GeminiLanaFan

Didn't she describe the «Norman's little sister» thing in January, when she was still with Sean? So, I read that Let Me Love You Like a Woman and WHF will probably have a NFR feeling to them, but maybe not for the songs she worked later on?

I wonder if the Grammy « regret » not giving AOTY to NFR (probably not, but still), with the whole pandemic situation happening at the moment. Fuck It I love You and The Greatest kinda feel prophetic in a way: FIILY expresses how our modern way of living wanted more and that we were going to hit a wall, and TG expresses the loss of things passed, of the good things we used to have and that are now on hold. Not that I dislike Billie’s album, but in these times, NFR sure seems more profound than her record.

Hahaha! I love folksy Lana, but I think we got the most of it on NFR.I even was surprised that there was that much production on so many tracks of NFR based on the snippets we had hear before.

Probably. She did the same, with the NFR pre-era. Only this time around, we still have NFR to listen to (I still love that album almost a year after its release) and we already have solid info about COCC.

I honestly don’t get what was the hype about the whole Larina thing or the whole « upsetting thing » about Marina unfollowing her. Sure, their early records have complementary themes, sure they were cute together, but I really don’t care who she hangs out with. I’d be curious to « spy » on her when she hangs out with Father John Misty, to hear what they have to say about anything, but it’s a distant curiosity. I never got that curiosity with Larina, nor do I get it with her « LA mom » friends like you like to call them.

Can't argue with that. She is uneven from one venue to the other. Sometimes, she's on top and other nights, not so much. I know she considers herself more of an «album singer» rather than a «live singer», but still. To her defense, doing festival tours sure doesn't help have the best volume to her voice, when these things are an orgy of singers or groups going one after the other with little to no time for audio adjustments that weren't predetermined in rehearsals.

I love the demos to most of the songs from LFL, but if the album had sounded like that, nobody except us would have listened to it (and we know that Interscope became very involved with LFL after the poor numbers of HM). It would have been a super airy project, but probably one lacking something.

Don't forget the singles' rating!!! We must have done that ten times each!! Oh and «scraphobia» («I'm sure she scrapped the whole album and is suicidal» «If she scrapped Cinnamon, I will kill the bich!») Awww the good times Amen, preach!!!!! I love LFL. True, it's not her best, but it came out at the right time for me, so of course I 'm fond of it.

The cover is a collage of a couple of songs, I guess: the water-boat theme of Mariners, the green lime of FIILY, LA is burning in The Greatest, the narcissist guy on NFR, the painted sky of NFR as well. The whole album screams «water» to it: emotional, ups and downs like waves, introspective. COCC sure has a «air feeling» to it, although I hope we do get the continuity «water feeling» to some tracks, or even the fire (only a theory of mine, where I can summarize all of her albums with one or two elements)

Kinda. I check the facts when she says something and exact dates and snippets are almost certain indicators of that thing happening when it’s supposed to. But other than those, I don’t get my hopes too high.

She truly is ADHD and when she talks about what the record sounds like, it's the songs she is working at the moment. It's never totally false, but clearly not that precise either lol.

I’m torn when I see that tracklist: “Yes! Want all of that! But I hope we didn’t already guess like 9 songs out of ??? already...”

Who knows? Not sure there’ll be a single but if so, maybe end of June or July? I wonder if there’ll be any videos for this era.

True. Her Jesse R collab (“I want you to play with me”) could be the sexy / slutty anthem we’ve been waiting for. I don’t expect it on her album though. But there’ll probably be a “sexy song” on COCC.

I kinda hope Jack and Lana «continue» the soar they were on when finishing NFR (FIILY being the last song and one that is «heavier» in production) and keep it going... I love NFR, but its «second half» or «sister record» could be a little crazier production-wise.

I do. HM is in my top 3 and I am one of the few that really like LFL (probably because I connected to it when it came out). LFL really is a summer pop-ish record, super diverse. It's perfect when my expectations of having the «summer of my life» have come and gone, and when I realize my life in July or August is pretty much the same as in the other seasons.

Well nothing confirmed but strong possibility, with a 5 min+ voice memo. But it could turn into nothing, not all of her notes or voice memos turn into songs or poems.

If there is one, end of June or early July? But who knows with her.

A couple of us, on the other thread, think that maybe the audio book will contain the “best of” both written books. And maybe it will be out after COCC? Is she done with her second book? So many questions...

Or a spoken album made of the best poems from the two other books?!?

HahaUsually, the Grammy end their submission process on Sept 1. I don’t know if she could even submit COCC this year or if they will postpone the date because of the COVID situation. Either way, she probably won’t win. Maybe for spoken word though.

I’ll take that strange intro to NFR’s.Still not over that roll out of a pseudo pre-era

Not very long. Pretty much the same day or the day before a single.When she announces the tracklist the other songs get registered or recognized by Shazam.

I see it differently : BTD through LFL is the first cycle, with the last song wanting to cross the threshold ... NFR begins the new cycle. Plus there are no cars on that cover, compared to the other four. So, COCC (lollll) should be the «UV» of this cycle, though we have a short period between NFR and COCC like UV and HM had.

Red-orange poppies were the flower for NFR based on the merchandizing. But it's nowhere referenced on the album.