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3 minutes ago, uvbabe said:

Remember when she uploaded that video singing Cherry Blossom back in like, I don't know, was it Honeymoon era? Or before? I wanted that song so bad. So so bad. Can't believe we're officially getting it! What I love so much about Lana is that she makes you wait a long time but she always delivers at last. We're learning lots about patience here! 

Dude SAME 

She introduced it as a lullaby that she had written "years ago". So it was probably even written long before Honeymoon era but she did post the snippet then. And that "What you don't tell no one // You can tell me" is such a beautiful lullaby lyric 

I read somewhere that this version of Dealer does not have final mixing finished + that the feature may be taken off the track. Apparently someone heard a snippet where it was Lana singing the verses. Can anyone confirm that this exists??

Dude. this song is FIRE. And the fact that he sings the verses works perfectly for me— it's almost like he's playing her dealer or smth

I lowkey think y’all are crazy— this is her best body of work for me, by far. Such an odd but fantastic album. She’s ACTUALLY giving the Joni teas that Lana claims to be giving. I think she’s a ridiculously strong songwriter; the only reason people are saying the songs “sound the same” is because she uses a quiet vocal on every one.

Lana should hear this and take note of what Jack can do with instrumentation, because this album’s production is stellar. 

The level of delusion to think there’s a double album release coming…. RIP

6 minutes ago, Mike Dean is a god said:

i would like some heroin to get through this insufferable discourse. yes implying that is bad, but terrence didn't. lana is open about weed and it's not a substance she struggled with so kindly touch grass. (geddit?)

Anyway, I feel like the three songs are puzzle pieces for the sonic soundscape of the album. BB gives me sad gay cowboy vibes to the 10s. WF gives me driving in a corn field after dark dealing with some shit not happy but confident. I think it's western but not country. Americana.

I'm not a hypersensitive stan I just hate the narrative that drug use (of any kind) inherently makes artists' music better. Wouldn't have reacted that way had the word "dope" not been used either, but I guess that's what ppl who don't smoke a lot of pot call it 

4 minutes ago, Terrence Loves Me said:

she was addicted to weed?

She has a history of drug abuse and you're saying you want her on "dope"— weed is a legal drug in her home state so I don't know why you'd refer to it by that name. I thought you wanted her back on harder shit, as "dope" implies.

Either way, implying an artist needs substances (that theyve expressed have been unhealthy for them) to make good music is....weird, love 

21 minutes ago, Terrence Loves Me said:

Lana is a chameleon so she is heavily influenced by the behavior of those around her, mike dean is wild, interactive and fun. 

All i'm sayin is... she better get her hands on that dope or ELSE 

#bringbacklizzygrant

Wishing an ex-addict would relapse on drugs/alcohol in the guise of "wanting better art" is super gross

Why would she need a stimulant to make good music?

Manifesting Roses Bloom For You as track 3 

2 minutes ago, triangles19 said:

This album sounds more musically complex than I Talk To Jesus, I love this song but it would sounds off to me into it.

It would need a production rework for sure but the lyrics are thematically relevant and it has a strong enough melody. It just comes from me wishing there was one more uptempo track (a la TJF and DBJAG) around the end of the record to break up the BUS/DTWD/For Free stretch

I really wish she'd put "I Talk To Jesus" on this record. Would've fit so beautifully right before or after Breaking Up Slowly, as sort of a side B/part 2 for Tulsa Jesus Freak.

I'm predicting a February 2022 release 

UGH I hope she sits pretty at that Metacritic 85 but I fear it will drop to the 81-83 range again.

2 minutes ago, urgirl said:

girl im sorry but my comment was 100% addressing ur post. idk why ur personally pressed I called NFR normie fucking Rockwell but im sorry and I won't quote u again 

i'm not pressed at all. i actually always find it funny when people start hating on lana's prior record as soon as she releases a new one— it literally happens every time with every album. forgive me for expecting people to notice the pattern and factor their recency bias 

Just now, urgirl said:

its not what I got from your comment its my opinion.gif

well then ig you can keep h8ing on NFR while it sits pretty as the critics' darling 

i don't know why you said it in response to me tho bc it's unrelated— i said in my post that i think COCC is just as good, and i was lamenting how it wouldn't get the same praise.

Just now, urgirl said:

 

idgaf if the locals dont love it. they can keep Normie Fucking Rockwell

??? How is that what you get from my comment? NFR is fucking legendary, certainly far from "normie" shit. They're both far better than most of the other alt/pop releases over the past few years. You can like two albums at once, ma'am. 

I honestly think this album is just as good as NFR, it's just far more subtle and personal. It just sucks the locals won't be supporting it the same way they did for NFR (especially because of tracks like Venice B*tch and Cinnamon Girl). I think a lot of people don't have the kind of patience needed for an album like COCC. 

10 minutes ago, War In My Mind said:

so question for the culture

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does she say insta POTS or insta THOTS?

 

Maybe it's "insta thoughts" referring to her posts on instagram (either about poetry.....or even the OG question for the culture, LMAO)

Manifesting an 8.4 BNM from Pitchfork 

4 minutes ago, recklessdaughter said:

I actually meant the different vibes of just these specific songs not the albums 

I was still referring to the actual songs as far as your Hejira vs DJRD question goes!  Sorry I go a little overboard whenever Joni's involved

2 minutes ago, recklessdaughter said:

Overall would y’all say Chemtrails has more of this sort of vibe...

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...or this sort of vibe?

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please nothing too specific

Hejira imo, but as a longtime Joni fan, this album actually immediately felt to me like Lana Del Rey's For the Roses. 

Not people trying to re-title this album to some Taylor Swift ass name like "Wanderlust" 

23 minutes ago, Theo said:

Dark but just a game

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Do we have any idea who is the song about? I have the impression that the line "no rose left on the vines" may be some clue. And the recurring  "whatever"s, but this is probably too generic to help. And I assume this person is a man,  because I think that in the beginning she doesn't mean Jack but that guy (that's what he would say to me).

 

EDIT: OK, maybe "he" is Jack, since later "I was a pretty little thing" sounds more like something that a woman would say. But not sure.  

 

1 minute ago, LemonadeHeavens said:

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"downatthemeninmusicbuisnessconference" is honestly addicting, so sweet and catchy 

 

Glad someone finally said it; it's my favorite line of the song for some reason. She was really channeling Joni w/ that delivery