she's gonna be called Amelia and it's gonna be 33mn long and stuff. What account? And I really did stop and think about the content of Tropico for a moment. Extraterrestrials Cholas Strip Clubs Mary Jesus Marilyn John Elvis Garden of Eden You can call it campy and cheesy, but I find it more confusing. Excited to see where this goes.... 0 Quote
Coney Island King Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Even if it's not out in 2 weeks, i'm sure it will be out soon after that period anyway, now with a trailer we KNOW it's still happening, i really can't imagine it not being release by mid December at the latest. 0 Quote
rdp Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Well there's an account on twitter that has evryone fricked out and says things like she's gonna be called Amelia and it's gonna be 33mn long and stuff. I thought it was certain that Shaun and her are playing Adam and Eve? I mean the promo pictures are pretty clear in that regard. 1 Quote
PinUpGaloreLana Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I thought it was certain that Shaun and her are playing Adam and Eve? I mean the promo pictures are pretty clear in that regard. Maybe she is Eve and Amelia is her stripper name I dont even think what they're saying about the Amelia thing is true tbh just stabbing in the dark 3 Quote
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