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Tempted to rename this thread "Textual Appropriation".

 

Wouldn't be correct.

Elvis: "In blue suede shoes, but it was a cover for all of the trouble..." (Hollywood's Dead)

 

btw I don't think I'm on fire is that of an intertextuality, I mean, it's not like Bruce invented it, it's a common phrase... also bad to the bone is a popular expression, so to say it's from Thorogood's song is somewhat far-fetched, idk

 

Good point. I did take into consideration, that 'bad to the bone' easily could've been a popular idiom before Thorogood's song. I googled it, but couldn't quite determine if that was the case or not, but I guess you're right.

 

As for 'I'm on fire' I do think it's safe to say that Lana is heavily inspired by Springsteen and thus is referencing him (intentionally or not). She mentions him in both songs and interviews and listens to him every single day. The song "I'm on Fire" by Springsteen also mentions a "bad desire"... Which sounds like a familiarity in the Lana universe (...burning desire). If you google "I'm on fire" all you get are hits relating to the Springsteen song and if you google "I'm on fire expression" that's still the case. I'm not saying that it's not a popular expression (well, define popular) but I am sticking to my guns on this one x

This is also a quote from one of her favourite movies, True Romance! Clarence says it in like the couple of minutes!

 

Great post @!!! 

 

Thank you

Wasn't she going to work with Lou Reed for Brooklyn Baby? Considering he died before the collaboration, and that was late October, BBY could be from around that time, much later than April... just a thought

 

She had already written the track at that point.

i don't really think that lizzy and lana look that different if you consider how different lana looked during the beginning of the born to die era, the paradise era and nowadays.

But back to the "transition" from lizzy to lana. the biggest differences i've noticed were her lips, her hair and the way she styled it and completely different make-up like she changed the way she used to have her eyebrows, she used those long fake-lashes and this whole cat-eye thing. She also used to be very thin at the beginning of the btd era which made her face look very slim and her jaw more defined.

 

She's quite skinny here... And wearing fake lashes. Still looks heaps different. Maybe she just got a nose job. Or maybe I need to realize the difference hair color makes.

I think she dd lip fillers (like Gaga). Her lips aren't nearly as big anymore. I can attribute her hair color/length and style to make her look different too. Long hair brunette /high fashion/ Lana doesn't seem to resemble drug addict thrift store bleached blonde Lizzy.

 

Yeah, I dunno. Lipfillers are a definite, but I don't feel like a change of hair color and some collagen was all it took. The change seems far greater to me. "*I'll keep dancing nerding on my own*

I also hear Le Monet.

 

"Lemonade" is so out of place with the lyrical context, seriousness, and tone of the song. We all know Lana is good for meaningless filler lyrics, but this is not a playful bop where "crying tears of gold like lemonade" would work.

 

Le Monet is not pronounced that way... For her to pronounce it the way she does in the song, it would have to be written as les Monets (plural) and that makes even less sense. She sings "lemonade."

Also, don't forget about this...

 

 

I saw a documentary on Netflix last night (go me) called Crazy Love... In the first few minutes a woman is saying "I was terrified to death... And I was already dead."

I'm sure Lana must've seen it, I immediately thought of her.

she did mess it up because its meant to be Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, the drug LSD

 

I'm sure she knows the original quote and its meaning but just wants to reference it. (It's another discussion, but John was very adamant that it was a coincidence, crediting Sean with the quote based on a drawing he made.)

 

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Gosh, there are so many 

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Something I feel is taboo on this forum is the subject of her (possible) plastic surgery. I'm really interested in picking her looks and image apart (to quote you @@toshi) - coming from a place of admiration and adoration, of course. I don't think it's extremely weird or wrong to be interested in what Lana has done to create herself/her image. She's one of the most beautiful human beings I ever saw and her looks do play an active part in the whole package that is her, so to speak... Her lyrics often describe her as pretty, beautiful etc - wouldn't fit at all if she wasn't. Many of her lyrics fit the idea of a beautiful woman. Imagine if Susan Boyle sang "I Fucked My Way up to the Top" ...or "Cola"?? Anyway, this is just to justify going superficial on her arse   And of course, quite a few aren't interested in this aspect of her, but I, for one, am - and I can't even count the many times I have googled "lana del rey plastic surgery/extensions" etc.

 

I just can't figure out what she did after getting the lip injections when she was still Lizzy. I really think she had more procedures done. She disappeared for (I'm not sure how long) - like a year? Came out on the other side and was LANA. But it wasn't just the lips that were different. She most likely had a nose job, but that was earlier? Hmmm.. Any other plastic surgery nerds out there?

in terms of sheer symmetry and raw sexual magnetism i would say henry cavill 

 

 

 

brb

 

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Yay  Have a great day (night, depending on where you are)   

 

 

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"Man who makes a beast out of himself got nothing to lose" - Tired of Singing The Blues

 

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Lanakaiiiiiii when is your post coming?? So excited for it! @@Lanakai 

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“Live fast, die young and have a good-looking corpse!”

 

"The first quote has been slightly rearranged over the years. It comes from a 1949 movie called Knock on Any Door, starring Humphrey Bogart as a liberal-minded lawyer trying to save a young hoodlum accused of murder. The hoodlum, Pretty Boy Romano, was played by John Derek who was, indeed, one of the best- looking actors who ever stood before a camera. The exact phrase, as he said it in the movie, was: “I wanna live fast, die young and leave a beautiful corpse.”

http://www.thetimes.co.za/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=718241

Oops no, you're right - conflicting information out there 

I was born to live fast, die young

Leave a beautiful corpse

 

Live fast, die young and have a good-looking corpse! - John Derek

 

“Live fast, die young and have a good-looking corpse!”

 

"The first quote has been slightly rearranged over the years. It comes from a 1949 movie called Knock on Any Door, starring Humphrey Bogart as a liberal-minded lawyer trying to save a young hoodlum accused of murder. The hoodlum, Pretty Boy Romano, was played by John Derek who was, indeed, one of the best- looking actors who ever stood before a camera. The exact phrase, as he said it in the movie, was: “I wanna live fast, die young and leave a beautiful corpse.”

http://www.thetimes.co.za/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=718241

Ha! You should! 

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Aren't these just literary references, though? I was under the impression intertextuality was something else...

 

Intertextuality is the shaping of a text's meaning by another text. Intertextual figures include: allusion, quotation, calque, plagiarism, translation, pastiche and parody.^[1][2][3] An example of intertextuality is an author’s borrowing and transformation of a prior text or to a reader’s referencing of one text in reading another.

 

This is just from wikipedia. 

 

Oh yeah, that's totally right - like in Angels Forever she sings "paradise is a hell-coloured flame sky" and Nabokov writes: "A paradise whose skies were the color of hell-flames - but still a paradise."

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