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I agree with everyone about the wonderful company she keeps on this "flop" list. As to whether or not Tropico makes sense as a career move, whether you like the video or not, it's hard to believe Tropico will hurt her relative to her accomplished grammy nominations or her oscar consideration (keeping fingers crossed). The short film seems well timed for those and hopefully it will help.

Reminds me of something I saw on Tumblr the other day:

 

YES I SAW THAT ON TUMBLR TOO that's what I thinking of

i looove lorde she's my favorite next to lana, i have all her released music. i think my favorite is bravado "i've been fighting off every little thing that i thought was out to get me down, to trip me up and laugh at me"

some of her songs have weird lyrics tbh but i don't care she's great

jfk - lana

i think, visually, it's beautiful (excluding a lot of the gods and monsters part, some of that was a little too much for me). most of it is undeniably very pretty. how great the rest of it is is arguable. i can see how a lot of people wouldn't enjoy it. tropico does not fit everyone's taste -- then again, neither does lana's music. i liked the poetry she recited, although i didn't know the authors and stuff while watching it but i just looked up the poems and i plan on watching tropico again later now that i have more insight. i think it was a beautiful and meaningful film although there are some things i would have done differently, such as some of the g&m scenes and i wish there had been more dialogue. but overall i definitely think lana achieved her goal.

I just hope she doesnt have features on the next album. I'm sorry but I didnt like Summer Wine. I hope the next album is purely Lana and a tap more upbeat than Paradise.

yea i didn't like summer wine either, i'm not a huge fan of features in general, i rarely ever like them. i remember the first time i heard summer wine, i was really liking it then barrie came on and i immediately shut it off. nothing against him -- i just don't like features. i listened to it again afterwards but i don't think i even finished the whole thing, just not for me

WTF is this? March 18th?. Reliable source?

 

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/12/27/2014-music-preview-best-of-the-rest

the website looks reliable because it looks like any other website but i don't think it is. it comes off as trustworthy but we don't really have a reason to believe it. it's just a list, there's no sources or anything, just a list of albums. when she announced UV at the tropico premiere, it sounded like we were going to get it pretty quickly, but then again tropico itself took quite a while, to say at the least. however, a short film is much different than an album, so we could easily not have to wait as long for UV as we did for tropico. tropico was obviously her first film and UV is obviously not her first album -- although we can't totally rule out a long wait, you never know. it's possible we could get the album as early as march but i don't think that article makes it safe to say so for sure. we can almost entirely disregard it because of the length of the list under march 18, it's really not realistic. the website provides no sources or proof that any of those release dates for any of those albums are confirmed. i guess we can keep that date in the back of our minds but we shouldn't go around saying we know when the album's releasing. maybe we should hold onto it, wait till january, and see if the albums listed under january 7 and 14 release on those days. 

I think they got confused halfway through and thought they should list the best things of 2013. I mean ARTPOP is #1 so what else could it be

exactly. if the biggest "flop" is topping the charts then the second biggest is an accomplishment 

this was only posted last night and i'm already super excited for next week's! don't know if i can wait ahh

if this list were based on just the outfits they're wearing in those pictures, lana deserves first place, hands down. that dress is SO stunning. i don't think anybody else looks good except taylor (who i do NOT like but i'm not gonna pretend that dress isn't pretty). also i love selena sooo much and i do think she deserves a place on this list but not with that particular dress. they could have used a better example. 

as for rihanna and beyonce -- i really like rihanna as a person but i don't listen to her. and her clothes, especially the outfit in that picture... no words

and i just don't follow beyonce. i don't listen to any of her songs and i know like nothing about her. other outfits of hers don't come to mind but if they're all like that one, she shouldn't be on the list imo

anybody have any idea if there's a chance of touring in the US?

I like this song of the week idea! So cool to discuss some great songs individually.

I think OOW has a great intro and outro, her tone in the last moments, when she says: "You told me not to worry, because you're the boss" just sounds so fragile and regretful, as if she really messed something up. That part reminds me of Your Band Is All The Rage, because she does that in that song too, when she goes like: I love youuu.....it's so beautiful and sad at the same time.

 

I once listened to this while on the bus and it was raining outside and it was all so sad and calm a true sadcore moment.

This is one of her songs which is great for setting a calm mood, like Yayo or Oh Say Can You See, and Black Beauty

this is making me rethink my previous comment -- i don't think the relationship in this song is as happy and stable as i thought before. i kind of overlooked the whole "you're the boss" thing. it really does sound regretful when she says it at the end. if it weren't for that one line, this song would seem more like a carefree and happy love song. the way she sings "because you're the boss" at the very end makes me feel like it's almost a cry for help, like everyone thinks they're so happy and in love but secretly she wants out. i could be overthinking it like maybe it is just a line but that's what i was kind of getting from it after listening again.

Tropico suffered due to delays and when there's delays, people assume it's to build hype.  Especially at the major label level.  Seems like it just got over-hyped, but Lana had to keep mentioning it to remind us that it was coming.  Seemed out of her control and she suffered for it.

 

Tropico would have been great as a giant teaser to Paradise.  I don't expect a video for everything off UV, but I think it'd be really cool to have a short film featuring a few songs off of it.  It would build excitement and also satisfy any artistic indulgence.  Also the visual element to any music I think always sways people positively that would be on the fence about a song.  But that won't happen,  too little time I think.

i didn't think about that -- it would be cool to use a film like this as a teaser for an upcoming album. i would love to hear some songs that will definitely make it on to UV. at the same time, i really do like the idea of using tropico to visually close her chapter. i love the idea of opening a new chapter of her career using a film because then we would get new songs, but at the same time using it as closure feels more right to me -- this is just my personal preference though. the teaser idea would probably get more views.

i can't even take this seriously, seeing as the #1 "flop" was artpop, which numbers can easily prove was successful. i don't think lana intended to create some incredibly successful and world famous piece -- i think she succeeded in what she was trying to do. tropico is clearly not supposed to be a film that everybody will enjoy, you either love it or you don't. also, i personally liked the songs she used. just because they aren't the newest, doesn't mean they don't fit the film. i think all her fans can at least appreciate what she was trying to do with tropico even if they didn't particularly enjoy watching it (i did, though). just like lana's music, tropico is a piece of art that will not be enjoyed by everybody, but should be respected by everybody. tropico was by no means a "flop." lana's happy with it and so am i. 

i definitely thought of never let me go when i listened to this song but this one does seem happier. i feel like this song is about a more stable relationship where they're having fun and it's light and happy whereas nlmg deals with a less stable relationship where she needs confirmation that he'll stay with her. oow seems more like they were in a rougher place before but now they're good and happy, compared to nlmg where she's worried things could be going downhill. but i love the instrumental of both songs a lot

if black beauty doesn't make it onto ultraviolence i don't know what i'll do. i like how much focus is on the words because of the lack of lyrics - the first song similar to this that comes to my mind is kill kill. and her voice in the song is just oh my god 

i do hope there are more upbeat tracks on the album though 

i love lorde but i'm rooting for lana all the way!